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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:47:00 -
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About Sentinels With Light Weapons
It's the weapon, not the suit.
Take these questions into mind for a moment.
Are Sentinels with Rail Rifles overpowered? Does wielding a Rail Rifle on a Sentinel grant an imbalanced advantage? Do you become frustrated when a Sentinel with a Rail Rifle kills you?
Are Sentinels with Laser Rifles overpowered? Does wielding a Laser Rifle on a Sentinel give an unfair advantage? Do you become frustrated when a Sentinel with a Laser Rifle kills you?
Now think here for a moment. Why is it that Laser Rifle wielding heavies aren't considered OP, yet Sentinels wielding Rail Rifles are? Could it be that it's because the Laser Rifle is UP, but the Rail Rifle is OP?
About Sentinels In General
Fighting Them On The Battlefield
A heavy can be tough to kill (especially in CQC), but isn't that their niche? A heavy on the battlefield is only a threat when they are being supported by a Logistics unit. Without support, the Sentinel will end up having to retreat once his/her HP runs low; leading to an easy kill simply because the Sentinel isn't fast enough to evade the area.
Sentinels In LAVs
Whenever I see a Sentinel inside an LAV, I simply throw 3 Lai Dais and watch as the Sentinel is burned alive. Wasn't this part of the reason why people started carrying AV grenades in the first place?
Seriously. I know you Master Chefs love cooking 'dem Locus Grenades, but perhaps you should exchange them for AV Grenades instead. It's always nice to try new flavors. (Unless it's the monthly flavor of course)
Hard Counters
Remote Explosives - Even a basic one will do. Sentinels move so slow, and when you compare that weakness to the throwing range of REs, trapping one almost guarantees a kill.
Shotguns - This job should be left for the big lads & gents. With Proficiency and a Damage Modifier, a Shotgun user can easily wipe a heavy without a second thought
Nova Knives - Pretty much like the shotgun, a properly speced Minmatar Scout can deal 600+ HP of damage with them. All it takes is a few swipes and the Sentinel is wiped.
Plasma Cannons- If you aren't carrying damage mods or have the Proficiency skill upgraded, you won't 1HK the Sentinel, but you will manage to leave them wiith so little HP left that a Millita Scrambler Pistol could finish them off.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:53:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sometimes I like to slap people..... I was forced to stop slapping people once 1.4 dropped and TTK became .2s
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:59:00 -
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Kira Takizawa wrote: Are Sentinels with Rail Rifles overpowered? The "tactic" is Does wielding a Rail Rifle on a Sentinel grant an imbalanced advantage? Yes Do you become frustrated when a Sentinel with a Rail Rifle kills you? Yes
Are Sentinels with Laser Rifles overpowered? No Does wielding a Laser Rifle on a Sentinel give an unfair advantage? Yes/No Do you become frustrated when a Sentinel with a Laser Rifle kills you? No The Laser Rifle isn't UP it's fine if you know how to use it. Everything seem to be right. :D
Meh. I just pulled an underused weapon from the back of my head.
I was originally going to say Plasma Cannons or Shotguns, but I didn't want it to seem to over-exaggerated or desperate lol
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Posted - 2014.03.03 00:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Too bad half of these tactics get invalidated come 1.8. Arguably so.
However, with 1.8 changes you can expect to see many more Scouts on the field, meaning more people with Shotguns & Nova Knives to counter the Sentinel.
Couple that with the fact that 1.8 changes will also mean much fewer support logis on the field.
The Scout spam should balance out the Sentinel spam quite nicely.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:39:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote: lol at their being less support logis just as the game changes to make them more important.
Need/Demand usually doesn't mean an increase in Supply/Quantity when it comes to DUST 514.
With the fact that both Slayer and Support logistics users are being nerfed, coupled by the fact that literally every other role/class in the entire game is being buffed is a pretty obvious indicator that we will see far less logis on the battlefield.
Want an example?
With all of the vehicles on the field, you would think there would be more AV on the field correct?
And with the fact that they can wield both AV and AI weaponry at the same time, you'd also think that there would be more Commando users on the field... right?
If it's not fun or overpowered, very few people (if any) are going to use it.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 12:06:00 -
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Posted - 2014.03.03 14:02:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:And tanks are not OP either. That is why everyone and their mother is spamming them. It's all fine. Nothing stops ppl from using the heavy suit rather than another suit. That's the problem. If it isn't any better then ehy is it the goto suit for most anything where you don't want to get killed easily? Nice try.
The fact that HAVs hard counter (AV) isn't effective on said vehicles makes the OP.
Please, try to disprove the many Threads & Videos explaining why HAVs are OP with something that's not anecdotal. Whe you manage to do so, then you'll actually have an argument.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:39:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:light weapons seem fine on these guys.
these maps are very large and open, and the hmg cannot compete at range, so the heavies need to adapt and use the longer range weapons until ccp gives heavies a longer range weapon of their own. I doubt CCP will release long-range heavy weapons simply because Sentinels are designed for CQC combat
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Posted - 2014.03.04 01:28:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Atiim wrote:calisk galern wrote:light weapons seem fine on these guys.
these maps are very large and open, and the hmg cannot compete at range, so the heavies need to adapt and use the longer range weapons until ccp gives heavies a longer range weapon of their own. I doubt CCP will release long-range heavy weapons simply because Sentinels are designed for CQC combat Forge Gun? The Forge Gun however, is an AV weapon.
I doubt CCP could implement a CQC AV weapon that isn't underpowered.
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Posted - 2014.03.04 18:38:00 -
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Hopefully Vegetation Monster reads this :)
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Posted - 2014.03.04 19:17:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote: 1) I did not think any Heavies had resistance to Nova Knives.
2) Only Caldari and Minmatar Heavies have resistance to Shotguns.
Which also means fluxing them before blasting them with the NK or SG grants an easy kill.
Even a 1s delay isn't fast enough to stop a scout in action.
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