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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:47:00 -
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Because if not, I don't see how this game is going to survive. I haven't played since November, and this idea of 'rapid-firing' updates got delayed very soon. There is nothing to do in this game at this point in time but play the same battle over and over and over again, whether it be for ISK to spend on more expensive gear, or to get loyalty points to buy other gear as well.
There's nothing to aim for! And if this game isn't coming to PS4 - I don't see any reason why people would be playing this in a year.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1798
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:53:00 -
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1: Not everyone will have a PS4 within a year, so you and the rest of the idiots saying that can shut that **** up.
2: Dust is broken atm, and needs some work before a PS4 port comes.
3: I talked with Logibro, and he said 2 year range as his guess.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:53:00 -
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PS4 topics...PS4 topics everywhere...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1784271#post1784271
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1817057#post1817057
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1782795#post1782795
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1719771#post1719771
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1712956#post1712956
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1701635#post1701635
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1697569#post1697569
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jenza aranda wrote:CCP is either planning for the PS4 or they are not and that information is NDA and begging on the forums isnt going to swing their mind one way or the other. |
Admonishment
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:54:00 -
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If it were to go on PS4 I am guessing they would probably want to finish getting the game polished to their satisfaction and then move it over when the game population starts to show a stable increase over time. Anything moved before then would be a potential loss. PS3 Still has a lot of life left in it, it was the same when PS3 first came out. People were still buying and playing PS2 games. I still do to this day.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
537
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:59:00 -
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sounds like a long, extended wait of this 'rapid-firing' where only 1 in 4 of the updates actually add decent content... I can't see many people putting up with that for more than 2 years
there's nothing to do in this game right now... nothing to aim for, heck I probably have about 3 mil SP from just being inactivefor the last 4 months - I have no reason to play it
your mom
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:01:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:sounds like a long, extended wait of this 'rapid-firing' where only 1 in 4 of the updates actually add decent content... I can't see many people putting up with that for more than 2 years
there's nothing to do in this game right now... nothing to aim for, heck I probably have about 3 mil SP from just being inactivefor the last 4 months - I have no reason to play it
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3074
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:03:00 -
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It is the best quote, because you don't NDA something that isn't in the works.
Jenza basically broke NDA right there by confirming the existence of it. |
Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
120
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:12:00 -
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PVE would bring in a lot of players and would more than likely help with keeping population numbers steady. After being competitive against other people most the day it would be a nice break to do some co-op and relax. I'm sure if they opened up that door in the merc quarters and added a place for players to meet and socialize/show off their suits it would increase activity even more. But that takes a lot of planning and work. I can say a year from now I will still be playing as long as this game stays around, I played many MMO games in the past and hoping to see some of the things that made them successful put into this game. Vanity items, color customization, achievements, etc. Being able to earn and show off titles for your character would be interesting.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
451
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:27:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:sounds like a long, extended wait of this 'rapid-firing' where only 1 in 4 of the updates actually add decent content... I can't see many people putting up with that for more than 2 years
there's nothing to do in this game right now... nothing to aim for, heck I probably have about 3 mil SP from just being inactivefor the last 4 months - I have no reason to play it
Then don't play it and go find another game to satiate your entertainment needs. It's really quite a simple solution...or you can pine away and waste those precious minutes of your life in a community for something you don't care for, moaning and complaining about how it does nothing for you. Way to live your life brah.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
537
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:05:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:sounds like a long, extended wait of this 'rapid-firing' where only 1 in 4 of the updates actually add decent content... I can't see many people putting up with that for more than 2 years
there's nothing to do in this game right now... nothing to aim for, heck I probably have about 3 mil SP from just being inactivefor the last 4 months - I have no reason to play it Then don't play it and go find another game to satiate your entertainment needs. It's really quite a simple solution...or you can pine away and waste those precious minutes of your life in a community for something you don't care for, moaning and complaining about how it does nothing for you. Way to live your life brah.
Did you even read my post? I haven't played since November, I've been on the PS4 for a long time - I'm just trying to see this game into the next generation - because with updates this infrequent and with such little content, I'd be surprised if 70% of the people are still here by the time it releases.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:49:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:sounds like a long, extended wait of this 'rapid-firing' where only 1 in 4 of the updates actually add decent content... I can't see many people putting up with that for more than 2 years
there's nothing to do in this game right now... nothing to aim for, heck I probably have about 3 mil SP from just being inactivefor the last 4 months - I have no reason to play it Then don't play it and go find another game to satiate your entertainment needs. It's really quite a simple solution...or you can pine away and waste those precious minutes of your life in a community for something you don't care for, moaning and complaining about how it does nothing for you. Way to live your life brah. Did you even read my post? I haven't played since November, I've been on the PS4 for a long time - I'm just trying to see this game into the next generation - because with updates this infrequent and with such little content, I'd be surprised if 70% of the people are still here by the time it releases.
LOL the funny part is, the PS4 library at its current standings has such little content.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
537
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:52:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:sounds like a long, extended wait of this 'rapid-firing' where only 1 in 4 of the updates actually add decent content... I can't see many people putting up with that for more than 2 years
there's nothing to do in this game right now... nothing to aim for, heck I probably have about 3 mil SP from just being inactivefor the last 4 months - I have no reason to play it Then don't play it and go find another game to satiate your entertainment needs. It's really quite a simple solution...or you can pine away and waste those precious minutes of your life in a community for something you don't care for, moaning and complaining about how it does nothing for you. Way to live your life brah. Did you even read my post? I haven't played since November, I've been on the PS4 for a long time - I'm just trying to see this game into the next generation - because with updates this infrequent and with such little content, I'd be surprised if 70% of the people are still here by the time it releases. LOL the funny part is, the PS4 library at its current standings has such little content.
I don't care as long as I get double the map size, double the players and double the performance and graphics on one game alone.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:43:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: I don't care as long as I get double the map size, double the players and double the performance and graphics on one game alone.
I truly believe CCP either works on a PS4 version, or have plans to do so in the future. However, if you want to have bigger maps and player count I think you will be disappointed. What you will get is more effects, better frame rate and higher textures.
The reason for this is quite simple: the PS3 and PS4 version of Dust have to connect to the same server and support cross platform play, unlike say Battlefield 4 which are two "separate" games.
Before the PS3 version is in a good place, there is no point porting to any other system.
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
654
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:
I don't care as long as I get double the map size, double the players and double the performance and graphics on one game alone.
Soooo you want Planet Side 2 then?
I hope you do not think DUST will ever be what you have described above.
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
420
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:51:00 -
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I'd rather this come out on PC than PS4.
+More people are likely to have computers than PS4s. +CCP has more experience developing on PCs than on game consoles. - Hackers and more vulnerable to cheaters.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
537
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:52:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:
I don't care as long as I get double the map size, double the players and double the performance and graphics on one game alone.
Soooo you want Planet Side 2 then? I hope you do not think DUST will ever be what you have described above.
Nah, I was saying that on PS4 I can play Battlefield 4, which has those assets which Dust doesn't.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:56:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
It is the best quote, because you don't NDA something that isn't in the works.
Jenza basically broke NDA right there by confirming the existence of it.
no i didn't -_-
I was just tired to death of PS4 topics and ooooooh look another!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2187
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:27:00 -
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I've said it before, and I'm sure I will say it another 18,987,420 times before it finally does move to PS4: Moving to PS4 now fixes NOTHING.
The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It knows nothing of weapon balance and can't create PVE out of thin air.
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Not everyone will have a PS4 within a year, so you and the rest of the idiots saying that can shut that **** up.
2: Dust is broken atm, and needs some work before a PS4 port comes.
3: I talked with Logibro, and he said 2 year range as his guess. "I talked to Logibro" boy, do we all feel better now.
If this game goes to PS4 (prolly won't, it's not generating enough revenue), then all support for the game on PS3 will stop. It's the way these things work. SOE is actually dumping F2P titles at a steady rate rather than port them.
My kids played Free Realms, which had like twice the playerbase DUST has. It's gone now.
Sony is making a big DUST push right now and putting demos in with new PS3s. A friend just bought one. He came over, watched me lose over and over, and now won't play.
My friend is the average gamer who doesn't have time to play a no fun, lose for 6 months straight game.
Sony is losing money with this push. Sony does not like losing money.
Sony will get mad and karate kick CCP in the nut sack within the next cpl months. Hard to tell if there will be a game after that.
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
538
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Posted - 2014.03.02 14:16:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:I've said it before, and I'm sure I will say it another 18,987,420 times before it finally does move to PS4: Moving to PS4 now fixes NOTHING.
The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It knows nothing of weapon balance and can't create PVE out of thin air.
That's not what I'm saying.
The PS4 will support better graphics, better performance, more versatile gameplay, it will support the oncoming generation of gamers and it will be a more stable community without people leaving every day.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2187
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:08:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I've said it before, and I'm sure I will say it another 18,987,420 times before it finally does move to PS4: Moving to PS4 now fixes NOTHING.
The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It knows nothing of weapon balance and can't create PVE out of thin air. That's not what I'm saying. The PS4 will support better graphics, better performance, more versatile gameplay, it will support the oncoming generation of gamers and it will be a more stable community without people leaving every day.
How?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:10:00 -
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SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:39:00 -
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The sweet spot for a PS4 release will be this upcoming Christmas season ... there will be a HUGE upswing of PS4 sales for Christmas and a large number of new PS4 game releases for it ... expect CCP to jump on the bandwagon then, or shortly thereafter.
nothing to see here ... move along
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:44:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Not everyone will have a PS4 within a year, so you and the rest of the idiots saying that can shut that **** up.
2: Dust is broken atm, and needs some work before a PS4 port comes.
3: I talked with Logibro, and he said 2 year range as his guess. Good post. Sums it up well, and the LogiBro thing is good to hear.
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Sir Petersen
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:22:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I've said it before, and I'm sure I will say it another 18,987,420 times before it finally does move to PS4: Moving to PS4 now fixes NOTHING.
The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It knows nothing of weapon balance and can't create PVE out of thin air. That's not what I'm saying. The PS4 will support better graphics, better performance, more versatile gameplay, it will support the oncoming generation of gamers and it will be a more stable community without people leaving every day. Over 90% of gamers do not have a next gen console. No hurry to move over just yet.
http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144921
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ZDub 303
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:33:00 -
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imho the answer comes down to frame rates. Some devs have been able to make fps games for the PS3 with playable frame rates and CCP Shanghai has been unable to (for whatever reason). No matter what CCP does to 'polish' this game, it will never be at a frame rate that makes it feel 'good'.
They can optimize PS3 code all year to make it playable, but to what end? Just to port it to a new architecture and lose all of that development time and effort?
No I truly believe this game needs to get off the PS3 as fast as possible. They can make it 'cross-platform' if they want, and just have separate game modes where the PS4 can do 32v32 with better optimizations or whatever and the PS3 can just get the new low res models in a 16v16 format. They can leave the PS3 there and just stop developing new content for it, letting the 500 or so players who would continue to play on the PS3 to switch over or quit on their own, discontinuing PS3 support something in 2015.
Also, x86 architecture guys, it would speed up development for these guys who clearly struggle with rapidly deploying updates on the PS3's terrible powerpc architecture.
PS4 asap imo, even if the game is unpolished. Better self-publishing platform, better hardware, better experience.
Most of the people I know who have quit will probably not come back as long as this game is on the PS3, it just feels horrible playing at ~15-20 fps, not when they can play games at 30+ on their PS4.
Last point: see how bad the rifles were balanced after hit detection was fixed in 1.4? Imagine how bad everything will be once we get decent frame rates on the PS4... you SHOULD NEVER balance weapons based on ****** frame rate. PS4 asap, it'll be better in the long run. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
538
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:38:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I've said it before, and I'm sure I will say it another 18,987,420 times before it finally does move to PS4: Moving to PS4 now fixes NOTHING.
The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It knows nothing of weapon balance and can't create PVE out of thin air. That's not what I'm saying. The PS4 will support better graphics, better performance, more versatile gameplay, it will support the oncoming generation of gamers and it will be a more stable community without people leaving every day. Over 90% of gamers do not have a next gen console. No hurry to move over just yet. http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144921
That percentage is only going to increase.
Do you really think I'm supporting an instant mass switchover? NO. That's why I said "is Dust EVER coming to PS4"... Stop manipulating my argument please.
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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:51:00 -
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As far as I'm concerned,Dust is already in development for PS4.It's getting released in September and is called Destiny.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2187
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:15:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:[quote=Aesiron Kor-Azor][quote=John Demonsbane]I've said it before, and I'm sure I will say it another 18,987,420 times before it finally does move to PS4: Moving to PS4 now fixes NOTHING.
The PS4 is not a self-aware machine that writes it's own code. It knows nothing of weapon balance and can't create PVE out of thin air. Do you really think I'm supporting an instant mass switchover? NO. That's why I said "is Dust EVER coming to PS4"... Stop manipulating my argument please.
I find that a large percentage of people making the "PS4rulez" argument do in fact want it done naow, meaning by fan fest. You may be an exception.
I'll tell you what I believe to be the most prudent course of action and why. It's a business argument as much as anything else, which is really the core argument here, the game needs to succeed financially if it is to survive, obviously.
Right now their major focus should be on fixing the core content of the game. This includes matchmaking, PC 2.0, racial parity (which includes balancing all those weapons/vehicles) and the player market. Unlike say, framerate, hit detecttion, and lag, these 4 things have nothing to do with the platform for the most part. They can be optimized on PS3, get transferred seamlessly to PS4 and don't represent redundant effort.
Simultaneously, or at least in the next few months, they should have a couple programmers chained in a dungeon in a
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Righteous Holylight
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:30:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:1: Not everyone will have a PS4 within a year, so you and the rest of the idiots saying that can shut that **** up.
2: Dust is broken atm, and needs some work before a PS4 port comes.
3: I talked with Logibro, and he said 2 year range as his guess.
Makes sense. |
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:50:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:TL;DR: Dust's long-term fate depends solely on a successful PS4 relaunch. You blow that (i.e., by moving it in the current broken state) and you kill the game. It needs to be fixed before you move it, not after.
I don't believe that and I suspect CCP doesn't either.
If they could release a Dust 514 'PS4 beta' by November 2014, and then keep it in beta until its ready (marketing dates and BS aside) I think people would be very accepting of it.
At the same time, have Wolfman and Remnant finish up the last few missing pieces of racial line ups like Min/Amarr HAVs and LAVs, and focus on getting everything relatively balanced by Nov. They would be in a great spot.
Then, in Summer 2015, they come out of beta on the PS4 with a polished UI on the PS4 after a 8-10 month beta period. 2.0 releases with a focus on NPE and PVE for new players hearing about the 're-release' of Dust 514 on the PS4.
Sounds pretty solid to me.
Over the course of 2.0 they focus on releasing 1 or 2 new vehicle types, a new map/socket here and there and focus on a more fleshed out low-sec PC 2.0 experience for 3.0 in 2016. Iterate and polish that up for null-sec PI and PoS invasions in 2017.
Its slow development in true CCP fashion but hell... that's even making a cynic like me excited. Anyone without a PS4 will really need to care until PC 2.0 in 2016 - which should be exclusive to PS4. PS3 can still do 16v16 public contracts but come 3.0 in 2016 - new content for PS3 stops, until the player numbers on the PS3 are low enough to discontinue the client altogether. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:15:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:TL;DR: Dust's long-term fate depends solely on a successful PS4 relaunch. You blow that (i.e., by moving it in the current broken state) and you kill the game. It needs to be fixed before you move it, not after. I don't believe that and I suspect CCP doesn't either. If they could release a Dust 514 'PS4 beta' by November 2014, and then keep it in beta until its ready (marketing dates and BS aside) I think people would be very accepting of it. At the same time, have Wolfman and Remnant finish up the last few missing pieces of racial line ups like Min/Amarr HAVs and LAVs, and focus on getting everything relatively balanced by Nov. They would be in a great spot. Then, in Summer 2015, they come out of beta on the PS4 with a polished UI on the PS4 after a 8-10 month beta period. 2.0 releases with a focus on NPE and PVE for new players hearing about the 're-release' of Dust 514 on the PS4. Sounds pretty solid to me. Over the course of 2.0 they focus on releasing 1 or 2 new vehicle types, a new map/socket here and there and focus on a more fleshed out low-sec PC 2.0 experience for 3.0 in 2016. Iterate and polish that up for null-sec PI and PoS invasions in 2017. Its slow development in true CCP fashion but hell... that's even making a cynic like me excited. Anyone without a PS4 will really need to care until PC 2.0 in 2016 - which should be exclusive to PS4. PS3 can still do 16v16 public contracts but come 3.0 in 2016 - new content for PS3 stops, until the player numbers on the PS3 are low enough to discontinue the client altogether.
Another beta? For 8-10 months(!) Nobody's going to go for that, that's crazy talk.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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ZDub 303
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:20:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Another beta? For 8-10 months(!) Nobody's going to go for that, that's crazy talk.
Why? FFXIV is in PS4 beta atm while having a full release PS3 and PC version and no one is freaking out over that.
And yes, for as long as it takes to get the controls, bugs, graphics, etc up to par. If there is one thing Uprising taught us its that you don't release a build too early 'just because'. |
IgniteableAura
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:03:00 -
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The main marketing VP already confirmed they are working toward a PS4 version during an EVE vegas Q&A.
Don't know why people are saying its NDA or not going to happen. Its in the works, but dev time is being focused onto getting things right on the PS3.
Besides most online experiences on the PS4 are garbage right now.
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dRlgzE_7FI&list=PLldrBIEnJ5hPv95uN75sGS_Kwlm7ezUWD#t=2491
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.03 16:44:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote: If there is one thing Uprising taught us its that you don't release a build too early 'just because'.
I think we can all agree on that one!
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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