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I-Shayz-I I-----I 2434	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:54:00 - [1] - Quote Sentinel mk.0 Boundless HMG 3x Complex damage mods 2x Complex kin cats With max skills: 488 shield 544 armor 7.35 sprint speed Pros: Kills things instantly Super fast mobility Fast shield regen Cons: No armor regen Still a large hitbox Can be killed with enough alpha damage Just imagine a suicide fitting where you just spawn in and kill everything in your path even if you die in the end after getting 7 kills from the group. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Tectonic Fusion 1156	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:55:00 - [2] - Quote I don't think a proto sentinel can be called a "suicide fit"... EDIT: Woah! It has more armor than shields? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2434	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:57:00 - [3] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I don't think a proto sentinel can be called a "suicide fit"... EDIT: Woah! It has more armor than shields? People throw away proto suits all the time as it is now Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3300	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:58:00 - [4] - Quote I think Commandos with two assault CRs will be a bigger issue. Who needs a HMG when you have an innate 10% damage bonus and two damage mods on top of the highest ROF I know of? No.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2950	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:05:00 - [5] - Quote I'm still debating speccing into Minmatar vs Gallente for sentinel. Either one will be beastly. H M G
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 102	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:05:00 - [6] - Quote Its only strengths will be speed (never knew that before I saw this post), and resisting laser rifle, scrambler rifle, scrambler pistol, assault rifle, shotgun, and whatever new weapons are laser/hybrid blaster. And something I just realized. It will be a very good tank killer. But where are you seeing it resisting explosives? It doesnt say that on the floated thread with dropsuit stats. bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1807	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:07:00 - [7] - Quote If that's OP, you won't want to take a look at the Amarr, Gallente, or Caldari Sentinels. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 102	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:08:00 - [8] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: I think Commandos with two assault CRs will be a bigger issue. Who needs a HMG when you have an innate 10% damage bonus and two damage mods on top of the highest ROF I know of? Amarr Sentinel is going to stare that in the face and laugh. bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2076	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:09:00 - [9] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Can be killed with enough alpha damage So a Scr? "But we have been blessed"
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2950	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:10:00 - [10] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Its only strengths will be speed (never knew that before I saw this post), and resisting laser rifle, scrambler rifle, scrambler pistol, assault rifle, shotgun, and whatever new weapons are laser/hybrid blaster. And something I just realized. It will be a very good tank killer. But where are you seeing it resisting explosives? It doesnt say that on the floated thread with dropsuit stats. Explosive resistance is the all-encompassing sentinel bonus. 5% blast damage decrease per level. H M G

Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 451	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:17:00 - [11] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Explosive resistance is the all-encompassing sentinel bonus. 5% blast damage decrease per level. The generic Sentinel resist bonus is to all kinds of splash damage, not just explosive. That would include things like the plasma cannon and forge gun. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 564	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:29:00 - [12] - Quote Will kill anything it shoots at, but will likely die to anything shooting at it from the side or behind, since its a glass cannon and all. hell most likely will die to an amarr sentinal with 2x damage mods who actualy is brick tanked. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 104	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:30:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah I'm pretty sure explosive damage is different than splash. bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2441	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:32:00 - [14] - Quote Well, dmg mods are being reworked. So If CCP does fix them properly, then in the Minmatar Sentinal will not be OP. What's scary is if they don't change dmg mods at all. The FG and HMG have never seen more then two complex dmg mods this build(I don't know about Crome, cause I never ran a heavy) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2434	Posted - 2014.03.01 05:43:00 - [15] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Well, dmg mods are being reworked. So If CCP does fix them properly, then in the Minmatar Sentinal will not be OP. What's scary is if they don't change dmg mods at all. The FG and HMG have never seen more then two complex dmg mods this build(I don't know about Crome, cause I never ran a heavy) 3 damage mods on a boundless would be like two damage mods on a Gatsun's...and I can kill people from 70+ meters with a gatsun's HMG and two complex damage mods (granted with half the HMG mag) Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 530	Posted - 2014.03.01 06:19:00 - [16] - Quote wont be OP,it has the speed to get to engagements but i dont think it has the EHP to survive them. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3676	Posted - 2014.03.01 06:25:00 - [17] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Will kill anything it shoots at, but will likely die to anything shooting at it from the side or behind, since its a glass cannon and all. hell most likely will die to an amarr sentinal with 2x damage mods who actualy is brick tanked. I don't think you can call a 1000+ hp fast suit with innate damage resistance (including to HMGs) a "glass cannon". An Amarr Sentinel brick-tank is sort of the worst-case scenario of a what this guy might run into, and he'll still be much faster. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3676	Posted - 2014.03.01 06:29:00 - [18] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Yeah I'm pretty sure explosive damage is different than splash. They explicitly stated that explosion damage IS splash damage. Here's a link. Or it might be more accurate to say that explosive weapons are typically only doing splash damage, and thus fall under a "splash" umbrella. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1809	Posted - 2014.03.01 06:31:00 - [19] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Also, NONE of the sentinels will get a resistance to explosive weapons. If you take a direct hit from a mass driver, you'll take full damage. Direct hit, yes. But most of the quick kills for heavies (remotes, locus 'nades, MD Splash) falls under Splash Damage. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2434	Posted - 2014.03.01 08:21:00 - [20] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: wont be OP,it has the speed to get to engagements but i dont think it has the EHP to survive them. So does a scout, yet they can get kills just fine. You run away when things get bad or when you can't handle the situation. That's the idea anyways. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!

Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 426	Posted - 2014.03.01 08:40:00 - [21] - Quote Since i'm going to be following it with min logi and a PRO rep tool,of course it'll be OP. Only users lose drugs. Time wounds all heels.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 579	Posted - 2014.03.01 08:55:00 - [22] - Quote Probably if CCP don't fix H with Lweapon we will see a lot of Cal.Heavy with Railrifle. And thats sad. I want to skill Cal.Heavy for a Forger Fit, but i fear CCP will nerf it sooner or later if the don't limit the Heavy weapon slot to Heavy weapon. Proud HMG SiXKin User.
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 132	Posted - 2014.03.01 09:06:00 - [23] - Quote That's a squishy fit but I do run one similar right now, it works if the other team doesn't run a lot of scanners but if they do it is pretty useless. G0DS AM0NG MEN Director
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2435	Posted - 2014.03.01 09:21:00 - [24] - Quote Meee One wrote: Since i'm going to be following it with min logi and a PRO rep tool,of course it'll be OP. Unless you're shield tanking or running at least one sprint mod the sentinel will be running faster than you lol Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 893	Posted - 2014.03.01 10:08:00 - [25] - Quote Gets resistances to all major ranged weapons. Has the mobility to deploy HMG more effectively Can be fitted for high power long range very easily when called for (FG's?) Shields may not be as good as the armour but it also regens faster than all but the Cal Sentinel and far better than what we're used to on the current Sentinel Personally I'm going to fit it for balanced recovery like I do all my suits. Recharger, Damage mod and Repper at basic Extra Repper at adv Maybe a Complex Shield Extender for Proto but I hate adding to delay so I may switch it up between fits. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2435	Posted - 2014.03.01 11:04:00 - [26] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Personally I'm going to fit it for balanced recovery like I do all my suits. Recharger, Damage mod and Repper at basic Extra Repper at adv Maybe a Complex Shield Extender for Proto but I hate adding to delay so I may switch it up between fits. Another fitting I had in mind was two damage mods and an enhanced energizer, then a sprint mod and a repper. The repper would only be there to keep your armor topped off when your shields go down, and one sprint mod would only lower your run speed to 6.7, which is still a good number for me (it's how fast my minmatar logi currently is). You need at least two damage mods to make the HMG dominate, but the third is only there to give you that extra edge that will actually kill people before they can retaliate too much. However even with a base sprint speed of 5.95, the minmatar heavy just doesn't have the base HP to actually be viable for a total repping fit like my current amarr sentinel, and trying to tank it with plates will just negate the only advantage it had in the first place i.e. speed. Personally I will be running one complex kin cat on it at all times just for the extra jumping and movement capabilities. I'll probably practice tonight with my amarr sentinel. The only problem is that the current shield delays for amarr are 7 and 10, while in 1.8 they will be going down to 4, 5, and 6 seconds depending on the race. That's a HUGE improvement and buff to shield heavies. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!


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