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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:41:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lBjUlQNYR4&list=UUy11xToip47aIW0M9TSOKrQ&feature=c4-overview
I enjoyed watching this very much.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
439
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:58:00 -
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CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6984
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:58:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Assuming they crunch numbers.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Ripley Riley
767
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Assuming they crunch numbers.
It has been 87 days since 1.7...
We have no devblogs about 1.8 and the feedback threads they opened haven't been updated.
Community interaction is the foundation of an MMO and they are failing miserably at it. What the **** makes you think they are capable of crunching numbers?
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:42:00 -
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Nice vid. Ccp definitely needs to get people like Judge on to look at things when new builds are being passed. Or at least put up a test server where things can be tinkered with.
Playing the game badly since Replication
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6991
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:51:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Assuming they crunch numbers. It has been 87 days since 1.7... We have no devblogs about 1.8 and the feedback threads they opened haven't been updated. Community interaction is the foundation of an MMO and they are failing miserably at it. What the **** makes you think they are capable of crunching numbers? Actually, they aren't talking for a reason.
It's supposed to be the last time we have bad communication. It's something about CCP Rouge restructuring stuff.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
117
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:13:00 -
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Nice video. I liked the graphs. What did we learn? This game will never be balanced.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6994
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:14:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Nice video. I liked the graphs. What did we learn? This game will never be balanced. No, we learned to think more carefully about how changes will affect other aspects of the game.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Rodd of Nor
Nor Clan Combat Logistics
27
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:49:00 -
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love this video as with everything Ive seen by Judge it was very well presented and explained in an easy to understand way.
It is better to be thought an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
508
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:02:00 -
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+10. Awesome video Judge, thanks for posting Cat. CCP needs to hire this guy, I would say get a life, but you have a great hobby and I'm just jelly.
Pro-fit Prophet
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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General John Ripper
19018
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Assuming they crunch numbers. I am pretty sure they don't crunch.
A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked.
Such is the cycle of life.
My like count = respec petition.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
446
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:07:00 -
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The biggest problem for balance at the moment, IMHO of course, is the fact that CCP is trying to balance an incomplete spectrum of factors. Once all dropsuits, weapons, equipment, vehicles, turrets, modules etc etc are in the game then we can start making progress. Until then I expect lop sided duct tape attempts at balance like the disaster that was vehicle/AV.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3849
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:07:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Judge for CPM 1!!!!
Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
446
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:17:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Judge for CPM 1!!!!
He would absolutely get a vote from me.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Havaru Fox
Golden Empire of EvE
25
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:20:00 -
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copy of mine: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1889013#post1889013
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising
60
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:34:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Oh hell no they don't. This is the guy who wants to put a maximum range on eighty gigajoule railguns.
This man is the last person in the universe that should be working on a science fiction game. |
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:49:00 -
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He could make a video on knitting and you guys would love it. |
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1842
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:55:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Judge for CPM 1!!!! He would absolutely get a vote from me. Yup.
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Omareth Nasadra
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
314
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:19:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Oh hell no they don't. This is the guy who wants to put a maximum range on eighty gigajoule railguns that's relevant on a 4 km square map. This man is either totally ignorant, insane, or just doesn't care about anything but abstract game mechanics. (I'll take a mix of A and C with a side order of no disrespect intended.) This man is the last person in the universe that should be working on a science fiction game. get out of here red line scrub
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
412
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:35:00 -
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I agree and understand what he is saying that we shouldn't make decisions based on 'snapshots' but I hate how he skews or leaves out data to get his point across. The Adv AFG vs Hardened dropship example. Yes hit for hit they seem balanced, but this isn't turn based strategy RoF is a strong relevant factor that shouldn't be dropped for simplicity's sake. The small fires a shot every 1.2s, vs the AFG's after every 2.4s (or 2.25s for op5), means that for every FG shot the DS has already fired off two. Meaning the DS can easily kill the FG in half the time of miss half it's shots and still possibly kill the forge gunner. That TTK graph looks an awfully a lot like the ones he was saying were bad, so in order for it to support his argument he drops RoF from the equation intentional or not. That is misleading.
32db Mad Bomber.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2160
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:49:00 -
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Why are we using a breach forge gun vs a tank again?
Breach forge guns are highly situational and best used vs dropships while using proper positioning.
If AV is terrorizing dropships along with rails, just give them a built in resistance to rails and AV by a cut rate per level.
Level 5 dropship would give you a built in 30% resistance at 6% per level.
The problem with tanks
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1790
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:51:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Why are we using a breach forge gun vs a tank again?
Breach forge guns are highly situational and best used vs dropships while using proper positioning.
If AV is terrorizing dropships along with rails, just give them a built in resistance to rails and AV by a cut rate per level.
Level 5 dropship would give you a built in 30% resistance at 6% per level.
Maybe he's been hanging around KING CAPSLOCK too much?
Patrick57 Carries us all
Tanker Prof. V scrub
Q_Q moar
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1352
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Posted - 2014.03.02 05:11:00 -
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I honestly was not aware that people can't intuitively calculate effective hit points. . . spent a lot of time explaining aspects I took for granted as common knowledge, whoops.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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Forever ETC
703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
37
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:44:00 -
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Bravo! Someone finally used math to solve the imbalance.
Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd.
Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
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DELB0Y
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:20:00 -
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Another great, informative, well thought out presentation Judge Rhadamanthus!!! I salute you sir. Cant wait to see what changes 1.8 brings too. A lot of these balance issues need to be sorted out well in advance if they are wanting to make PVE a challenging success as well. I'm very sceptical about the redline being actually fixed properly by 1.8 though. We are still waiting for our vehicle lock for squads from 1.7!. When the redline damage in/out is nullified by an invisible shield or whatever and also the players ability to return there whilst in a vehicle removed it will expose implausible and OP fits very quickly I'm sure. CCP is lucky to have the vast majority of its play testing done by Dusts loyal fans. Once redline issues have been resolved CCP need only keep an eye on our play styles and fits through honest feedback that Youtubers like Judge Rhadamanthus, CEOPyrex, Bam Havok, X Ghazbaran and indeed anyone whos ever took the time and care to upload even a vid of a bug to CCP. I have a lot of faith that CCP will get this game in a vastly more polished state when they announce it on newer platforms but I'm worried that the immediate problems will delay the much needed addition of maps vechicle parity for the game I am playing every day now. The waiting game becomes worse for all when issues that Judge highlighted are almost a game to game occurrence.
Thank you Judge Rhadamanthus and others and thank you CCP for watching them. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2759
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:31:00 -
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Not even past the 1st graph and hes already ignoring ROF
I can see this is going to biased as ****
Intelligence is OP
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
501
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Posted - 2014.03.02 15:49:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:CCP needs to hire people like Judge to do the balancing. It's vids like this that make me wonder what the hell they're thinking when they crunch numbers. Assuming they crunch numbers. CCP don't crunch numbers. They smash them with the ban hammer hoping they turn out ok.
We want cake and tea.
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Balamob
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:13:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:I agree and understand what he is saying that we shouldn't make decisions based on 'snapshots' but I hate how he skews or leaves out data to get his point across. The Adv AFG vs Hardened dropship example. Yes hit for hit they seem balanced, but this isn't turn based strategy RoF is a strong relevant factor that shouldn't be dropped for simplicity's sake. The small fires a shot every 1.2s, vs the AFG's after every 2.4s (or 2.25s for op5), means that for every FG shot the DS has already fired off two. Meaning the DS can easily kill the FG in half the time of miss half it's shots and still possibly kill the forge gunner. That TTK graph looks an awfully a lot like the ones he was saying were bad, so in order for it to support his argument he drops RoF from the equation intentional or not. That is misleading.
I agree with Asha on that he doesnt show all the variables (i dont blame him, is a lot of information), but he is showing an important part of the "spectrum imbalance" and he indeed has knowledge of the actual game, knowledge useful to devs. |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
623
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:29:00 -
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This guy put a lot of work into his video,but I content,like another post said,until we have all the content,this game will never really be balanced.Furthermore,I would say that until we have at least 32vs32 matches,it won't be balance either.
I hate tanks as they currently are,but if you have four people shooting at one tank with AV,this probably wouldn't be much of an issue,but as it is now,a team can't really afford to have four people dedicated as AV to take out a single tank.That's 25% of a team to quickly and effectively take out possibly one person.That's right there is what's imbalanced.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1892
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:39:00 -
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DELB0Y wrote:Another great, informative, well thought out presentation Judge Rhadamanthus!!! I salute you sir. Cant wait to see what changes 1.8 brings too. A lot of these balance issues need to be sorted out well in advance if they are wanting to make PVE a challenging success as well. I'm very sceptical about the redline being actually fixed properly by 1.8 though. We are still waiting for our vehicle lock for squads from 1.7!. When the redline damage in/out is nullified by an invisible shield or whatever and also the players ability to return there whilst in a vehicle removed it will expose implausible and OP fits very quickly I'm sure. CCP is lucky to have the vast majority of its play testing done by Dusts loyal fans. Once redline issues have been resolved CCP need only keep an eye on our play styles and fits through honest feedback that Youtubers like Judge Rhadamanthus, CEOPyrex, Bam Havok, X Ghazbaran and indeed anyone whos ever took the time and care to upload even a vid of a bug to CCP. I have a lot of faith that CCP will get this game in a vastly more polished state when they announce it on newer platforms but I'm worried that the immediate problems will delay the much needed addition of maps vechicle parity for the game I am playing every day now. The waiting game becomes worse for all when issues that Judge highlighted are almost a game to game occurrence.
Thank you Judge Rhadamanthus and others and thank you CCP for watching them. Wow, brown nose much?
You know that nasty smell you've been experiencing all day? It's on your nose.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
611
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lBjUlQNYR4&list=UUy11xToip47aIW0M9TSOKrQ&feature=c4-overview
I enjoyed watching this very much.
LOL armor gal atk dropship with missiles LOL
o man i can see it fooling some guy that's never played the game. but any player knows your BSing everyone in a armor atk drop ship fitted with missiles more so the fact you think the game is all about being fair on your end or is that because you dont play PC and all your games are from Pup match's .
so just asking how meany games did here go into till he fined the best team vsing the worst team ??
and why do,s anyone care about this guy and his rants ? i geust there the same like him players who care tell that CCP is still working on the game a game that at this point do,s not even have 40% of what is yet to come out and they all want it fair when it takes more time to fix the game every patch to be fair and then undo it to see hows the game is coming along as they add new stuff.
rely just HTFU
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10266
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:44:00 -
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The tanker crutch brigade is here!
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Herro Blow
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:34:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Cat Merc wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lBjUlQNYR4&list=UUy11xToip47aIW0M9TSOKrQ&feature=c4-overview
I enjoyed watching this very much. LOL armor gal atk dropship with missiles LOL o man i can see it fooling some guy that's never played the game. but any player knows your BSing everyone in a armor atk drop ship fitted with missiles more so the fact you think the game is all about being fair on your end or is that because you dont play PC and all your games are from Pup match's . so just asking how meany games did here go into till he fined the best team vsing the worst team ?? and why do,s anyone care about this guy and his rants ? i geust there the same like him players who care tell that CCP is still working on the game a game that at this point do,s not even have 40% of what is yet to come out and they all want it fair when it takes more time to fix the game every patch to be fair and then undo it to see hows the game is coming along as they add new stuff. rely just HTFU
What? Is this a reply for the Evo thread or something? This doesn't seem to have anything to do the vid in the link. |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7032
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:40:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Not even past the 1st graph and hes already ignoring ROF
I can see this is going to biased as ****
EDIT: Cant use swarms against a shield ADS with a hardener, wont do anything - bad example
Why is he going over stacking penalties? these are already in the game, plus thats only if they put on all the hardeners they have
Proto swarm fires each missile on its own, because each missile hit the vehicle on its own if it cannot break the regen the damage will be repped back
Ignores ROF again
So comparing militia swarms with a top modded python - Not swarms do reduced damage to shields also each missile hits on its own, it may fire 4 missiles but they hit 1 after each other and not even as a group, they will not break the regen with 1 hardener on
So now your trying to balance proto FG to a mlt HAV? if we have proto hulls we could balance it with proto AV but also increasing the proto breach would end any and all DS in the sky
lolbalance, rich coming from the guy who wants to remove railguns from the game
1. Cap has already been requested by quite a few ppl including me back in the close beta - copy and paste from EVE job done
2. Have it if you want but infantry will cry if a protobear gets 3 of them and is unkillable
3. We already have mod stacking penalties, if i use 2 i get more resistance but not full resistance
4. You mean like the afterburner for ariel vehicles and nitro for ground vehicles?
5. We can still do that since meta level 1-3 is mlt/basic, 4-6 is adv, 7-9 is proto and 10+ is officer, problem is infantry dont want vehicles to have adv/proto hulls so you cant balance adv/proto AV because if you let proto AV 1 shot basic then we are back to pre 1.7
I wasted my time watching that I already asked about that.
He said this was just an example of how imbalances can easily be created by balancing other aspects of the game.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Spkr4theDead wrote:DELB0Y wrote:Another great, informative, well thought out presentation Judge Rhadamanthus!!! I salute you sir. Cant wait to see what changes 1.8 brings too. A lot of these balance issues need to be sorted out well in advance if they are wanting to make PVE a challenging success as well. I'm very sceptical about the redline being actually fixed properly by 1.8 though. We are still waiting for our vehicle lock for squads from 1.7!. When the redline damage in/out is nullified by an invisible shield or whatever and also the players ability to return there whilst in a vehicle removed it will expose implausible and OP fits very quickly I'm sure. CCP is lucky to have the vast majority of its play testing done by Dusts loyal fans. Once redline issues have been resolved CCP need only keep an eye on our play styles and fits through honest feedback that Youtubers like Judge Rhadamanthus, CEOPyrex, Bam Havok, X Ghazbaran and indeed anyone whos ever took the time and care to upload even a vid of a bug to CCP. I have a lot of faith that CCP will get this game in a vastly more polished state when they announce it on newer platforms but I'm worried that the immediate problems will delay the much needed addition of maps vechicle parity for the game I am playing every day now. The waiting game becomes worse for all when issues that Judge highlighted are almost a game to game occurrence.
Thank you Judge Rhadamanthus and others and thank you CCP for watching them. Wow, brown nose much? You know that nasty smell you've been experiencing all day? It's on your nose.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:18:00 -
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It is a great video.
I am sure I would take exception to many of the charts though. for example:
The chart showing the militia tank with a militia blaster versus a proto breach FG user is based off of hits registered. Unfortunately it completely ignores the time in between the hits (0.15 secs for the blaster, 4.5 seconds for the breach FG). This makes charts based upon damage and hit numbers nearly useless when the RoF can differ by orders of magnitude.
In the end though, it is a good video.
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:35:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Unfortunately it completely ignores the time in between the hits (0.15 secs for the blaster, 4.5 seconds for the breach FG). This makes charts based upon damage and hit numbers nearly useless when the RoF can differ by orders of magnitude.
In the end though, it is a good video.
Quote : " I factored the tanks dps based on the forge guns charge time" Link taks you to the point where I clarify that I do this.
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LOL!! This is coming from a player who camps in the hills!.....this is for you Sad Fury
BAD FURRY wrote:Cat Merc wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lBjUlQNYR4&list=UUy11xToip47aIW0M9TSOKrQ&feature=c4-overview
I enjoyed watching this very much. LOL armor gal atk dropship with missiles LOL o man i can see it fooling some guy that's never played the game. but any player knows your BSing everyone in a armor atk drop ship fitted with missiles more so the fact you think the game is all about being fair on your end or is that because you dont play PC and all your games are from Pup match's . so just asking how meany games did here go into till he fined the best team vsing the worst team ?? and why do,s anyone care about this guy and his rants ? i geust there the same like him players who care tell that CCP is still working on the game a game that at this point do,s not even have 40% of what is yet to come out and they all want it fair when it takes more time to fix the game every patch to be fair and then undo it to see hows the game is coming along as they add new stuff. rely just HTFU
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:37:00 -
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Great video again Judge. Let's get our own game company going. You can do the maths though. I'm an artist.
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