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KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 987	Posted - 2014.02.28 10:40:00 - [1] - Quote I finally bumped into a squad mate that I haven't seen in months. Besides Dust being boring he said he isn't coming back to a game that removes the worth of the skills he pushed to get. Ran as a Heavy, loved it and quit when he had less range than a shotgun. Ah yes, I remember those days. They sucked. Much like the way I am dreading 1.8 and its major fix* for everything that isn't a vehicle. All without refunding SP, at least nothing that has been announced, hinted at nor blogged about. Here is his last paragraph to me: Do I regret my time with Dust? I truly donGÇÖt. It was a really cool concept with a few well thought out mechanics. I met several good friends through it and learned many things. What else did I learn? If you ever make a new, interesting game that relies on a long-term investment and loyal customers, try not to screw them over. * Note that to increase the air flow and thus the vacuum at a point you can restrict it. Odd thing that. And so it goes.
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 470	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:33:00 - [2] - Quote This is like an art project we get to play in while it grows. Props to CCP for the idea and the iterations and the progress. Its a shame they don't have a way to filter what needs done to make a game better from agenda which pushes the game in a direction that benefits only a few. This is not a problem exclusive to DUST514. CCP Logibro is awesome.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2062	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:59:00 - [3] - Quote Wow it actually hurts me to see a heavy go. Maybe when the game gets good he'll pop up again. "But we have been blessed"
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1986	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:06:00 - [4] - Quote this one time at band camp....
Ripley Riley 732	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:12:00 - [5] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: I finally bumped into a squad mate that I haven't seen in months. Besides Dust being boring he said he isn't coming back to a game that removes the worth of the skills he pushed to get. Ran as a Heavy, loved it and quit when he had less range than a shotgun. Ah yes, I remember those days. They sucked. Much like the way I am dreading 1.8 and its major fix* for everything that isn't a vehicle. All without refunding SP, at least nothing that has been announced, hinted at nor blogged about. I won't dispute that Dust is sometimes boring, but it's F2P, just switch to another game for a while and come back if you start getting bored. I'm playing Farcry 3 and Banished until 1.8 comes out myself. We don't know one way or another if we are getting an SP refund. Don't count it out just yet. What heavy weapon has an effective range shorter than a shotgun? Shotguns have an optimal of 5m... 9m at PRO levels, IICR. KalOfTheRathi wrote: Do I regret my time with Dust? I truly donGÇÖt. It was a really cool concept with a few well thought out mechanics. I met several good friends through it and learned many things. What else did I learn? If you ever make a new, interesting game that relies on a long-term investment and loyal customers, try not to screw them over. How was your friend screwed over exactly? Did he feel that heavies were underpowered in some way? Because as of 1.7 heavies are one of the most effective ways to destroy a HAV and an HMG is a powerhouse of an anti-infantry weapon... 1.8 is bringing the rest of the heavy dropsuits too so there is that to look forward to as a heavy. I think your friend is over exaggerating his frustration a little... "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1367	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:15:00 - [6] - Quote Oh well, they're building a monument! Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3633	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:22:00 - [7] - Quote Over a year ago now, I sent people recruit links to Dust and told them they could get passive "experience" even if they weren't playing. I told them I'm let them know when the game cleaned up a bit. People can play other things. It costs us nothing to keep our accounts active. I don't mean that mediocrity is awesome because of that, but I feel bad for anyone that feels they need to constantly show dedication to Dust even if a build is having large issues. Or rather, I'm mystified that some people appear to do so. March will see the South Park RPG, Dark Souls 2, and Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes released. That's just me too, I'm sure other people have things coming out they'd like. I'll be playing all of those. I find that issues in Dust are less frustrating if you're not as invested in the day to day. As far as I'm concerned, it's still in beta, it just got a new producer, and they're going to try to turn it around. That's great. I look forward to the day I can mention to my friends with untouched accounts and 9 million (around there, to-date) sp that the game seems pretty "done" and they should give it a shot. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Vag Eye Lenol Council of Planetary Management 42	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:02:00 - [8] - Quote Yup, op, same goes for.my buddy that got me playing this game, he spent a valuable amount.of time only to be "screwed" in his opinion that his heavy broke. Although I would like the staff recruiter stuff, it's hard to convince people to play the game And I also agree that that it's still Beta considering content, changes and lack there of. Although there are many games out there that have got the basics right, as in being able to spawn in at base and being "safe" until your u started game play. Yesterday it was spawn in at base 20 ft away from an enemy tank. I really hope 1.8 comes sooner than later so I can at least have less to complain about.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 992	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:14:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Wow it actually hurts me to see a heavy go. Maybe when the game gets good he'll pop up again. He ain't coming back. Sick of dust and getting yanked around. He has found another game. So ... gone. I have ~25% of the players I used to squad with. And most of them only play a little bit now and then. Versus capping out each week and playing matches to get their 1500SP per battle. And so it goes.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 992	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:15:00 - [10] - Quote calisk galern wrote: this one time at band camp.... I didn't know Burgess ETF had flute players, but whatever floats your boat. And so it goes.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 992	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:27:00 - [11] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: ... happy friends because they don't play dust, they only collect passive SP ... They have no intention of turning it around, you silly Dust Bunny. The only reason I play is because I still have some friends that play. That is the only reason to play Dust, cause everything it is supposed to be is still fundamentally broken. An FPS where guns don't always shoot, has horrible hit detection, significant lag, slow network architecture designed around a point and click space pirate game with the final caveat that they expect you to play for 7 years to fill out the Skill Tree. So they can yank it out from under you. Fun guys. Remember that corporate motto is HTFU. Which means Hose The F*ing Users. And so it goes.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 992	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:41:00 - [12] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: ... snip ... We don't know one way or another if we are getting an SP refund. Don't count it out just yet. ... snip ... I think your friend is over exaggerating his frustration a little... SP reset/refund rumors are just hot air until there is an official posted on the web site, not just an IRC comment, nor a Tweet from some random twit. Until then ... it is a waste of bandwidth. On his frustration being exaggerated: Really? He isn't playing. He has FPSs to play that work. I love the fact that the most consistent stick with Dust suggestion is to play a different game. And so it goes.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 398	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:50:00 - [13] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: How was your friend screwed over exactly? Did he feel that heavies were underpowered in some way? Because as of 1.7 heavies are one of the most effective ways to destroy a HAV and an HMG is a powerhouse of an anti-infantry weapon... 1.8 is bringing the rest of the heavy dropsuits too so there is that to look forward to as a heavy. I think your friend is over exaggerating his frustration a little... Not really a selling point when it's in that position only because everything else AV got dropkicked in the jaw. 32db Mad Bomber.

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