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Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 529	Posted - 2014.02.28 20:55:00 - [1] - Quote "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ My Channel : Valhalla South
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:01:00 - [2] - Quote yes, it still would have been nice to have it at launch for ps4 its a free game, maybe new/more people would have gotten into dust, i know when i bought my first ps3 i couldnt afford anything else so i had to play demos and free crap for about a week till next paycheck http://i40.tinypic.com/33w8wtd.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/29w7g29.jpg Assault Dropship Pilot
Vulcanus Lightbringer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 252	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:08:00 - [3] - Quote I would assume that they want a fully functioning game before transitioning to next-gen.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3846	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:19:00 - [4] - Quote Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote: I would assume that they want a fully functioning game before transitioning to next-gen. ^ this Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1310	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:21:00 - [5] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ and because occulus rift is going to make 'next gen consoles' irrelevant?
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 530	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:29:00 - [6] - Quote I-¦m guessing that we will see those numbers changing in the fourth quarter of this year. Once the big games start to roll in people will bring up they-¦re wallets and buy PS4. I also suspect that Dust will make a move around Christmas time or early 2015. My Channel : Valhalla South
SickJ D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 130	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:32:00 - [7] - Quote Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: ...i know when i bought my first ps3 i couldnt afford anything else so i had to play demos and free crap for about a week till next paycheck In my case, PS4 only has HDMI, so I'd have to get rid of my old component-cable-only TV and spend an extra 200$ on a new monitor. Blue/Green = Good \| Red = Bad \| Yellow = Mine
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 530	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:37:00 - [8] - Quote SickJ wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: ...i know when i bought my first ps3 i couldnt afford anything else so i had to play demos and free crap for about a week till next paycheck In my case, PS4 only has HDMI, so I'd have to get rid of my old component-cable-only TV and spend an extra 200$ on a new monitor. Better late than never? My Channel : Valhalla South
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 276	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:41:00 - [9] - Quote Because there are still not prove DUST like fully finished game and second reason is, there will be bunch of F2P games on ps4 already. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 321	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:41:00 - [10] - Quote low genius wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ and because occulus rift is going to make 'next gen consoles' irrelevant? Star citizen will have occulus support. Omg I'm gonna love that game. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1127	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:42:00 - [11] - Quote you read the newsletter from ccp... they are announcing something at fanfest. this could be it.. ps4 by this time next year i think. plenty of time to iron out the kinks and get it converted "Reveals of whatGÇÖs next for DUST 514 and a world-first hands-on opportunity with its next major evolution" http://www.ccpgames.com/en/home.aspx I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 530	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:49:00 - [12] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Because there are still not prove DUST like fully finished game and second reason is, there will be bunch of F2P games on ps4 already. It has always been clear that CCP moves slowly but surely. We have seen this with EVE in the past 10 years or so.. My Channel : Valhalla South
Asirius Medaius 885	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:55:00 - [13] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ And about 60% of them are "gamers" who play on their smartphone in class... Official "SoonGäó" tutorial: TM ----------> Alt+0153 ----------> Gäó
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 276	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:59:00 - [14] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Because there are still not prove DUST like fully finished game and second reason is, there will be bunch of F2P games on ps4 already. It has always been clear that CCP moves slowly but surely. We have seen this with EVE in the past 10 years or so.. Honestly CCP shangai dont seem clearly slowly and surely atall. I still remember whole setbacks from before and whole that unfinished promises. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1893	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:12:00 - [15] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: you read the newsletter from ccp... they are announcing something at fanfest. this could be it.. ps4 by this time next year i think. plenty of time to iron out the kinks and get it converted "Reveals of whatGÇÖs next for DUST 514 and a world-first hands-on opportunity with its next major evolution" http://www.ccpgames.com/en/home.aspx Likely PC or SteamBox before or along with PS4.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1127	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:15:00 - [16] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: you read the newsletter from ccp... they are announcing something at fanfest. this could be it.. ps4 by this time next year i think. plenty of time to iron out the kinks and get it converted "Reveals of whatGÇÖs next for DUST 514 and a world-first hands-on opportunity with its next major evolution" http://www.ccpgames.com/en/home.aspx Likely PC or SteamBox before or along with PS4. the steam box trial they did will probably be for world of darkness. i don't see a reason for dust to ever go pc or steambox. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 126	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:29:00 - [17] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ Cause CCP said they are LaZeR Focused on the PS3, something about the 80+ MILLION PS3 Sold, so Why do we have an Average of 3000-4000 Players CCP? Then we have the fact that the PS4 Soldout all over the WORLD That could have brought us at least 2-3 Million Players just cause itz F2P. And if U think 3000-4000 Players is a Good Average, all I can say is, look at other FPS games online on the PS3/PS4 , one good eample of numbers is 50000+ in BF4 on the PS3 and 60000+ on the PS4 that is an average of 100,000 - 110,000 all together on the PS3/PS4 CLICK here to see the TRUTH and U won't like it if a FAN BOI BF4 ONLINE PLAYER COUNT Now look at the figures for DUST 514 which is AT LEAST 10x Less as an average compared to BF4 which is a retail game that people paid for DUST 514 Online Player Count LOL I rest my case - EPIC FAIL CCP DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 702	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:30:00 - [18] - Quote i have no major interest in ps4 i feel its going to be a complete waste of money for me. mainly due to the paywall for purchased games. get the game up and running smoothly on ps3 with pve and all that. and make ps3 immortal through dust 514.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 780	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:38:00 - [19] - Quote low genius wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ and because occulus rift is going to make 'next gen consoles' irrelevant? Keep believing that buddy. IF Occulus is as good as you think it will be and not just a gimmick (like I think it will be) Sony will have one out less than a year after Occulus comes to market. Though I doubt a device that can't even get dev kits out because of lack of materials (I'd cite the article where I read that this week if I could remember) is going to make the next generation of consoles irrelevant. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 126	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:40:00 - [20] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: i have no major interest in ps4 i feel its going to be a complete waste of money for me. mainly due to the paywall for purchased games. get the game up and running smoothly on ps3 with pve and all that. and make ps3 immortal through dust 514. OK Fine But please take your time to explain to us why DUST514 has AT LEAST 10x LESS the Player count of a Full Retail Game like BF4 on the PS3 ? In otherwords it should be the opposite, Duste should have 50K players and BF4 on the PS3 should have 3-4K players since DUST is FREE and BF4 is a full retail priced game We are talking about a FREE TO PLAY game, so in theory it should be the other way around, I guess this proves that DUST isn't such a great game afterall, sorry to burst your bubble bub DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 780	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:41:00 - [21] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Because there are still not prove DUST like fully finished game and second reason is, there will be bunch of F2P games on ps4 already. The current F2P games on PS4 are worse than Dust (at least to me) I wish we had Dust as it is running on both, but I also realize that is probably more than CCP could handle. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2952	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:41:00 - [22] - Quote low genius wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ and because occulus rift is going to make 'next gen consoles' irrelevant? I've been reading the Oculus Rift programmers guide and found something very interesting: Quote: Forward and lateral movement In the real world, we most often stand still or move forward. We rarely back up, and we almost never strafe (move side to side). Therefore, forward user movement is most comfortable, and provides depth cues that work together with the stereoscopic depth in the scene. The viewer tends to focus on the center of the scene, which changes evenly and gradually, while the periphery moves more rapidly. Left or right lateral movement is more problematic because we donGÇÖt normally walk sideways and because the viewerGÇÖs focus has to hop from object to object as the scene pans. In general, you should respect the dynamics of human motion. There are limits to how people can move in the real world, and you should take this into account in your designs.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 998	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:42:00 - [23] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ Cause CCP said they are LaZeR Focused on the PS3, something about the 80+ MILLION PS3 Sold, so Why do we have an Average of 3000-4000 Players CCP? Then we have the fact that the PS4 Soldout all over the WORLD That could have brought us at least 2-3 Million Players just cause itz F2P. And if U think 3000-4000 Players is a Good Average, all I can say is, look at other FPS games online on the PS3/PS4 , one good eample of numbers is 50000+ in BF4 on the PS3 and 60000+ on the PS4 that is an average of 100,000 - 110,000 all together on the PS3/PS4 CLICK here to see the TRUTH and U won't like it if a FAN BOI BF4 ONLINE PLAYER COUNT Now look at the figures for DUST 514 which is AT LEAST 10x Less as an average compared to BF4 which is a retail game that people paid for DUST 514 Online Player Count LOL I rest my case - EPIC FAIL CCP The epic fail is your reasoning ability. We have a small active playerbase in a FTP game on a platform with a massive install base. There is only one conclusion to draw from this: DUST's gameplay isn't in a good place yet. Bringing it to another platform won't significantly increase the playerbase because most people who try it will delete it and never want to give it a second chance. Adding that 2nd platform will slow down development by at least a factor of 2, and it will make finding and fixing bugs much harder. Instead, CCP needs to continue to improve the game, finish the core content, resolve performance issues and bugs, make a great NPE, and iron out balancing issues. Once the game is "out of beta," then it makes sense to move to a modern platform. I suspect it will take another 6-9 months, before it will be ready to start porting. When they release on the PS4 (or whatever they go with), the game will be in a decent place, new players won't be scared away, and it may get a new set of reviews along with some marketing. CCP can then sunset the ps3 over time and start to really push the next gen hardware. Best PvE idea ever!
SickJ D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 130	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:42:00 - [24] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: SickJ wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: ...i know when i bought my first ps3 i couldnt afford anything else so i had to play demos and free crap for about a week till next paycheck In my case, PS4 only has HDMI, so I'd have to get rid of my old component-cable-only TV and spend an extra 200$ on a new monitor. Better late than never? Minimum wage is a hell of a drug. Blue/Green = Good \| Red = Bad \| Yellow = Mine
Meknow Intaki 89	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:54:00 - [25] - Quote Dust on the PS3 is a five year beta test for the PS4 =ƒÿü
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4469	Posted - 2014.03.01 00:02:00 - [26] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: low genius wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ and because occulus rift is going to make 'next gen consoles' irrelevant? Keep believing that buddy. IF Occulus is as good as you think it will be and not just a gimmick (like I think it will be) Sony will have one out less than a year after Occulus comes to market. Though I doubt a device that can't even get dev kits out because of lack of materials (I'd cite the article where I read that this week if I could remember) is going to make the next generation of consoles irrelevant. i think VR will steadliy become more mainstream, the tech and desire just isn't there yet. the OR is a cool proof of concept, but we need to see what the market is and how it performs before we can proclaim that it will render consoles irrelavant. the current trend in the games industry is to make things more social, because things are better with friends, the OR as a rather expensive headset is kinda the opposite of that. in other words, you may be right, but give it a generation or two at least. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 240	Posted - 2014.03.01 00:19:00 - [27] - Quote low genius wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: "OVER 90% OF GAMERS DO NOT OWN A GÇÿNEXT-GENGÇÖ CONSOLE" http://videogamedebate.com/2014/02/27/how-many-people-have-ps4-xbox-one/ and because occulus rift is going to make 'next gen consoles' irrelevant? Occulus rift is already obsolete tech. Its just closer to market than all the others. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1220	Posted - 2014.03.01 00:34:00 - [28] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Cause CCP said they are LaZeR Focused on the PS3, something about the 80+ MILLION PS3 Sold, so Why do we have an Average of 3000-4000 Players CCP? Then we have the fact that the PS4 Soldout all over the WORLD That could have brought us at least 2-3 Million Players just cause itz F2P. And if U think 3000-4000 Players is a Good Average, all I can say is, look at other FPS games online on the PS3/PS4 , one good eample of numbers is 50000+ in BF4 on the PS3 and 60000+ on the PS4 that is an average of 100,000 - 110,000 all together on the PS3/PS4 CLICK here to see the TRUTH and U won't like it if a FAN BOI BF4 ONLINE PLAYER COUNT Now look at the figures for DUST 514 which is AT LEAST 10x Less as an average compared to BF4 which is a retail game that people paid for DUST 514 Online Player Count LOL I rest my case - EPIC FAIL CCP For a game that has sold millions upon millions of copies, 50 000 online count seems a little low, don't you think? I find it ironic when people claim this game is dying based on server statistics when they themselves have no clue how the stat tracking works. The thing is, the playercount displayed there only shows the number of people at that one specific moment, not a total of the entire day. People log in for a certain period and then log off at one time, while other people do the same at another time. Even if people logged in for around 6 hours at a time, that'd still at least quadruple the playercount to 18.000. And really, what point is there comparing DUST into BF4? They're different games with different playerbases, and one has a ginormous marketing budget and is backed up by a major publisher while the other doesn't. And last I checked, DUST is still live so it must still be making profit. So what, it doesn't mske millions like the BF franchise does, but why should we care? And as others have said, I'd rather wait for CCP to refine the kinks out of the game before releasing it on another platform than release a half-finished product on a new one in a hasty effort to get new players. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
OgTheEnigma The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 177	Posted - 2014.03.01 01:17:00 - [29] - Quote Battlefield 4 already has the most players on PS4 compared to any other platform: http://bf4stats.com/ (53k on PS4 vs 43k on PS3 at the time of this post). The difference is only going to increase over time as more people transition to the new gen. It's very much in CCP's interest for the long term health of Dust to make the transition sooner rather than later.
Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 684	Posted - 2014.03.01 02:05:00 - [30] - Quote If CCP is in no hurry to clean up their mess and start over on next gen then they must truly be morons.



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