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Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 531	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:49:00 - [1] - Quote I'm seeing a lot of Armour Tanked proto Cal Logis. Silly newbs, Caldari is for shields. Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance ISK Milkshakes for all! (Except the pubbers)
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 145	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:51:00 - [2] - Quote Lol, they're mostly slayer logis running damage mods in all the high slots Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Atiim 5245	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:52:00 - [3] - Quote Tell that to my 600 armor Matari Frame. Why? Because F*ck SCRs Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub [s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1361	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:53:00 - [4] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I'm seeing a lot of Armour Tanked proto Cal Logis. Silly newbs, Caldari is for shields. Same number of low slots as proto Gal Assault and proto Amarr Logi
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR TCD ToXiCaTeD RISE of LEGION 1565	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:54:00 - [5] - Quote sadly, if you give any suit 4 LOWS and 5 HIGHS, people will realize that you can just armor tank the bottom and damage mod the high. even my scout suit can get 700+ armor. seriously, what the **** was CCP thinking when they made a suit with some of the most CPU and PG in the game, the most module slots, 5 hp/s reps, AND 3 equipment slots? did none of that jump out as being OP? Anime > EVERYTHING
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1892	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:35:00 - [6] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I'm seeing a lot of Armour Tanked proto Cal Logis. Silly newbs, Caldari is for shields. Are you sure they weren't dual tanking for the OP Assault Logi? Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1892	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:37:00 - [7] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: sadly, if you give any suit 4 LOWS and 5 HIGHS, people will realize that you can just armor tank the bottom and damage mod the high. even my scout suit can get 700+ armor. seriously, what the **** was CCP thinking when they made a suit with some of the most CPU and PG in the game, the most module slots, 5 hp/s reps, AND 3 equipment slots? did none of that jump out as being OP? Exactly why I hope The "Infantry Re-reoverhaul" changes some lot around in the medium frames. I've heard people say they aren't doing that however. Anybody got the source? Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Patrick57 5719	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:42:00 - [8] - Quote I run my Cal Logi with 500 Shields and 300 Armor. :3 Zatara hates me :(
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 142	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:44:00 - [9] - Quote LOL @ OP As if shield tanking was viable on it's own.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3320	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:48:00 - [10] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I'm seeing a lot of Armour Tanked proto Cal Logis. Silly newbs, Caldari is for shields. I'm not sure. A slayer logi fit can dual tank and fit damage mods to boot. No.

Ku Shala Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 892	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:48:00 - [11] - Quote If you cant see me you can't shoot me.... if only I could aim *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer Scan Attempt Prevented
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2303	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:00:00 - [12] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I run my Cal Logi with 500 Shields and 300 Armor. :3 Same here. its like 502/330 or so (and that's only with 1 in armor upgrades and 3 in armor plates) and proto equipment with a basic rifle. Does pretty well, I can logi support (uplinks, reps, nanos, etc) and still hold my own. I feel like it only works though cause everyone armor tanks and so CR/RR is so widespread (and they have no bonus to shields).
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 538	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:18:00 - [13] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: LOL @ OP As if shield tanking was viable on it's own. Some of arguably the best players in the game run shield as their main tank, and use these suits to great effect in PC battles. Perhaps you are just doing it wrong? Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance ISK Milkshakes for all! (Except the pubbers)
Patrick57 5721	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:22:00 - [14] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: LOL @ OP As if shield tanking was viable on it's own. You probably don't know this, but Knight runs a Shield tanked Minmatar Scout... Zatara hates me :(
Patrick57 5721	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:25:00 - [15] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I run my Cal Logi with 500 Shields and 300 Armor. :3 Same here. its like 502/330 or so (and that's only with 1 in armor upgrades and 3 in armor plates) and proto equipment with a basic rifle. Does pretty well, I can logi support (uplinks, reps, nanos, etc) and still hold my own. I feel like it only works though cause everyone armor tanks and so CR/RR is so widespread (and they have no bonus to shields). I have exactly 506 Shields, 315 Armor, three Proto Equipment, a Proto Combat Rifle, and Core Locus Grenades (Who doesn't need those? Especially when you can't aim like me :D). It's ******* awesome, I even prefer it to my triple Damage Modded Armor stacked Triage Hive Amarr Logi. :3 Zatara hates me :(
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1228	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:27:00 - [16] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: LOL @ OP As if shield tanking was viable on it's own. I know people who don't even place on armor plates who will drop you like a bad habit on the field. Don't underestimate shield tanking. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 818	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:31:00 - [17] - Quote Oh, you just fluxed that Caldari's 672 shield? He's still got more HP than you at 600 Armor. Gg bro. No SP refund=academy stomping FOR DAYYZ Proud owner of 69 'Fleshriver' Nk's. No i don't buy AUR
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 232	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:32:00 - [18] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I run my Cal Logi with 500 Shields and 300 Armor. :3 Same here. its like 502/330 or so (and that's only with 1 in armor upgrades and 3 in armor plates) and proto equipment with a basic rifle. Does pretty well, I can logi support (uplinks, reps, nanos, etc) and still hold my own. I feel like it only works though cause everyone armor tanks and so CR/RR is so widespread (and they have no bonus to shields). I run the Cal logi on my main with 588 shield and 112 armour. I'm hoping the scrambler gets nerfed to ** soon - RR is OP? Proto scrambler can ** me up before I've even spooled - I haven't been OHK'd by one but I got 2 shotted the other day for 1600+ dmg.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 654	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:32:00 - [19] - Quote My basic Caldari Assault suit has 2 complex damage mods, 2 basic plates, and a compact nanohive to heal and repair myself when I am alone. I have 4 levels in Shield Upgrades and only 1 in Armor Upgrades but have about 80 more armor than I do shields. I would need two Complex Shield extenders to have my naturally high base shields beat my low armor base but huge bonus from the plates. Those don't slow me down too much and gives me a nice healthy bonus of life. If I had 3 more highs and 2 more lows, I would probably fit something similar. Two Complex Damage mods with maybe Regulators/Extenders with Armor lows seems better to me than putting in Rechargers in the lows.
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 144	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:09:00 - [20] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Some of arguably the best players in the game run shield as their main tank, and use these suits to great effect in PC battles. Perhaps you are just doing it wrong? They are very few and far between and the best players in the game will still be the best players regardless of what they run. Some people are just better at FPSs than others. That being said shield tanking is more viable now than it was before as more people use CR and RR than SCRs but they're still crap. You're a scrub if you think shield tanking alone is competitive. You obviously haven't run into a good Scrambler Rifle user. Just because you do good in pubs with it means nothing and if you're a min scout wtf are you supposed to tank? armor? A scouts lifeblood isn't his armor or shield anyway, it's his stealth. I have 4 different proto suits and not one of them has a complex shield extender on it.

Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 540	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:22:00 - [21] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: They are very few and far between and the best players in the game will still be the best players regardless of what they run. Some people are just better at FPSs than others. That being said shield tanking is more viable now than it was before as more people use CR and RR than SCRs but they're still crap. You're a scrub if you think shield tanking alone is competitive. You obviously haven't run into a good Scrambler Rifle user. Just because you do good in pubs with it means nothing and if you're a min scout wtf are you supposed to tank? armor? A scouts lifeblood isn't his armor or shield anyway, it's his stealth. I have 4 different proto suits and not one of them has a complex shield extender on it. I've come across players (In PC) that think since they throw all these Armour plates on their suits they'll become unkillable, but really it only makes them an easier kill. Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance ISK Milkshakes for all! (Except the pubbers)
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1900	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:28:00 - [22] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Oh, you just fluxed that Caldari's 672 shield? He's still got more HP than you at 600 Armor. Gg bro. Everything melts armor easier than shield. I notice it every time I'm in a heavy suit. Doesn't help either that my chosen medium suit is the Gal logi. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2303	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:41:00 - [23] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I run my Cal Logi with 500 Shields and 300 Armor. :3 Same here. its like 502/330 or so (and that's only with 1 in armor upgrades and 3 in armor plates) and proto equipment with a basic rifle. Does pretty well, I can logi support (uplinks, reps, nanos, etc) and still hold my own. I feel like it only works though cause everyone armor tanks and so CR/RR is so widespread (and they have no bonus to shields). I run the Cal logi on my main with 588 shield and 112 armour. I'm hoping the scrambler gets nerfed to ** soon - RR is OP? Proto scrambler can ** me up before I've even spooled - I haven't been OHK'd by one but I got 2 shotted the other day for 1600+ dmg. I tried running a somewhat similar fit and didnt find it working all that well myself. Regulators just don't work that well for my play style i guess. I find the armor buffer is much better and I can finish and engagement and let my shields recharge naturally based on whatever the final recharge delay is after 4 extenders.. I did fit an energizer on for my 5th slot which greatly helps.
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 144	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:45:00 - [24] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: I've come across players (In PC) that think since they throw all these Armour plates on their suits they'll become unkillable, but really it only makes them an easier kill. What they're doing is making up the lack of shield hp with armor in swap for damage mods. Nobody is unkillable but my best Cal Logi suit looks like this: 2x Complex DMG 3x Basic Sheid Extender State Kali Specialist RR Core Locus 2x Complex Armor 1 Basic Plate 1 Complex Dampener Equipment is Scanner and Hives. This is what works for me. That's the beauty of this game is the ability to do different things with suits. I don't complain when I see a Scout gk.0 with 700 armor and a logi with a core focus attached to his back. If that's how they wanna roll, let them, it's part of the game. The original post is about Cal Logis and armor. If you actually run Cal Logi all shield, you realize pretty quick after getting fluxed and ScR'd, that hey... maybe a little armor won't hurt.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4794	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:47:00 - [25] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: sadly, if you give any suit 4 LOWS and 5 HIGHS, people will realize that you can just armor tank the bottom and damage mod the high. even my scout suit can get 700+ armor. seriously, what the ** was CCP thinking when they made a suit with some of the most CPU and PG in the game, the most module slots, 5 hp/s reps, AND 3 equipment slots? did none of that jump out as being OP? If CCP discouraged dual tanking then a lot of issues would go away....too bad they're not sure how to do it :( 1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole** -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Patrick57 5723	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:51:00 - [26] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: They are very few and far between and the best players in the game will still be the best players regardless of what they run. Some people are just better at FPSs than others. That being said shield tanking is more viable now than it was before as more people use CR and RR than SCRs but they're still crap. You're a scrub if you think shield tanking alone is competitive. You obviously haven't run into a good Scrambler Rifle user. Just because you do good in pubs with it means nothing and if you're a min scout wtf are you supposed to tank? armor? A scouts lifeblood isn't his armor or shield anyway, it's his stealth. I have 4 different proto suits and not one of them has a complex shield extender on it. You're a dumbass. Zatara hates me :(
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 620	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:53:00 - [27] - Quote When running alone or in pubs, the added armor is an advantage given TTK is so low. PC is a different game, where speed, stealth and teamwork are more important, and armor is less useful on cal logis.
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 144	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:57:00 - [28] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: You're a dumbass. That's my opinion, **** you too pal.
Patrick57 5725	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:01:00 - [29] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Patrick57 wrote: You're a dumbass. That's my opinion, ** you too pal. If it's your 'opinion', then why the ** are you arguing throughout this entire thread? Just post your opinion once and move on. Not that hard to understand. Zatara hates me :(
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 144	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:08:00 - [30] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: If it's your 'opinion', then why the ** are you arguing throughout this entire thread? Just post your opinion once and move on. Not that hard to understand. My apologies if I come across as a **. I'm argumentive because I've been trying to get shields buffed for a long time now. Watch when the RR and CR get nerfed, which both will. Watch... just watch the ScR users and Flux/Mass Driver combos come back out. Then shield tanking will be right back where it was a few months ago. Useless.



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