DUST Search - laser rifle buff in 1.8 details

CCP Logibro wrote:

ChromeBreaker wrote:

CCP Logibro wrote:

Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.

WAIT!...

Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer?

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* Laser Rifle:
- Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers.
- Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom)

Bear

Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges)

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ALT2 acc 127	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:40:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: * Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) Source Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2047	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:41:00 - [2] - Quote kinda late to the rave bud but here's a cookie. "But we have been blessed"
ALT2 acc 127	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:43:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: kinda late to the rave bud but here's a cookie. This is for the people who didnt know... Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Patrick57 5518	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:47:00 - [4] - Quote A thread that doesn't make you look like a prick or a dumbass, cool! I go negative in PC, yay
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 216	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:48:00 - [5] - Quote I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2048	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:52:00 - [6] - Quote Kaughst wrote: I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. "But we have been blessed"
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 19	Posted - 2014.02.27 03:14:00 - [7] - Quote it was nice that someone brought it up again so all the new forum people would see it 9/10 Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting SP from all characters:-162,289,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
ALT2 acc 128	Posted - 2014.02.27 05:45:00 - [8] - Quote Bump Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Marc Rime 289	Posted - 2014.02.27 06:21:00 - [9] - Quote Thanks, hadn't noticed that second blue post. Wish he'd have said what the new numbers will be, but some information is better than no information ;).
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 318	Posted - 2014.02.27 06:21:00 - [10] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kaughst wrote: I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired.

ALT2 acc 132	Posted - 2014.02.27 13:23:00 - [11] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kaughst wrote: I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired. Damm. And bump for those who don't know Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 326	Posted - 2014.02.27 13:30:00 - [12] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kaughst wrote: I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired. Damm. And bump for those who don't know That formula is why the amarr assault bonus is so crazy, you go from ~45 dmg per shot for your last 10 shots to ~ 65dmg per shot for your last 10 or something like that. I'm too tired to math.
Musta Tornius Black Phoenix Mercenaries 1073	Posted - 2014.02.27 13:31:00 - [13] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kaughst wrote: I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired. Where are you getting the 0.6 from? I got the number originally from wolfman a long time ago but has it been re-affirmed somewhere? The reason I'm asking is that the SDE doesn't support the claim of 0.6 anywhere which is really strange. It seems more like the number 50 is being used, as in 50dmg jumps every second or so. Would be nice to have the the whole issue resolve regarding laser damage. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
DaNizzle4shizle Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 611	Posted - 2014.02.27 13:41:00 - [14] - Quote i honestly heard that all light weapons were getting nerfed. but looks like the laser rifle might be the next FOTM Forum Warrior lvl 0.6. yes...... i do keep track of my milestones :)
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2731	Posted - 2014.02.27 13:47:00 - [15] - Quote Its a good buff Kinda useless atm when the RR has the same range but alot more damage Intelligence is OP

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5271	Posted - 2014.02.27 13:58:00 - [16] - Quote Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 143	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:00:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. Please let it be the Chrome sights. >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1584	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:00:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote: * Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
ALT2 acc 135	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:00:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. Edited out post Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1829	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:07:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. This reminds me: Are there any plans to introduce skills which increase the optimal range and fall-off of weapons in Dust? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

KrazyEyeKilla Nyain San Renegade Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:10:00 - [21] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. Please let it be the Chrome sights. This please.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4651	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:11:00 - [22] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. Please let it be the Chrome sights. Camera-sights are being exterminated. This is a shooter, and thus it must use weapon attachments that look like you bought them from a pawn shop down the street. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2105	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:20:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. That and amarr commando is getting laser damage bonus.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5286	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:32:00 - [24] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote: * Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges) CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1586	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:34:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote: * Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges) Thank you for making that clear The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 874	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:57:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote: * Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges) Awesome stuff! I have many old laser rifle users in my corp and we are all excited to try out this new and improved laser :) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 14:58:00 - [27] - Quote What if instead of overall Zoom Buff, Zoom increased with each weapon. Like Basic zoom < Adv Zoom < Proto Zoom < Specialist Zoom Do not complain if you have never done anything about it. Chromosome Veteran *Subsonic.*
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 693	Posted - 2014.02.27 15:04:00 - [28] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. This reminds me: Are there any plans to introduce skills which increase the optimal range and fall-off of weapons in Dust? Highly unlikely. The whole sharpshooter issue in Chromo pretty much killed this idea, just too necessary to compete. Similar to proficiency now but much worse.
Senator Snipe Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 103	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:54:00 - [29] - Quote forge guns = complete laser rifle counter. The problem with using the laser rifle is that you have to stay still while aiming so its good on my part. I am a heavy professional. When it comes to Forging, i am unmatchable.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1732	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:05:00 - [30] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt that equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote: * Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) I only means you can fire for longer but the max dps should be the same. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2069	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:09:00 - [31] - Quote Are the OH damage values for the tiers getting unfvcked too? It's a big downside for higher tier weapons to be that much more dangerous. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 489	Posted - 2014.02.28 00:29:00 - [32] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: forge guns = complete laser rifle counter. The problem with using the laser rifle is that you have to stay still while aiming so its good on my part. I always strafe while firing my laser. Might not do much.. stacked armor amarr suit, but yeah, I dont stay still.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 597	Posted - 2014.02.28 02:32:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. You do realize everything you post is completely meaningless. Newb
Foxbat 071 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 134	Posted - 2014.02.28 04:10:00 - [34] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. You do realize everything you post is completely meaningless. gtfo keyboard warrior *BLAP* ( X ) Call For Help ( O ) Respawn


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