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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 799	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:33:00 - [1] - Quote They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right Plasma Cannons performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
noobsniper the 2nd Caldari Loyalists Legion 181	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:36:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah its pretty dumb but it sure is fun to stab proto bitches with knives lol just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw
The Attorney General 2303	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote I play PC every day. If you think PC is for farming K/D you could not be more wrong. If I was only pubbing my K/D would be 4 or 5 times higher. Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. At least PC is full of people who actually want to win, not sit in the redline to get their SP. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 390	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:38:00 - [4] - Quote They'd probably be playing PC if it wasn't for the Districts being locked, and if FW had team deploy and a larger incentive to play it in the first place they'd probably be playing there too. Yesterday all but 10 Districts were under attack / locked, those 10 that were open were probably PFC districts. FW isn't rewarding enough, winning a battle for your desired faction doesn't give enough LP, and you aren't paid based on your performance, you're paid just for being there. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4716	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:42:00 - [5] - Quote Not every PC player is a cheating bastard, and believe me that there is much risk in a genuine PC match I won't excuse those who abuse the system, however saying that there is no risk for those who play a honest match is very......iffy. You can actually lose more ISK than you make in a single match due to their difficulty. Hopefully they fix PC so these 'stompers' can get out of your hair. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 242	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:46:00 - [6] - Quote Want to experience PC for yourself? Join TEAM LOKUN and get your foot in the door as we become the best place to recruit PC ringers. As an organization we don't own districts, but we help them switch hands. Tired of big name corps raking in cheddar? Then join us, practice, and take it from them. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 799	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:47:00 - [7] - Quote I have no issue with guys earning ISK in PC But at this stage it's common knowledge there has been a lot of exploiting And there is no evidence on CCP taking any action against anyone... Don't get me wrong, I respect the decent PC players.... But CCP surely has the data to know who those decent players are And punish the ones who gained unfair advantage .... Yet nothing has been done, is this acceptable ?? Plasma Cannons performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 447	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:49:00 - [8] - Quote yes a majority of PC corps are still locking districts, but as said not every PC player is an exploiter.I like players that only do PC instead of those corps that just FOTM stomp pubs and never get involved in PC. even though i can't really blame them, PC is just those who use the best FOTM. no skill really involved. also, disconnects. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1711	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:51:00 - [9] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: I play PC every day. If you think PC is for farming K/D you could not be more wrong. If I was only pubbing my K/D would be 4 or 5 times higher. Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. At least PC is full of people who actually want to win, not sit in the redline to get their SP. This, if worried about kdr then PC is not for you. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7685	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:54:00 - [10] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum

The Attorney General 2314	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:55:00 - [11] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: PC is just those who use the best FOTM. no skill really involved. Well that is BS. If every one is running the same FOTM fits, than skill is what decides who wins. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 93	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:55:00 - [12] - Quote If we actually took the time to train some of these new guys, maybe we wouldn't have this problem now, would we? Because then people might actually have some fun in public matches, and we wouldn't look at PC players as just Farming and stealing districts, etc. Personally I'm against PC but for Corp Matches. But training new people would improve the game. Instead of improve the system, train the new people in the game, make them better, and then have some fun with some competent blue dots instead of guys that just run around dumbfounded. No I'm not a trainer. i'm off the game for a couple months, but I come back to check forums daily. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 799	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:56:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. One guy owns up to it at least +1 Plasma Cannons performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7688	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:03:00 - [14] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: True Adamance wrote: TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. One guy owns up to it at least +1 I'm not a PC player, but I certainly don't blame them, it is what it is, a hole in which the developers that allowed the rich to become richer, and the poor to remain stomped. But then again that is the law of New Eden, and we live by that in EVE the same as we must in Dust. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 799	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:06:00 - [15] - Quote Excellent, this game is definitely going places... When CCP are basically rewarding guys for cheating Thanks for info, spoken Truly Plasma Cannons performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 829	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:10:00 - [16] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Excellent, this game is definitely going places... When CCP are basically rewarding guys for cheating Thanks for info, spoken Truly I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you don't play EVE nor know anything about it. Am I right? *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
The Attorney General 2321	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:13:00 - [17] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Excellent, this game is definitely going places... When CCP are basically rewarding guys for cheating Thanks for info, spoken Truly What is your beef? Is your wallet light? Playing pubs is cheating because of how bad the players are. It is just free ISK and SP. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18950	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:16:00 - [18] - Quote welcome to new eden... ccp will just laugh at this thread. A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked. Such is the cycle of life. My like count = respec petition.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1712	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:29:00 - [19] - Quote So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
The Attorney General 2325	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:32:00 - [20] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 244	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:51:00 - [21] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. That's gunna get a lot harder with TEAM LOKUN around. Join TEAM LOKUN today, and build our active player roster. All you have to do is join the channel. We will squad up and stick it to those proto stompers boots ( REs that is ) ( burning brown bags full of REs all over those proto stompers door steps! ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 800	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:56:00 - [22] - Quote Do what you like, I am just asking why this was allowed to happen I don't have any problem with guys Fighting PC battles, I am sure they are sweetest victory's in Dust If you have actively played PC battles and fought for it then good Constantly hearing guys talk of farming, really discredits the game As some gamers enjoy competition, others enjoy gaining an unfair advantage True Adamance has summed up what I wanted to know so I see no point arguing again, I in no way discredit PC players, but have no respect for the ones 'cheating' Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 95	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:01:00 - [23] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Yeah its pretty dumb but it sure is fun to stab proto bitches with knives lol lol i have a raven assualt bpo 4 u if bpos become up 4 trade Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 95	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:04:00 - [24] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right ** This post is aimed at the guys who exploited PC not PC players in general I in no way discredit PC players, but have no respect for the ones 'cheating' i haven't really participated in or cared about pc since the cronos war destroyed pc 4 me Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 1155	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:08:00 - [25] - Quote I good sir, am going to not care............. right............. about................. now. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 213	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:12:00 - [26] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic Actually, I don't think he's complaining about people that are actually playing and fighting in PC. It looks to me like he's complaining about the people that are isk farming via perpetually locked districts. But I could be wrong.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 541	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:16:00 - [27] - Quote PC is the best part of this game, IMO -- even in its broken state. It has the best players and the best teamwork and the most on the line. And, FWIW, our corp has a few PC battles every week.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3044	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:21:00 - [28] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right ** This post is aimed at the guys who exploited PC not PC players in general I in no way discredit PC players, but have no respect for the ones 'cheating' What a vague and terrible post.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 801	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:32:00 - [29] - Quote Yeah, it wasn't a well thought out post but I wanted an opinion on this Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 875	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:42:00 - [30] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: I play PC every day. If you think PC is for farming K/D you could not be more wrong. If I was only pubbing my K/D would be 4 or 5 times higher. Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. At least PC is full of people who actually want to win, not sit in the redline to get their SP. ** man I START in starter fits. You guys keep running around in your proto I dont care. I'm making isk the best way I can. I'm not one of these people that can always play every day so I make do with what I have. I used to use proto sometimes in the past but the game was a lot different back then. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB** For the STATE!

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3628	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:43:00 - [31] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Why are the 'cheating' PC players condoned Because of their winning personalities. Have you met any PC players? They're witty and urbane fellows. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 631	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:44:00 - [32] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: I play PC every day. If you think PC is for farming K/D you could not be more wrong. If I was only pubbing my K/D would be 4 or 5 times higher. Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. At least PC is full of people who actually want to win, not sit in the redline to get their SP. Been far too long since I've done a PC. I miss the thrill. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18967	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:45:00 - [33] - Quote Am I cheating because I have billions of isk? A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked. Such is the cycle of life. My like count = respec petition.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3628	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:46:00 - [34] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Am I cheating because I have billions of isk? You're OP because of your likes. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18967	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:48:00 - [35] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Am I cheating because I have billions of isk? You're OP because of your likes. I am not op, Tacos are OP. A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked. Such is the cycle of life. My like count = respec petition.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1393	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:54:00 - [36] - Quote Most of the Vet's where still logging on every day in DUST looking forward to PC.. Its what kept Most of those corporation numbers active... Without PC a majority of vet's would just stop logging onto DUST. This district locking hurts CCP's player counts as much as it hurts everyone... A game mode where all 32 mercenaries are trying to win... with strategy and tactics.. using full maps.. Isn't for farming KD/R SP or even ISK as most people will loose more ISK then PC will provide... until districts are left un contested for long periods of time then wages can be handed out. PC in it's current state hurts all of DUST. and directly effects activity numbers.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1345	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:55:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. those that do are lacking in anymoral fiber are you defending these scrubs? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1718	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:02:00 - [38] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic Actually, I don't think he's complaining about people that are actually playing and fighting in PC. It looks to me like he's complaining about the people that are isk farming via perpetually locked districts. But I could be wrong. Which would be everyone at this point.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 378	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:18:00 - [39] - Quote Hm... PC players are cheaters and MDR/ISK farmers because they die A LOT more in PCs than Pubs, lose money or barely earn money because of how much proto is involved in one match (many will die a lot to secure the win), and chose to play a gamemode that actually has players that shoot back and have all proto gear to compete with you... * gasp * what KD padders Pub players are not cheaters and KDR/ISK farmers because they totally are not playing a gamemode where many enemies barely fire back or even know what they are doing in MLT suits, quick and easy money, faster SP gain, and pub players are totally not using exploits like some players do in PC. Point is, the OP post seems to be from a "I have never even seen a PC match" perspective. When it comes to district locking... Yeah! Ban them all! It is not like all the PC corps hate it and find it very boring and some even warned CCP way ahead of time about the glitch! Banning ALL corps involved in district locking is wrong because a corp's action does not equal all players in the corp performing that action. Plus not the mention that banning everyone would cut Dust's active player base insanely. CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
Patrick57 5555	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:46:00 - [40] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. That's gunna get a lot harder with TEAM LOKUN around. Join TEAM LOKUN today, and build our active player roster. All you have to do is join the channel. We will squad up and stick it to those proto stompers boots ( REs that is ) ( burning brown bags full of REs all over those proto stompers door steps! ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread Seriously, **** out of GD with your recruiting. I go negative in PC, yay

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 245	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:59:00 - [41] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. That's gunna get a lot harder with TEAM LOKUN around. Join TEAM LOKUN today, and build our active player roster. All you have to do is join the channel. We will squad up and stick it to those proto stompers boots ( REs that is ) ( burning brown bags full of REs all over those proto stompers door steps! ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread Seriously, **** out of GD with your recruiting. Lol, ok mate. I am just excited to be personally driving an initiative and hosting a tournie. I guess maybe I did overdo it a touch. FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 304	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:23:00 - [42] - Quote When the goons went to far with rigging the fw lp store eve side ccp took their ill gotten gains from them. This situation is worse. It's ruining things for everyone but the few who hold locked districts. I don't blame the guys doing it. The blame lands on ccp Perhaps all those with insane amounts of isk could find some poor noobs to give some isk to. Nice to give back after all that stomping. And no I don't mean me. Though many call me a noob I'm at 21 mill sp by now. my name is boba and im a hoarder.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1783	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:43:00 - [43] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. What happens? People play with free suits that have maybe >10k isk worth of stuff slapped on (if even that) and go horribly negative because they're just trying to get the match over and done with. They might also leave the match if they're kdr padding protostompers or they might also just MCC spin if they want to deny you kills. PC has been broken since day 1 and has done nothing save made the playerbase smaller and smaller while encouraging behavior that promotes protostomping and circlejerk farming. The only people who don't have a problem with PC are the PC farmers themselves Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Patrick57 5558	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:50:00 - [44] - Quote [quote=Alaika Arbosa]What happens? People play with free suits that have maybe >10k isk worth of stuff slapped on (if even that) and go horribly negative because they're just trying to get the match over and done with. They might also leave the match if they're kdr padding protostompers or they might also just MCC spin if they want to deny you kills. PC has been broken since day 1 and has done nothing save made the playerbase smaller and smaller while encouraging behavior that promotes protostomping and circlejerk farming./quote] I'm pretty sure this is the point he was trying to get across.... I go negative in PC, yay
Medrean Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 0	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:18:00 - [45] - Quote >proto in PC >not using adv gear and still placing first on your team Its too bad my side was full of scrubs
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1783	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:26:00 - [46] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: What happens? People play with free suits that have maybe >10k isk worth of stuff slapped on (if even that) and go horribly negative because they're just trying to get the match over and done with. They might also leave the match if they're kdr padding protostompers or they might also just MCC spin if they want to deny you kills. PC has been broken since day 1 and has done nothing save made the playerbase smaller and smaller while encouraging behavior that promotes protostomping and circlejerk farming. I'm pretty sure this is the point he was trying to get across.... I took it as a threat of them pubstomping, tbh, idgaf, I run mostly free suits anyway, 1500 isk suits I should say. Extra credit if you can tell what is on them that costs me 1500 isk. Oh, yeah, I fixed your quote. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Patrick57 5567	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:28:00 - [47] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Extra credit if you can tell what is on them that costs me 1500 isk. Combat Rifle :D I go negative in PC, yay
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 447	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:09:00 - [48] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: PC is just those who use the best FOTM. no skill really involved. Well that is BS. If every one is running the same FOTM fits, than skill is what decides who wins. i don't think so. its whoever sees who first. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1758	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:27:00 - [49] - Quote You're all talking of PC. But, hell, it's at least one month that the vast majority of corps locks their own districts. Just try to be true with yourselves, many people here claimed that they want good fights, still all the districts are locked. And when I say all I mean every single district in Molden Heath, hell even PFC is locked. >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 157	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:29:00 - [50] - Quote i would play PC if i could fight for more than what is currently going on. a little corner in molden heath with no effect on planetary interaction eve side is just kind of a gimmick. the reward is a lot of drama without any effect on null space where the real sandbox is. but since planetary interaction is kind of weak in eve there's no point in fighting for planets- the eve player would be wiser to just surrender it, so i was once told. they seemed to have scrapped that idea that we would once boost planetary productions for eve players and they in turn would use those productions to equip us making a dependence loop. PC was a bandaid to a cry of more content and that cry has come back louder this time. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2989	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:31:00 - [51] - Quote If anything PC has too much skill. There are small groups of players that dominate the participation in PC and they are crazy good. There's a LOT of people who get thrashed by them in PC and quit PC altogether. I enjoy the idea of PC more than I like actually playing it. The highs are great, but man the lows are tough. Drama from getting thrashed in PC has taken down a lot of corps. When you start heavily investing yourself into PC operations the stress level is pretty high. There have been high profile corps dissolve within a week when losses began to pile up. PC has a lot of flaws, but you are crazy if you think PC land lacks skill. There are some teams out there that can throw down in an impressive manner. But I think the good teams put in a little more work and attention to detail than most corps are willing to commit to. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Spartacus Dust The-Legionnaires The CORVOS 157	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:35:00 - [52] - Quote District Locking and Passive income are lame. But PC is more competitive than PUB matches by 100%. Not to mention PC players get to hone their teamwork down on a larger level. Most people in pub matches shoot the ****, in PC everyone is quiet except the Field Commander and a few helpful bits of information from those under their command. The game is broken, but that's why myself and a lot of the other candidates stand strongly on fixing PC mechanics and making it better. Twitter @Matthew_Dust Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 101	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:50:00 - [53] - Quote Maybe if Corporational battles were reintroduced people could actually have some fun without all the politics and drama that holding a district entails. Idk about y'all but I think betting on a battle for your side to win would be much more fun than fighting PC, or at the very least better than having to fight the small pool of people that do PC on a regular basis (IE AE,TP,FA,NS,RS, ML, and the like.) Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Spartacus Dust The-Legionnaires The CORVOS 158	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:54:00 - [54] - Quote Corp battles do need to come back, they were the ****. Twitter @Matthew_Dust Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 101	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:55:00 - [55] - Quote I'm not bashing PC Players I'm just saying PC is broken right now and no districts are attackable, Posing that PC is only limitied to a select few players, and that Smaller corps should be able to engage in the same scale type battle with someone in their league. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1333	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:59:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. its not that they can't. They won't. They are lazy and incompetent. Who wants some?
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3010	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:16:00 - [57] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: PC is just those who use the best FOTM. no skill really involved. Well that is BS. If every one is running the same FOTM fits, than skill is what decides who wins. I think the point here is that if you aren't skilled into those specific FOTM fits, you can't really compete... regardless of skill level. I don't think that's entirely accurate, but there is certainly truth there. If you're the kinda guy who likes to skill into more varied and "interesting" things, rather than funnel all your SP into min/maxing, you're just not likely to do that well in PC.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3010	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:19:00 - [58] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: PC is the best part of this game, IMO -- even in its broken (i.e. locked-down) state. It has the best players and the best teamwork and the most on the line. And, FWIW, our corp has a few PC battles every week. Lastly, and to the OP's point, the reality of the broken PC mechanic is that only a few individuals are reaping significant rewards by farming -- and I suspect that number is far smaller than the OP thinks....and certainly not enough to warrant the generalizations in the opening of this thread. Said a bit differently, I can afford to run Proto 100% of the time not because we lock down our 10 districts, but rather because I've been playing this game for a long time and I have over 100M ISK and nothing to do with it. I gain virtually nothing by the actions of my corp. Respectfully...Leadfoot Wait, you have 10 districts but your corp has a few PC battles every week... that doesn't seem to add up. Is PC really that dead at this point?
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 459	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:22:00 - [59] - Quote I play on average 4-6 PC battles a day. Own 0 districts. Still making that isk. The life of a true mercenary. -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 49	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:34:00 - [60] - Quote Perhaps he would be refering to the fact that corps like... just gonna throw a 100% random name out there... say, Escrow Removal and Acquisition, in a few days they will be making about 160 mil isk a day.. for a corp that has 15 members... 17 districts all locked... 15 members.. G0DS AM0NG MEN Director - Fully Support a Respec for 1.8

TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5880	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:59:00 - [61] - Quote "If I can do it in game, the devs must have intended on it being a feature" - Every PC corp leader. Never forget More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
Canari Elphus Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1229	Posted - 2014.02.28 05:16:00 - [62] - Quote Anybody can farm ISK in this game, not just PC players. Step #1 - start throwaway alt Step #2 - keep alt's suits to under 5k each Step #3 - run only ambushes and make 25mil ISK a week I wanted to see what the NPE was like so I started an alt from scratch and didnt squad up with anyone during the whole time. In about 8-9 days, he was at 110k WP, had about a 1.8 KDR (while dealing with tankbush) and made 27mil ISK. Canari Elphus for CPM1
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1817	Posted - 2014.02.28 05:18:00 - [63] - Quote The majority of PC is FarmVille now. Collect clones, sell, buy proto, stomp. That's what the vast majority of "PC" Corps end up doing. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Spartacus Dust The-Legionnaires The CORVOS 164	Posted - 2014.02.28 07:27:00 - [64] - Quote Good on him for exploiting people, the real problem is everyone else who "Can't compete" are too lazy or cheap or whatever to tell all their members to donate/raise taxes, so they can hire FA or someone to get a district for them, then they can lock it themselves once they own the district and join the passive income club. Twitter @Matthew_Dust Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 5111	Posted - 2014.02.28 07:33:00 - [65] - Quote I'd hardly call it cheating if: a) The system is working exactly as designed, just being used in an unintended way b) There has been no 100% official confirmation that PC District Locking (which is what I assume you're talking about) is an exploit c) It has persisted for going on nine months now. I'm of the opinion that players shouldn't be punished for finding chinks in the armor. Fill the hole, fix the problem - don't take it out on the players. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3010	Posted - 2014.02.28 08:56:00 - [66] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I'd hardly call it cheating if: a) The system is working exactly as designed, just being used in an unintended way b) There has been no 100% official confirmation that PC District Locking (which is what I assume you're talking about) is an exploit c) It has persisted for going on nine months now. I'm of the opinion that players shouldn't be punished for finding chinks in the armor. Fill the hole, fix the problem - don't take it out on the players. I 100% agree. This is not something that can be placed on the shoulders of the players, it is definitely CCP's fault. That doesn't mean it isn't completely and ridiculously broken, just that you can't blame players for taking advantage of a completely trash mechanic.
Beld Errmon 0uter.Heaven 1407	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:51:00 - [67] - Quote Locking districts is bad, but what I find truly repulsive are the corps like warravens who actively farm alts to make isk in the PC battles and advertise it internally as "Isk farming" matches, dunno how many district holding corporations are doing this so i'll stick to naming the one I know for sure who is. What really disgusts me is that CCP takes no action and no doubt few in the corps that have exploited this have had the moral fortitude to actually blow the whistle on this crap.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 626	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:53:00 - [68] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: I play PC every day. If you think PC is for farming K/D you could not be more wrong. If I was only pubbing my K/D would be 4 or 5 times higher. Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. At least PC is full of people who actually want to win, not sit in the redline to get their SP. I guess the OP is not referring to those who actually play PC to play competitive matches but more to those who make fake battles with alt corps to lock their districts or farm SP. Have you seen the WTF vid?
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 884	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:55:00 - [69] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I'd hardly call it cheating if: a) The system is working exactly as designed, just being used in an unintended way b) There has been no 100% official confirmation that PC District Locking (which is what I assume you're talking about) is an exploit c) It has persisted for going on nine months now. I'm of the opinion that players shouldn't be punished for finding chinks in the armor. Fill the hole, fix the problem - don't take it out on the players. Just to inject some other thinking here.... So its fine then when people like WTF (Who uploaded a youtube video of this) farm PC matches with their alt corp and gain like 250 thousand + Skillpoints in one match when the 3x sp event was on? That's totally unfair for the rest of us that have to grind bit by bit for days and weeks. I am not saying I have the answers but CCP should be hotfixing and patching these kind of things up ASAP. Not leaving these same problems to linger for months and months on end. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Marc Rime 297	Posted - 2014.02.28 12:59:00 - [70] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. Well, more than two proto suits means you're losing ISK on that battle. Players without a PC ISK printer can't sustain that.

Beld Errmon 0uter.Heaven 1407	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:01:00 - [71] - Quote What they aren't telling us straight out is they've had their staff cut and don't actually have the ability to fix the problem, last word on this I saw was a Dev saying CCP nullabor might be able to look at it when he visits.... screams budget cuts and internal transfers to me. Aeon, you've got very loose morals if you consider this issue anything but cheating and exploiting.
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 513	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:04:00 - [72] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. Hummmm Tech Guard Recruiting Spot
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2311	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:12:00 - [73] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: The majority of PC is FarmVille now. Collect clones, sell, buy proto, stomp. That's what the vast majority of "PC" Corps end up doing. Yep PC a total Farm Fest... Just spent 2-3 hours Flipping a Research and Cargo back to back. STFU before I actually start going into pubs with stacked squads of NF, and thus giving you something legitimate to QQ about. Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 886	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:18:00 - [74] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: The majority of PC is FarmVille now. Collect clones, sell, buy proto, stomp. That's what the vast majority of "PC" Corps end up doing. Yep PC a total Farm Fest... Just spent 2-3 hours Flipping a Research and Cargo back to back. STFU before I actually start going into pubs with stacked squads of NF, and thus giving you something legitimate to QQ about. Hey man, I dont know you but I have heard for a long time that you are a good player. You dont have to be so aggressive and negative all the time. I think people would respect you more if you just let your actions do the talking. By the way - if you were to start bringing your proto squads and proto teams into matches, I think you would soon find that everyone would just back out of the match. So in actuality you would only be going up against new players who didn't know any better. (That's not good for the game and I dont think that is what you want either?) I respect what you and your team can accomplish but you must remember, a lot of players just play for fun. We are not competitive players and certainly dont have the practised tactics that some of you PC guys do. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 55	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:24:00 - [75] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. Not even an economy-breaking ISK farm, eh?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 815	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:30:00 - [76] - Quote These guys boast of being cheats, or just taking advantage And then threaten to invade the Pub servers like we are going to care Do what you like, the game is full of scrubs having to use an advantage against others And from what I hear the Ego boosted Reg is one of the worst Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 815	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:39:00 - [77] - Quote I can't keep looking at this, and seeing that these scrubs are happy with themselves Dust may never recover from the damage these guys are doing, we need to see that That say BPO's break the economy??? LOL These guys farm ISK all week, share it out to like-minded scrubs .. And thats allowed continue as it's good for economy ???? Thanks to the players replying, that don't approve of this Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
The Attorney General 2378	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:33:00 - [78] - Quote I didn't know about the WTF video until you brought it up, and that is exploiting. Report them and see what CCP does. Beyond that, there are people who actually play PC, along with the the lock ups. Would I like it if everyone unlocked hteir districts so we could have a throw down? Sure, but I can't really do that by myself. PC needs a total rework to not be exploitable. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Canari Elphus Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1232	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:36:00 - [79] - Quote Maybe people would be more apt to have a conversation with you if you were somewhat approachable about it. Instead, you are just going on rants and calling people cheaters and exploiters. I love how my comment about non-PC players being able to easily farm ISK with an alt was completely passed over because it didnt fit with your agenda. Things such as PVE and an open market will give non-PC players valid ways to farm tons of ISK as well. Canari Elphus for CPM1
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1784	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:44:00 - [80] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Maybe people would be more apt to have a conversation with you if you were somewhat approachable about it. Instead, you are just going on rants and calling people cheaters and exploiters. I love how my comment about non-PC players being able to easily farm ISK with an alt was completely passed over because it didnt fit with your agenda. Things such as PVE and an open market will give non-PC players valid ways to farm tons of ISK as well. Massive difference being that PvE'ers will need to "work for it" and PC just hands it out hand over fist. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 188	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:44:00 - [81] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Want to experience PC for yourself? Join TEAM LOKUN and get your foot in the door as we become the best place to recruit PC ringers. As an organization we don't own districts, but we help them switch hands. Tired of big name corps raking in cheddar? Then join us, practice, and take it from them. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread bump Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
NF Travel Agent Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 21	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:59:00 - [82] - Quote Yes pc is Challenge and there are only a few corps. A tool that may help is the new Negative Feedback Program purchase a regular district a pfc district or pay for an attack on a district for your corp. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=143709&find=unread for me details acquire withing this link and thank you for choosing nf reality for your district desires. All sales are finnaly nf is not responsible for district losses outside of pfc all information will be handles in game. -¬Gäó Contact in game to buy a district or register .
Asirius Medaius 881	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:15:00 - [83] - Quote Why all the hate? I have played about 6 total PC matches, and our old corp never distributed ISK from those districts, yet I still have 110 million isk. I will always have trouble spending all of this long-earned ISK, because frankly, having all the ISK in New Eden still doesn't make new content get produced any faster so you can spend it. Official "SoonGäó" tutorial: TM ----------> Alt+0153 ----------> Gäó
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2941	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:28:00 - [84] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: They'd probably be playing PC if it wasn't for the Districts being locked, and if FW had team deploy and a larger incentive to play it in the first place they'd probably be playing there too. Yesterday all but 10 Districts were under attack / locked, those 10 that were open were probably PFC districts. FW isn't rewarding enough, winning a battle for your desired faction doesn't give enough LP, and you aren't paid based on your performance, you're paid just for being there. ummmm.... no lots of them tried PC at 1 time or another, and quickly realized it was a COMPLETELY different game and atmosphere than a pub. but yes... IF FW had a financial incentive we might still see some good games there. When FW was first revamped every night were Qsync good fights... after only a couple weeks most ppl disappeared or the good fights became a rarity because just what AG said.. ppl runnin starter fits and not even trying. FW is better, but I fully agree still needs some tweaking. but randoms in PC.. lulz. gotta have some stones to ever think about it, and come out from under the 'I HaZ No Isk' rock and set up a financial plan that funds your corp. lots of small corps have had decent runs in PC and didn't 'go broke' but the little guy tears are worth collecting You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 817	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:51:00 - [85] - Quote This is not regarding PC battles in general... Just asking why guys got away with ''farming'' it.... To All the defensive AE posters, you guys must have used every exploit you could find Seen as your are so quick to defend yourselves, and post un-related replies Good for you if you played PC, and did well.... But the guys exploiting Have delayed production while it gets fixed so that effects the whole playerbase Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 5118	Posted - 2014.02.28 20:28:00 - [86] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I'd hardly call it cheating if: a) The system is working exactly as designed, just being used in an unintended way b) There has been no 100% official confirmation that PC District Locking (which is what I assume you're talking about) is an exploit c) It has persisted for going on nine months now. I'm of the opinion that players shouldn't be punished for finding chinks in the armor. Fill the hole, fix the problem - don't take it out on the players. Just to inject some other thinking here.... So its fine then when people like WTF (Who uploaded a youtube video of this) farm PC matches with their alt corp and gain like 250 thousand + Skillpoints in one match when the 3x sp event was on? That's totally unfair for the rest of us that have to grind bit by bit for days and weeks. I am not saying I have the answers but CCP should be hotfixing and patching these kind of things up ASAP. Not leaving these same problems to linger for months and months on end. Hey, not like the option isn't available to you. Grab up a PC district, lock that ***** up and farm away Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 820	Posted - 2014.02.28 20:34:00 - [87] - Quote The option shouldn't be there for anyone... Make all the ISK you like if earning it But some gamers play for enjoyment, not to use unfair advantages As that takes away from the enjoyment... unless of course you are a scrub Plasma Cannon performs its suppresion/area denial role perfectly Pity dust players only perform one role - slaying


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