DUST Search - Complaining about heavies?

CommanderBolt wrote:

Roy Ventus wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

The heavy is MASSIVELY effective suit with zero skill requirement.

Those heavies that were macerating my assault suit?
I switched to a heavy and took them down 2v1.
Heck took them down with a rep tool behind them.

Once I get on an equal footing with them, they suck arse.

That's why I'm annoyed at how ludicrously powerful they are.

Lol exactly. People called me a many things when I complained about it.

Militia gives you more eHP than an assault or logistics base for way cheaper. Throw a Prototype RR on it and it's the cheap killer. I'm not good at moving slow and using the RR so I can't say I'm good at it but damn if I don't get manhandled by people who don't really have skill, just their eHP. If the cost was rough like it is for us to tank, I wouldn't feel so strongly about it. That's why I'm hoping the MD is the anti-heavy weapon I'm looking for.

lol damn you guys!

I have been complaining about EHP 514 for ages. A heavy with a hmg is meant to be the best thing going within a short radius!

This game has been broken since Uprising first came out. Has it really took this heavy event for the rest of you to finally see?
How do you think new players feel? Why do you think new players dont stick around!

You know I can honestly see it now - 1.8 is going to make a lot of people mad. Heavies everywhere. Me and my CEO have been talking about this since the details were released for the new heavy suits.

Best thing to do right now is honestly not take this game even remotely serious. Just roll with it for now. If the game does not progress and balance then we can all leave it in the trash heap. That's my plan anyway.

"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."

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Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 556	Posted - 2014.03.01 12:35:00 - [1] - Quote Has there been alot of this going on? I just came on and I instantly saw 3 posts about the issue. I really don't see what the problem is, the HMG is finally better than almost any gun at around 10-15 meters, as it should be, because it's a heavy weapon. Share your complaints, I'd love to see what people see wrong with a suit that's supposed to take and deal alot of damage. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 893	Posted - 2014.03.01 12:38:00 - [2] - Quote No complaints here. Just shred them up at range or use explosives / grenades / MD to drive them out of buildings "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 556	Posted - 2014.03.01 12:41:00 - [3] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: No complaints here. Just shred them up at range or use explosives / grenades / MD to drive them out of buildings Lol, remotes...my bane...my love. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10211	Posted - 2014.03.01 12:56:00 - [4] - Quote I get irritated when they're massively spammed. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
ONE-I-BANDIT The Generals General Tso's Alliance 21	Posted - 2014.03.01 12:57:00 - [5] - Quote some one cry every time some thing new comes out because they dont have it or they have died too many time. some ppl believe an hmg should be like an starw and spitball lol. point inhand RR users. The ball is in our court now boys Wait till they get al load of me Proto Logi /Big Bad Tanker
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 427	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:06:00 - [6] - Quote This alt has 4 million SP, rocking advanced min scout, standard combat rifle and less than 250 eHP. Also, I am not that good at FPS games in general (though I've got a lot better since playing D514) and I've killed many. Don't really get what ppl are butt devastated about. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2745	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:14:00 - [7] - Quote The heavy is fine Its just the logi/assaults getting butthurt over another playstyle which is becoming more useful and is starting to breakaway from Medium Frame514 Intelligence is OP
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 330	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:18:00 - [8] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: This alt has 4 million SP, rocking advanced min scout, standard combat rifle and less than 250 eHP. Also, I am not that good at FPS games in general (though I've got a lot better since playing D514) and I've killed many. Don't really get what ppl are butt devastated about. It's less about the heavy and more about people using it as free EHP for light weapons.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1769	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:25:00 - [9] - Quote the weapon itself is ok, the actual hp are ok too. I still have doubts about passive resistances. Looks like CCP now wants people to spec into heavies, nerf them, then let people spec into scouts, then nerf them again. Let's be honest: if you spam heavies and have a couple good tanks in your squad you win. That's why things are still not well balanced: you shouldn't own anyone by spamming heavies. >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 429	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:45:00 - [10] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: This alt has 4 million SP, rocking advanced min scout, standard combat rifle and less than 250 eHP. Also, I am not that good at FPS games in general (though I've got a lot better since playing D514) and I've killed many. Don't really get what ppl are butt devastated about. It's less about the heavy and more about people using it as free EHP for light weapons. Ahhh the RR thing? CCP should have side arm, light weapon and heavy weapon slots. Heavy suits should only have heavy slots. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6949	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:49:00 - [11] - Quote The heavy is MASSIVELY effective suit with zero skill requirement. Those heavies that were macerating my assault suit? I switched to a heavy and took them down 2v1. Heck took them down with a rep tool behind them. Once I get on an equal footing with them, they suck arse. That's why I'm annoyed at how ludicrously powerful they are. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 1192	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:02:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The heavy is MASSIVELY effective suit with zero skill requirement. Those heavies that were macerating my assault suit? I switched to a heavy and took them down 2v1. Heck took them down with a rep tool behind them. Once I get on an equal footing with them, they suck arse. That's why I'm annoyed at how ludicrously powerful they are. Lol exactly. People called me a many things when I complained about it. Militia gives you more eHP than an assault or logistics base for way cheaper. Throw a Prototype RR on it and it's the cheap killer. I'm not good at moving slow and using the RR so I can't say I'm good at it but damn if I don't get manhandled by people who don't really have skill, just their eHP. If the cost was rough like it is for us to tank, I wouldn't feel so strongly about it. That's why I'm hoping the MD is the anti-heavy weapon I'm looking for. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 899	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:06:00 - [13] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The heavy is MASSIVELY effective suit with zero skill requirement. Those heavies that were macerating my assault suit? I switched to a heavy and took them down 2v1. Heck took them down with a rep tool behind them. Once I get on an equal footing with them, they suck arse. That's why I'm annoyed at how ludicrously powerful they are. Lol exactly. People called me a many things when I complained about it. Militia gives you more eHP than an assault or logistics base for way cheaper. Throw a Prototype RR on it and it's the cheap killer. I'm not good at moving slow and using the RR so I can't say I'm good at it but damn if I don't get manhandled by people who don't really have skill, just their eHP. If the cost was rough like it is for us to tank, I wouldn't feel so strongly about it. That's why I'm hoping the MD is the anti-heavy weapon I'm looking for. lol damn you guys! I have been complaining about EHP 514 for ages. A heavy with a hmg is meant to be the best thing going within a short radius! This game has been broken since Uprising first came out. Has it really took this heavy event for the rest of you to finally see? How do you think new players feel? Why do you think new players dont stick around! You know I can honestly see it now - 1.8 is going to make a lot of people mad. Heavies everywhere. Me and my CEO have been talking about this since the details were released for the new heavy suits. Best thing to do right now is honestly not take this game even remotely serious. Just roll with it for now. If the game does not progress and balance then we can all leave it in the trash heap. That's my plan anyway. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 1192	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:34:00 - [14] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The heavy is MASSIVELY effective suit with zero skill requirement. Those heavies that were macerating my assault suit? I switched to a heavy and took them down 2v1. Heck took them down with a rep tool behind them. Once I get on an equal footing with them, they suck arse. That's why I'm annoyed at how ludicrously powerful they are. Lol exactly. People called me a many things when I complained about it. Militia gives you more eHP than an assault or logistics base for way cheaper. Throw a Prototype RR on it and it's the cheap killer. I'm not good at moving slow and using the RR so I can't say I'm good at it but damn if I don't get manhandled by people who don't really have skill, just their eHP. If the cost was rough like it is for us to tank, I wouldn't feel so strongly about it. That's why I'm hoping the MD is the anti-heavy weapon I'm looking for. lol damn you guys! I have been complaining about EHP 514 for ages. A heavy with a hmg is meant to be the best thing going within a short radius! This game has been broken since Uprising first came out. Has it really took this heavy event for the rest of you to finally see? How do you think new players feel? Why do you think new players dont stick around! You know I can honestly see it now - 1.8 is going to make a lot of people mad. Heavies everywhere. Me and my CEO have been talking about this since the details were released for the new heavy suits. Best thing to do right now is honestly not take this game even remotely serious. Just roll with it for now. If the game does not progress and balance then we can all leave it in the trash heap. That's my plan anyway. >.> do we look new to you? We've been talking about the same crap for a while. I got suggestions for CCP that date back to closed beta. eHP is a more recent issue. I believe the Gal Logi was the big problem first time around. Never used them but at least their cost came with their tank. I try not to speak out of my ass so I don't speak up about issues until I can say I legitimately feel that way. Put out a thread asking why I should I not choose a heavy or an assault and got a bunch of bitching at me. Ehh. But that's not the only thing wrong for the new players. It actually gotten better for them because of TTK. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Hecarim Van Hohen ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 487	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:41:00 - [15] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Ahhh the RR thing? CCP should have side arm, light weapon and heavy weapon slots. Heavy suits should only have heavy slots. If you mean by "only heavy slots" that heavies can only wield eavy weapons plus the sidearm I would be totally ok with this BANGO SKANK WAS HERE 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 432	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:45:00 - [16] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Ahhh the RR thing? CCP should have side arm, light weapon and heavy weapon slots. Heavy suits should only have heavy slots. If you mean by "only heavy slots" that heavies can only wield eavy weapons plus the sidearm I would be totally ok with this Yeah that's what I meant. If people want to wield light weapons, wear a medium suit! I mean...I personally don't have that much of an issue with this problem. I'm a roll with the punches kind of guy and appreciate the diverse/unconventional/unorthodox approach...but my OCD demon overlord says that heavys only wielding heavy weapons makes sense. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 50	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:56:00 - [17] - Quote I have no complaints, I am not going to take on a heavy unless I'm sure I got the drop on him. I use remotes and a SG, SMG to finish them off if neither of those work. Though when I take out one heavy and run away.... I usually whip around the corner to get blasted with an HMG from another. Lmao. Good games you fat bastards. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2921	Posted - 2014.03.01 15:05:00 - [18] - Quote I hope I've been pissing people off this week with my MLT Heavy and STD HMG. My cores are maxed, HMG Proficiency 5, and I know seeing that MLT on your Death screen has to really burn. Especially to the tards that brought (and lost) their Proto Heavy ** trying to preserve their stupid little KDR. I'm losing a few more suits, because I don't have damage mods or plates and the MLT is spongy (600/450, compared to my 600/980 aK.0) but I can buy 100 fully fitted suits with every match's winnings. And when the event is over, those Kills all become Aurum Proto weapons. Minimum investment, maximum profit. I've been bumrushing the holy ** out of any objective with an Uplink near it and I know I've caught a few by surprise with my solo determination. Just be glad I haven't had a squad and a Logi. The tears would flood the Grand Canyon. I GÖú Kittens.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 985	Posted - 2014.03.01 15:10:00 - [19] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Ahhh the RR thing? CCP should have side arm, light weapon and heavy weapon slots. Heavy suits should only have heavy slots. If you mean by "only heavy slots" that heavies can only wield eavy weapons plus the sidearm I would be totally ok with this Yeah that's what I meant. If people want to wield light weapons, wear a medium suit! I mean...I personally don't have that much of an issue with this problem. I'm a roll with the punches kind of guy and appreciate the diverse/unconventional/unorthodox approach...but my OCD demon overlord says that heavys only wielding heavy weapons makes sense. hmmmm i only run with my HMG/FG with a sidearm. but if you want to go with that sort of idea then can all assault suits get rid of their equipment slot? since the logi is suppose to be the one thats doing the resupply/revive/repair. assaults should just focus on the killing etc etc YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 180	Posted - 2014.03.01 15:15:00 - [20] - Quote HMG master race. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy

HiddenBrother 69	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:14:00 - [21] - Quote HMG nerf because QQ. Ruin. Weekly PC battles; even though ninety percent of Molden Heath is locked. 36 million ISK battle coins are fun.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 531	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:23:00 - [22] - Quote I personally dont have any problems engaging Heavies atm ,as long as it still takes 1 RE to kill them come 1.8, and if it doesnt ima start flipping office tables. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Hecarim Van Hohen ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 487	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:31:00 - [23] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: I personally dont have any problems engaging Heavies atm ,as long as it still takes 1 RE to kill them come 1.8, and if it doesnt ima start flipping office tables. With the blast resistance (25%) I think one RE is not going to kill my heavy EDIT [Source] BANGO SKANK WAS HERE 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1832	Posted - 2014.03.01 16:39:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I get irritated when they're massively spammed. Yeah...My CR can only kill so many bullet sponges before needing to reload. And that number is one. Their just so common because of the event though. I know there aren't half as many real heavies as their are people playing heavy in this event. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 586	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:02:00 - [25] - Quote It bothers me a bit when I lose a proto suit to a pair of basic heavies who waltz into a flag I'm hacking and melt me in a half second. But really all this does is reinforce the fact that I should be engaging from distance, not using my ck.0 suit in enclosed spaces. I have no issues with heavies at this time -- although I am concerned with the changes that 1.8 will bring.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 531	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:18:00 - [26] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: I personally dont have any problems engaging Heavies atm ,as long as it still takes 1 RE to kill them come 1.8, and if it doesnt ima start flipping office tables. With the blast resistance (25%) I think one RE is not going to kill my heavy EDIT [Source] ima flipping tables already Gö+GöüGö+ Gö+GöüGö+ (Gò»-¦Gûí-¦)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4665	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:21:00 - [27] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: Has there been alot of this going on? I just came on and I instantly saw 3 posts about the issue. I really don't see what the problem is, the HMG is finally better than almost any gun at around 10-15 meters, as it should be, because it's a heavy weapon. Share your complaints, I'd love to see what people see wrong with a suit that's supposed to take and deal alot of damage. The issue is the "kinetic impulse" on bullets which prevents anyone who tries to disengage when they see a heavy from being able to. The idea is that you run into an area, see a Sentinel with an HMG, and are forced to retreat and rethink your approach before getting shredded. Now the Sentinel just has to start shooting you, and you're practically frozen in place. Add to that that they rotate as fast as any other suit, and a group of them are almost unstoppable. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 725	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:26:00 - [28] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: No complaints here. Just shred them up at range or use explosives / grenades / MD to drive them out of buildings Last one isn't viable competitively, and the last 2 won't be viable AT ALL against Heavies in 1.8 The main problem with Heavies is turning speed, which needs to be reduced. I'm fine with everything else, even with my weapon being useless against it in the next build.
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 201	Posted - 2014.03.01 17:53:00 - [29] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: Has there been alot of this going on? I just came on and I instantly saw 3 posts about the issue. I really don't see what the problem is, the HMG is finally better than almost any gun at around 10-15 meters, as it should be, because it's a heavy weapon. Share your complaints, I'd love to see what people see wrong with a suit that's supposed to take and deal alot of damage. because the majority or ppl playing riflespam514 dont know how to adapt and can only acomplish QQ'ing its sad tho i finally get the game ive been wanting ( scout/heavy 514 ) and those dam medium rifle scrubs(* not all in the med/rifleclass are scrubs) are already trying to nerf my **** i just want some heavy /scout fun v.v profesional heavy since forever Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 51	Posted - 2014.03.01 18:11:00 - [30] - Quote As as heavy, skilled solely in all things heavy, it makes since that in a open map that I would use a different suit and light weapon vs a heavy suit and light weapon. Or just use a LAV :)



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