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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:08:00 -
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Used the scrambler rifle to see what all the fuss was about and here is what i've come up with
PROS
charge shot is ohk for almost all scouts and most suits below advance level
every shot packs a punch
large clip
good for 1v1
CONS
overheat tends to kick in at the worst time leaving you completely defenceless till the gun has cooled
if you miss the charge shot your ****** if the enemy is somewhat close
overheat tends to kill you in intense cqc situations more then the enemy
not a good choice for fighting more then two ppl at a time
so far from what i've seen the scrambler rifle would be op if it weren't for the overheat function which keeps it in check but to ppl who run scouts and low tier suits it would seem op due to the charge shot which is ohk to them. also while it does have a high rof shooting the gun as fast as you can is not recommended as its easy to lose track of your heat build up and can lead to wasted shots.
simply put this gun is not op because overheat keeps it in check
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
246
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:09:00 -
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BTW i have pro V with scr since i use the ascr which i find to be much more reliable also you must take into account that this is a simi-auto weapon so more power per shot compared to other rifle makes sense which would give it a lower ttk IF every shot hits
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
246
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:28:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Thank you OP,
You just pointed out why the AK.0+ScR is broken. Fear of overheating is not a factor with the AK.0
I Disagree
since you can still overheat even the build up is the same between amarr assault suits but with the ak.0 the only difference is theres less chance of killing youself
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
247
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Posted - 2014.03.03 15:40:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Did you test it with Amarr assault level 5? As I expect you know, that makes most of the overheat issue go away.
A pro you didn't mention is massive total ammo damage (total ammo*damage). This means you don't absolutely need to use a slot on a hive, which is a big plus for assault suits.
The other thing with the ScR is that it is a relatively difficult weapon to master. It's not surprising that it seems relatively weak when you've not used it much.
The real question is whether a ScR is OP in the hands of a skilled user versus AR, CR, RR, LR in the hands of a similarly skilled user. My general impression is that it's roughly the same as CR and RR (maybe slightly weaker right now due to armour tanking dominance), stronger than AR, and much stronger than LR. i do have amarr assault five. Also what makes a gun op is not how good it is in the hands of a skilled user but rather how good it is in the hands of the everyday player. its not a grab and go op weapon like the rr and cr.
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
247
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:07:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Balance for PC, not pubs. most ppl don't play pc so balancing around it is a bad idea. balancing around pubs is much better as its what the general public plays, pc should be where ppl take what they learned and try to out show the other team using the best gear and strategies they have
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
247
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:11:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:You forgot spam... as a PRO of course.
define spam
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 02:00:00 -
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you can't compare a semi-auto to an automatic gun on damage per bullet semi-auto wins every time or dps since since your assuming every bullet hits. automatic guns have a much higher chance of hitting compared to semi-auto rifles, these are just some of they factors that are overlooked or ignored when comparing rifles
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
255
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Posted - 2014.03.04 02:42:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:
I have downed entire squads with a single mag using the adv Scr. My one experiance dosent make it OP, but the overwhelming number of recourded experiances of it being OP and also MATH kinda make your "opinion" seam kinda ... well... just an opinion
math doesn't mean a thing i ran a scrambler pistol with no damage mod on as a slayer logi back when the minmatar was the only logi suit till the scrambler rifle came out. and according to "math" that shouldn't be a viable fit but i still pull it off and even got the scrambler pistol nerfed along with hbonney. so you can fall back on math as your argument as much as you want but it doesn't mean **** till used on the battlefield.
now ask yourself this if 4 new players of equal skill spec into the different racial rifles and all took turns fighting each other 1v1 can you honestly say the scrambler rifle would win. its not how good a gun is in numbers but how good it makes the average player
p.s.
slayer logi b4 it was cool 
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 14:07:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Well, i've seen some people kill more than 3 people in a row with the Viziam, crazy KDR, they're unstoppable.
Personally, i'm very UP with a SCr, but that's only cuz i have level 1 operation and my suits are Gallente, so i don't get any bonus for it. I'm not good with it, but it's a killing machine in Amarr assaults or any proto suit if it's well trained,even the ADV SCr.
We can say that scouts suits suck if we only skill up to level 1. You need more than that to fully grasp how good a thing is or can be, so... how many levels did you train? proto with proficiency 5 since i use the carthum
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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