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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:14:00 -
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Only thing i dislike about heavies is that they still kill me with the hmg at beyond their effective range. Then again im a scout so any incoming fire hurts. Re's are my best friend again. Even if the heavy does tank it, followup 2 pistol shots ends it
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
562
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Posted - 2014.03.04 06:25:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:I hope I've been pissing people off this week with my MLT Heavy and STD HMG.
My cores are maxed, HMG Proficiency 5, and I know seeing that MLT on your Death screen has to really burn. Especially to the tards that brought (and lost) their Proto Heavy **** trying to preserve their stupid little KDR.
I'm losing a few more suits, because I don't have damage mods or plates and the MLT is spongy (600/450, compared to my 600/980 aK.0) but I can buy 100 fully fitted suits with every match's winnings. And when the event is over, those Kills all become Aurum Proto weapons. Minimum investment, maximum profit.
I've been bumrushing the holy **** out of any objective with an Uplink near it and I know I've caught a few by surprise with my solo determination.
Just be glad I haven't had a squad and a Logi. The tears would flood the Grand Canyon.
Have you been spying on me? this is exactly what I've been doing except I'm not specced into heavies at all lol
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2014.03.04 06:30:00 -
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I just get angry about heavies when I knife them with maxed out skills for knives and they survive with 100 or so armour and do a 180 and instant kill my scout.
They shouldn't turn THAT fast.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.04 07:15:00 -
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Ok now that I'm paying attention to this I'll address some of the comments.
First off heavies running around with rail rifles isn't the fault of heavies, rail rifles are a very powerful gun and heavies are a very powerful suit it's only natural that they would end up together, does that mean heavies shouldn't be allowed to use light weapons? No, it just means that light weapons are more useful and powerful than heavy weapons, and that there's no medium to long range heavy weapon that fires faster than 1 shot every 3 seconds. What's the fix for this? More heavy weapons and make light weapons less powerful, we know for a fact that the second half is being done at least for the rifles.
Heavy machine guns killing people outside of their effective range? Guess what, it's a heavy weapon, at longer range it does less damage like any other gun but you're still putting alot of rounds down range, I've gotten kills at like 50 meters with the thing and I only have 1 skill level in HMG, but because it's not fair it needs to be nerfed? Please, ya wanna talk about unfair, I lost 600 shields today to a rail rifle from around 100 meters in about 2 seconds, how is ANYTHING supposed to counter that?
As for heavies being spammed in 1.8, like alot of things it will depend on how the rifles turn out after nerf-fest 2014, if it's done right then you wont get super tanked explosive resistant bullet catchers with long range powerful high rate of fire guns, you'll just get super tanked explosive resistant bullet catchers with close range powerful high rate of fire guns, or long range low rate of fire AV cannons.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
630
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Posted - 2014.03.04 07:40:00 -
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I swear to god almighty if you qq a$$hats get my hmg nerfed again I'll strangle a minmatar baby with my Caldari heavy/commando. Heavy weapons are all doomed let the medium suit be the slayer let assault rifles do all the killing..... Now I'm a qqer... does it spread ohhhhhhhh noooooo
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
630
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Posted - 2014.03.04 07:44:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Has there been alot of this going on? I just came on and I instantly saw 3 posts about the issue. I really don't see what the problem is, the HMG is finally better than almost any gun at around 10-15 meters, as it should be, because it's a heavy weapon.
Share your complaints, I'd love to see what people see wrong with a suit that's supposed to take and deal alot of damage. because the majority or ppl playing riflespam514 dont know how to adapt and can only acomplish QQ'ing its sad tho i finally get the game ive been wanting ( scout/heavy 514 ) and those dam medium rifle scrubs(* not all in the med/rifleclass are scrubs) are already trying to nerf my **** i just want some heavy /scout fun v.v profesional heavy since forever
I know the fills I still miss my type II armor in chromosome
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
630
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Posted - 2014.03.04 07:46:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Rynoceros wrote:I hope I've been pissing people off this week with my MLT Heavy and STD HMG.
My cores are maxed, HMG Proficiency 5, and I know seeing that MLT on your Death screen has to really burn. Especially to the tards that brought (and lost) their Proto Heavy **** trying to preserve their stupid little KDR.
I'm losing a few more suits, because I don't have damage mods or plates and the MLT is spongy (600/450, compared to my 600/980 aK.0) but I can buy 100 fully fitted suits with every match's winnings. And when the event is over, those Kills all become Aurum Proto weapons. Minimum investment, maximum profit.
I've been bumrushing the holy **** out of any objective with an Uplink near it and I know I've caught a few by surprise with my solo determination.
Just be glad I haven't had a squad and a Logi. The tears would flood the Grand Canyon. Have you been spying on me? this is exactly what I've been doing except I'm not specced into heavies at all lol
600 980 are you running two reps I run three complex plates and 1 complex rep with my hmg yea I'm slow but anyone who gets near me is dead
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.03.04 08:12:00 -
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I totally disagree that heavys should ONLY be able to carry a heavy weapon in their heavy weapon slot. What's next? only light weapons in a light slot?? No dual wielding pistols for you!!
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.04 08:51:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Rynoceros wrote:I hope I've been pissing people off this week with my MLT Heavy and STD HMG.
My cores are maxed, HMG Proficiency 5, and I know seeing that MLT on your Death screen has to really burn. Especially to the tards that brought (and lost) their Proto Heavy **** trying to preserve their stupid little KDR.
I'm losing a few more suits, because I don't have damage mods or plates and the MLT is spongy (600/450, compared to my 600/980 aK.0) but I can buy 100 fully fitted suits with every match's winnings. And when the event is over, those Kills all become Aurum Proto weapons. Minimum investment, maximum profit.
I've been bumrushing the holy **** out of any objective with an Uplink near it and I know I've caught a few by surprise with my solo determination.
Just be glad I haven't had a squad and a Logi. The tears would flood the Grand Canyon. Have you been spying on me? this is exactly what I've been doing except I'm not specced into heavies at all lol 600 980 are you running two reps I run three complex plates and 1 complex rep with my hmg yea I'm slow but anyone who gets near me is dead
all I got is a militia heavy 600 450 with a basic HMG and in the past 2 weeks my KDR has gone up, I've gotten 1000 kills for the event, and I made 16 million isk, heavies are great! I think the main problem with this game is that if you want to be effective in any way you almost need to specialize at first, but what happens when the thing you specialize in gets nerfed or buffed or turns out to be some way inferior or not able to handle all situations? Here comes the QQ!
buff this nerf that, no no no you don't know what you're talking about you don't use this suit or that gun, but it's not fair to me and I put alot of time and work into it!
This is why it's also important to be flexible and be able to have multiple different suits and capabilities so you can take care of multiple different situations, so do you be a jack of all trades or master of 1? You can't master multiple areas for a long time, I just hit 30 million SP and I have everything in dropsuit upgrades maxed out and a couple weapons with proficiencies and only now am I about to get into other suits and have more flexibility to deal with more situations.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.04 08:56:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:I totally disagree that heavys should ONLY be able to carry a heavy weapon in their heavy weapon slot. What's next? only light weapons in a light slot?? No dual wielding pistols for you!!
Adapt or die.
Seriously, people realize what the actual problems are instead of just trying to sweep them under the rug, why do you want heavy suits to only carry heavy weapons? Well because light weapons are really powerful and heavy suits have alot of HP and...wait...what was that? Light weapons are really powerful huh? more powerful than heavy weapons in alot of cases? hmmmmm, seems like that could be a big problem.
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QRT30
Rave Technologies Inc.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2014.03.04 09:10:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:I personally dont have any problems engaging Heavies atm ,as long as it still takes 1 RE to kill them come 1.8, and if it doesnt ima start flipping office tables.
With the blast resistance (25%) I think one RE is not going to kill my heavy  EDIT [Source]
Even in 1.7 when I use 3 plates on ADV heavy I can survive RE. Remains about 90 HP.
QRT30 - logi
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
1077
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Posted - 2014.03.04 10:54:00 -
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OP you are right in making post telling everyone to stop saying crazy things +1
It's the old logi's are op scheme. You see back in the day when the CK.0 was FOTM everyone blamed all the logi's when it was just 1 that was particularly overpowered. Why are you talking about logi's, its a heavy post. Well here is the deal; A heavy with an HMG is not a threat at all unless he is in his element; it's the heavies with RR/SCR/CR/ETC. that feel overpowered at the moment.
So community please, before saying this suit is overpowered or that thing is overpowered look at it from an objective point of view and repeat after me; Heavies are not op when used with their intended weapon, it's when they ar used with light weapons that they become unbalanced. Thank you.
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:41:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Has there been alot of this going on? I just came on and I instantly saw 3 posts about the issue. I really don't see what the problem is, the HMG is finally better than almost any gun at around 10-15 meters, as it should be, because it's a heavy weapon.
Share your complaints, I'd love to see what people see wrong with a suit that's supposed to take and deal alot of damage.
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