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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:40:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:* Laser Rifle:
- Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers.
- Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom)
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:41:00 -
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kinda late to the rave bud but here's a cookie.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:43:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:kinda late to the rave bud but here's a cookie.
This is for the people who didnt know...
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:47:00 -
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A thread that doesn't make you look like a prick or a dumbass, cool!
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Kaughst
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:48:00 -
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I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR.
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2048
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:52:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR.
It builds up heat(damage) over time.
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WolfeXXVII
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.02.27 03:14:00 -
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it was nice that someone brought it up again so all the new forum people would see it 9/10
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Posted - 2014.02.27 05:45:00 -
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Bump
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Marc Rime
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Posted - 2014.02.27 06:21:00 -
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Thanks, hadn't noticed that second blue post.
Wish he'd have said what the new numbers will be, but some information is better than no information ;). |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
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Posted - 2014.02.27 06:21:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Kaughst wrote:I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time.
Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod
So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired. |
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:23:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Kaughst wrote:I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired.
Damm.
And bump for those who don't know
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:30:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Kaughst wrote:I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired. Damm. And bump for those who don't know
That formula is why the amarr assault bonus is so crazy, you go from ~45 dmg per shot for your last 10 shots to ~ 65dmg per shot for your last 10 or something like that. I'm too tired to math. |
Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:31:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Kaughst wrote:I am kind of fuzzy on how damage is applied with the LR. It builds up heat(damage) over time. Dmg = ((17 + (0.6 * number of shots fired consecutively)) * proficiency) * dmg mods in order of largest to smallest with stacking penalty applied starting on 2nd mod So with prof 5 and 3 cplx mods you start at about 26dmg and get .82 more or so per shot fired.
Where are you getting the 0.6 from? I got the number originally from wolfman a long time ago but has it been re-affirmed somewhere?
The reason I'm asking is that the SDE doesn't support the claim of 0.6 anywhere which is really strange. It seems more like the number 50 is being used, as in 50dmg jumps every second or so.
Would be nice to have the the whole issue resolve regarding laser damage.
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DaNizzle4shizle
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
611
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:41:00 -
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i honestly heard that all light weapons were getting nerfed. but looks like the laser rifle might be the next FOTM
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:47:00 -
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Its a good buff
Kinda useless atm when the RR has the same range but alot more damage
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:58:00 -
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Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.
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Vapor Forseti
THE-TITANS
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:00:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.
Please let it be the Chrome sights.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1584
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:00:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.
WAIT!...
Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer?
Quote:* Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) 
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:00:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1829
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:07:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.
This reminds me: Are there any plans to introduce skills which increase the optimal range and fall-off of weapons in Dust?
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KrazyEyeKilla
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:10:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. Please let it be the Chrome sights.
This please. |
Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:11:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. Please let it be the Chrome sights.
Camera-sights are being exterminated. This is a shooter, and thus it must use weapon attachments that look like you bought them from a pawn shop down the street.
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:20:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving.
That and amarr commando is getting laser damage bonus. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:32:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote:* Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom)
Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges)
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:34:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote:* Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges)
Thank you for making that clear 
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:57:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!... Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt theat equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote:* Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom) Mechanically, yes advanced and prototype will get more damage with sustained fire due to being able to fire for longer and you'll be able to stay at a higher damage point for longer. However, when we refer to it getting more damage we would be referring to base damage (or in the case of my earlier post, a better optimal/effective range curve giving it more damage at more ranges)
Awesome stuff! I have many old laser rifle users in my corp and we are all excited to try out this new and improved laser :)
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:58:00 -
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What if instead of overall Zoom Buff, Zoom increased with each weapon. Like Basic zoom < Adv Zoom < Proto Zoom < Specialist Zoom
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.27 15:04:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. This reminds me: Are there any plans to introduce skills which increase the optimal range and fall-off of weapons in Dust?
Highly unlikely. The whole sharpshooter issue in Chromo pretty much killed this idea, just too necessary to compete. Similar to proficiency now but much worse. |
Senator Snipe
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
103
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:54:00 -
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forge guns = complete laser rifle counter. The problem with using the laser rifle is that you have to stay still while aiming so its good on my part.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1732
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Posted - 2014.02.28 00:05:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Just to help explain, the Laser Rifle isn't actually getting more damage. It's just getting a better optimal/effective range curve so you do more damage over a wider range (both closer and further away). That and the zoom is improving. WAIT!...Its also noted that the more adv vertions are getting less heat build up..? doesnt that equate to more dmg?? By shooting for longer? Quote:* Laser Rifle: - Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers. - Improved zoom FOV. (effectively more zoom)
I only means you can fire for longer but the max dps should be the same.
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