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Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3628	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:43:00 - [31] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Why are the 'cheating' PC players condoned Because of their winning personalities. Have you met any PC players? They're witty and urbane fellows. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 631	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:44:00 - [32] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: I play PC every day. If you think PC is for farming K/D you could not be more wrong. If I was only pubbing my K/D would be 4 or 5 times higher. Pubs are boring because most of the people who play this game have no heart. They die twice and out comes the starter fits. At least PC is full of people who actually want to win, not sit in the redline to get their SP. Been far too long since I've done a PC. I miss the thrill. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18967	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:45:00 - [33] - Quote Am I cheating because I have billions of isk? A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked. Such is the cycle of life. My like count = respec petition.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3628	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:46:00 - [34] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Am I cheating because I have billions of isk? You're OP because of your likes. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18967	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:48:00 - [35] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Am I cheating because I have billions of isk? You're OP because of your likes. I am not op, Tacos are OP. A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked. Such is the cycle of life. My like count = respec petition.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1393	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:54:00 - [36] - Quote Most of the Vet's where still logging on every day in DUST looking forward to PC.. Its what kept Most of those corporation numbers active... Without PC a majority of vet's would just stop logging onto DUST. This district locking hurts CCP's player counts as much as it hurts everyone... A game mode where all 32 mercenaries are trying to win... with strategy and tactics.. using full maps.. Isn't for farming KD/R SP or even ISK as most people will loose more ISK then PC will provide... until districts are left un contested for long periods of time then wages can be handed out. PC in it's current state hurts all of DUST. and directly effects activity numbers.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1345	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:55:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. those that do are lacking in anymoral fiber are you defending these scrubs? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1718	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:02:00 - [38] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic Actually, I don't think he's complaining about people that are actually playing and fighting in PC. It looks to me like he's complaining about the people that are isk farming via perpetually locked districts. But I could be wrong. Which would be everyone at this point.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 378	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:18:00 - [39] - Quote Hm... PC players are cheaters and MDR/ISK farmers because they die A LOT more in PCs than Pubs, lose money or barely earn money because of how much proto is involved in one match (many will die a lot to secure the win), and chose to play a gamemode that actually has players that shoot back and have all proto gear to compete with you... * gasp * what KD padders Pub players are not cheaters and KDR/ISK farmers because they totally are not playing a gamemode where many enemies barely fire back or even know what they are doing in MLT suits, quick and easy money, faster SP gain, and pub players are totally not using exploits like some players do in PC. Point is, the OP post seems to be from a "I have never even seen a PC match" perspective. When it comes to district locking... Yeah! Ban them all! It is not like all the PC corps hate it and find it very boring and some even warned CCP way ahead of time about the glitch! Banning ALL corps involved in district locking is wrong because a corp's action does not equal all players in the corp performing that action. Plus not the mention that banning everyone would cut Dust's active player base insanely. CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
Patrick57 5555	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:46:00 - [40] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. That's gunna get a lot harder with TEAM LOKUN around. Join TEAM LOKUN today, and build our active player roster. All you have to do is join the channel. We will squad up and stick it to those proto stompers boots ( REs that is ) ( burning brown bags full of REs all over those proto stompers door steps! ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread Seriously, **** out of GD with your recruiting. I go negative in PC, yay

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 245	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:59:00 - [41] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. That's gunna get a lot harder with TEAM LOKUN around. Join TEAM LOKUN today, and build our active player roster. All you have to do is join the channel. We will squad up and stick it to those proto stompers boots ( REs that is ) ( burning brown bags full of REs all over those proto stompers door steps! ) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144216&find=unread Seriously, **** out of GD with your recruiting. Lol, ok mate. I am just excited to be personally driving an initiative and hosting a tournie. I guess maybe I did overdo it a touch. FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 304	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:23:00 - [42] - Quote When the goons went to far with rigging the fw lp store eve side ccp took their ill gotten gains from them. This situation is worse. It's ruining things for everyone but the few who hold locked districts. I don't blame the guys doing it. The blame lands on ccp Perhaps all those with insane amounts of isk could find some poor noobs to give some isk to. Nice to give back after all that stomping. And no I don't mean me. Though many call me a noob I'm at 21 mill sp by now. my name is boba and im a hoarder.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1783	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:43:00 - [43] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So another words we should all protostomp pubs and not play against players close to our lvls cuz that's cheating. Logic We should organize some RA and FA pubstomps to remind these people what happens when we come to their pubs. What happens? People play with free suits that have maybe >10k isk worth of stuff slapped on (if even that) and go horribly negative because they're just trying to get the match over and done with. They might also leave the match if they're kdr padding protostompers or they might also just MCC spin if they want to deny you kills. PC has been broken since day 1 and has done nothing save made the playerbase smaller and smaller while encouraging behavior that promotes protostomping and circlejerk farming. The only people who don't have a problem with PC are the PC farmers themselves Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Patrick57 5558	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:50:00 - [44] - Quote [quote=Alaika Arbosa]What happens? People play with free suits that have maybe >10k isk worth of stuff slapped on (if even that) and go horribly negative because they're just trying to get the match over and done with. They might also leave the match if they're kdr padding protostompers or they might also just MCC spin if they want to deny you kills. PC has been broken since day 1 and has done nothing save made the playerbase smaller and smaller while encouraging behavior that promotes protostomping and circlejerk farming./quote] I'm pretty sure this is the point he was trying to get across.... I go negative in PC, yay
Medrean Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 0	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:18:00 - [45] - Quote >proto in PC >not using adv gear and still placing first on your team Its too bad my side was full of scrubs
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1783	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:26:00 - [46] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: What happens? People play with free suits that have maybe >10k isk worth of stuff slapped on (if even that) and go horribly negative because they're just trying to get the match over and done with. They might also leave the match if they're kdr padding protostompers or they might also just MCC spin if they want to deny you kills. PC has been broken since day 1 and has done nothing save made the playerbase smaller and smaller while encouraging behavior that promotes protostomping and circlejerk farming. I'm pretty sure this is the point he was trying to get across.... I took it as a threat of them pubstomping, tbh, idgaf, I run mostly free suits anyway, 1500 isk suits I should say. Extra credit if you can tell what is on them that costs me 1500 isk. Oh, yeah, I fixed your quote. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Patrick57 5567	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:28:00 - [47] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Extra credit if you can tell what is on them that costs me 1500 isk. Combat Rifle :D I go negative in PC, yay
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 447	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:09:00 - [48] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: PC is just those who use the best FOTM. no skill really involved. Well that is BS. If every one is running the same FOTM fits, than skill is what decides who wins. i don't think so. its whoever sees who first. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1758	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:27:00 - [49] - Quote You're all talking of PC. But, hell, it's at least one month that the vast majority of corps locks their own districts. Just try to be true with yourselves, many people here claimed that they want good fights, still all the districts are locked. And when I say all I mean every single district in Molden Heath, hell even PFC is locked. >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 157	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:29:00 - [50] - Quote i would play PC if i could fight for more than what is currently going on. a little corner in molden heath with no effect on planetary interaction eve side is just kind of a gimmick. the reward is a lot of drama without any effect on null space where the real sandbox is. but since planetary interaction is kind of weak in eve there's no point in fighting for planets- the eve player would be wiser to just surrender it, so i was once told. they seemed to have scrapped that idea that we would once boost planetary productions for eve players and they in turn would use those productions to equip us making a dependence loop. PC was a bandaid to a cry of more content and that cry has come back louder this time. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2989	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:31:00 - [51] - Quote If anything PC has too much skill. There are small groups of players that dominate the participation in PC and they are crazy good. There's a LOT of people who get thrashed by them in PC and quit PC altogether. I enjoy the idea of PC more than I like actually playing it. The highs are great, but man the lows are tough. Drama from getting thrashed in PC has taken down a lot of corps. When you start heavily investing yourself into PC operations the stress level is pretty high. There have been high profile corps dissolve within a week when losses began to pile up. PC has a lot of flaws, but you are crazy if you think PC land lacks skill. There are some teams out there that can throw down in an impressive manner. But I think the good teams put in a little more work and attention to detail than most corps are willing to commit to. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Spartacus Dust The-Legionnaires The CORVOS 157	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:35:00 - [52] - Quote District Locking and Passive income are lame. But PC is more competitive than PUB matches by 100%. Not to mention PC players get to hone their teamwork down on a larger level. Most people in pub matches shoot the ****, in PC everyone is quiet except the Field Commander and a few helpful bits of information from those under their command. The game is broken, but that's why myself and a lot of the other candidates stand strongly on fixing PC mechanics and making it better. Twitter @Matthew_Dust Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 101	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:50:00 - [53] - Quote Maybe if Corporational battles were reintroduced people could actually have some fun without all the politics and drama that holding a district entails. Idk about y'all but I think betting on a battle for your side to win would be much more fun than fighting PC, or at the very least better than having to fight the small pool of people that do PC on a regular basis (IE AE,TP,FA,NS,RS, ML, and the like.) Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Spartacus Dust The-Legionnaires The CORVOS 158	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:54:00 - [54] - Quote Corp battles do need to come back, they were the ****. Twitter @Matthew_Dust Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 101	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:55:00 - [55] - Quote I'm not bashing PC Players I'm just saying PC is broken right now and no districts are attackable, Posing that PC is only limitied to a select few players, and that Smaller corps should be able to engage in the same scale type battle with someone in their league. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1333	Posted - 2014.02.28 03:59:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TheD1CK wrote: They all boast of being part of the 'minority' who play PC And we all know that PC was cheated, used to farm ISK/SP/KDR Yet they are all still here.... The only people being punished Are the genuine gamers who have to deal with their endless ISK Resulting in even more broken gameplay, thanks to guys exploiting the game So CCP what are your thoughts on this?? Reward V Reward, that doesn't sound right I was a mechanic CCP did not foresee us players making use of, in a sand box game where we are free to do as we will, they cannot punish the player base for making use of a specific ISK farm. its not that they can't. They won't. They are lazy and incompetent. Who wants some?
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3010	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:16:00 - [57] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: PC is just those who use the best FOTM. no skill really involved. Well that is BS. If every one is running the same FOTM fits, than skill is what decides who wins. I think the point here is that if you aren't skilled into those specific FOTM fits, you can't really compete... regardless of skill level. I don't think that's entirely accurate, but there is certainly truth there. If you're the kinda guy who likes to skill into more varied and "interesting" things, rather than funnel all your SP into min/maxing, you're just not likely to do that well in PC.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3010	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:19:00 - [58] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: PC is the best part of this game, IMO -- even in its broken (i.e. locked-down) state. It has the best players and the best teamwork and the most on the line. And, FWIW, our corp has a few PC battles every week. Lastly, and to the OP's point, the reality of the broken PC mechanic is that only a few individuals are reaping significant rewards by farming -- and I suspect that number is far smaller than the OP thinks....and certainly not enough to warrant the generalizations in the opening of this thread. Said a bit differently, I can afford to run Proto 100% of the time not because we lock down our 10 districts, but rather because I've been playing this game for a long time and I have over 100M ISK and nothing to do with it. I gain virtually nothing by the actions of my corp. Respectfully...Leadfoot Wait, you have 10 districts but your corp has a few PC battles every week... that doesn't seem to add up. Is PC really that dead at this point?
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 459	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:22:00 - [59] - Quote I play on average 4-6 PC battles a day. Own 0 districts. Still making that isk. The life of a true mercenary. -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 49	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:34:00 - [60] - Quote Perhaps he would be refering to the fact that corps like... just gonna throw a 100% random name out there... say, Escrow Removal and Acquisition, in a few days they will be making about 160 mil isk a day.. for a corp that has 15 members... 17 districts all locked... 15 members.. G0DS AM0NG MEN Director - Fully Support a Respec for 1.8



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