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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:02:00 -
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'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
I guess there's no real point to this post. I'm loving what little scouting skill I have, and look forward to the definitely happening infantry respec come 1.8 (should CCP want to have a job to come back to the following day).
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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Rusty Shallows
1043
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:03:00 -
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The BPO haters are going to crucify you.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2145
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:04:00 -
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Scouts definitely need a buff, but as my CEO says, "if you die all the time you don't know how to use it"
Also: "scan attempt prevented" are among the most beautiful words in the English language.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4271
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:04:00 -
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I'm guessing you had 1 good game with that fit and came on the forums to tell us.
I suggest playing more with it.
However you are right. Ducking under scanners is worth the hp loss.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5861
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:04:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:The BPO haters are going to crucify you. Let them come.
Won't cost me a dime.
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1177
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:04:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
You must have gotten lucky in terms of your opponents. Against baddies, a STD strafing damped scout is extremely effective. Against people with half-decent situational awareness (AKA eyes) and aim, you're going to get wrecked. Or, you can still do solidly, but it's certainly nothing approaching "near invincibility". |
General John Ripper
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
18889
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:05:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
I guess there's no real point to this post. I'm loving what little scouting skill I have, and look forward to the definitely happening infantry respec come 1.8 (should CCP want to have a job to come back to the following day). I do good in my scout fit.
A taco is born and eaten everytime a post is liked.
Such is the cycle of life.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1783
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:05:00 -
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You can do the exact same thing and more with a assault or logi. Yes, we do.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1305
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:05:00 -
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Oh, you were using AR. Try running shotty or Knives and then come back.
I don't agree with the hp buffs some fake scouts may be talking about, but I'm all for a slight speed buff. Make our sprint speed noticeable when running next to a med frame. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5861
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:05:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm guessing you had 1 good game with that fit and came on the forums to tell us.
I suggest playing more with it.
However you are right. Ducking under scanners is worth the hp loss. Nope, I actually have stopped tanking to do my weak ass lone wolf scout thing. I have yet to make a significant impact on any game I play (I have yet to go negative though), but good god is it fun.
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
384
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:06:00 -
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Try being a scout minny scout in PC. |
Christiphoros von Poe
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
158
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:06:00 -
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I have said it before... The "Dragonfly" is infused with black magic...
(1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3601
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:06:00 -
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It basically took until now to realize the gist of your post OP.
I have profile dampening level V and my assault suits can get under basic scanners without any dampening modules.
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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Rusty Shallows
1043
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:06:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:The BPO haters are going to crucify you. Let them come. Won't cost me a dime. Zing
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
Forums > Game
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5861
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:07:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Oh, you were using AR. Try running shotty or Knives and then come back.
I don't agree with the hp buffs some fake scouts may be talking about, but I'm all for a slight speed buff. Make our sprint speed noticeable when running next to a med frame. I use what I want to use. Shotguns don't fit my playstyle, so I don't use them (plus, I have a BPO, so... might as well use it). I do have another fit with ADV NK, and I have a newfound respect for the knifers out there.
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
256
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:10:00 -
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I came across a trio the other day that travelled across the whole map in a triangle formation (1 heavy and 2 logis) and there was nothing I could do. They couldn't see me but they were constantly visually covering corners and enter/exit points so now way to approach them without being seen.
Probably will see more of that come 1.8 with all invisible scouts out there. |
Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1850
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:11:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
I guess there's no real point to this post. I'm loving what little scouting skill I have, and look forward to the definitely happening infantry respec come 1.8 (should CCP want to have a job to come back to the following day).
S
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Its terrible for a scout, not being seen, speed to run circles, humour watching remotes in action over n over, tank kills, heavy kills, logi kills....
Also take the reactive plate off, thrown on a kitkat, a lot more fun.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5862
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:16:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
I guess there's no real point to this post. I'm loving what little scouting skill I have, and look forward to the definitely happening infantry respec come 1.8 (should CCP want to have a job to come back to the following day). S T F U Its terrible for a scout, not being seen, speed to run circles, humour watching remotes in action over n over, tank kills, heavy kills, logi kills.... Also take the reactive plate off, thrown on a kitkat, a lot more fun.
The plate is only on there because I have decent armor tanking skills and 0 biotics. I thin I have a militia BPO for it though, I could try that out.
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
112
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:18:00 -
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Inconsistent module slots for my Gallente scout suit isn't nearly as bad? lol
Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
765
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:18:00 -
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I also found running a scout to be much better than I thought it would be, my biggest problem is I switch back and forth from assault and scout and the 2 are a totally different way to play. A totally different mindset, but scout is a ton of fun most of the time. Right now I need my assault suits as well for more straight up fights, but that may not even be the case come 1.8 as I'll be able to create a gallente scout with nearly as much tank as my Minmatar assault.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
419
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:33:00 -
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If it weren't for 1.8, this is what I'd be working towards. If you'v egot the skills for it, give it a try al
Scout gk.0 (All relevant skills to V)
Highs Complex Light Damage Mod
Lows Complex KinCats x3 Complex ProfDamp
Weapons CreoDron Shotgun
Sidearm / Grenade / Equipment to taste
Highlights
Invisible - Can only be scanned by a Duvolle Focused, and that scan duration / target visibility duration are both only 5s. If you've been scanned, you know exactly what you're up against. Note: If you want to hide from focused scanners, you need 4 Complex ProfDamps and I didn't feel like that was worth it. Maxed skills and a single MLT ProfDamp is enough to hide you from all active scanners except the Duvolle Focused.
Fast - Can sprint at 10.73m/s for 21s. That's 225m without needing to recharge your stamina. He might go all the all.
Deadly - People ***** about the shotgun, but really, you're gonna slaughter just about everything except that one brick tanked proto heavy. Wahh! This is a one hit kill for a lot of things, two for most.
In terms of going fast and not being seen, this out does the Scout mk.0 in every aspect.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
973
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:36:00 -
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The big problem in scouts is the price vs reward vs risk.
When other suits have a better reward for the lack of risk for the same price, that's the problem.
Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running.
Delt for CPM1
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CRYPT3C W0LF
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
397
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:42:00 -
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Wish I had a chance to buy a Scout BPO before they got taken off
COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^
Slayer Scout, I feast on you're proto remains (Nom Nom Nom)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
7037
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:51:00 -
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Have you joined the Scouts United chat channel yet?
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
765
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:57:00 -
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CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:Wish I had a chance to buy a Scout BPO before they got taken off I'll sell you one when item trading drops, how much you willing to pay?
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1348
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Have you joined the Scouts United chat channel yet? I hear its tourist friendly these days :-) |
Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1349
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:00:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:If it weren't for 1.8, this is what I'd be working towards. If you'v egot the skills for it, give it a try al
Scout gk.0 (All relevant skills to V)
Highs Complex Light Damage Mod
Lows Complex KinCats x3 Militia ProfDamp
Weapons CreoDron Shotgun
Sidearm / Grenade / Equipment to taste
Highlights
Not terribly expensive - Costs just over 100k ISK fit as I hav eit here.
Invisible - Can only be scanned by a Duvolle Focused, and that scan duration / target visibility duration are both only 5s. If you've been scanned, you know exactly what you're up against. Note: If you want to hide from focused scanners, you need 4 Complex ProfDamps and I didn't feel like that was worth it. Maxed skills and a single MLT ProfDamp is enough to hide you from all active scanners except the Duvolle Focused.
Fast - Can sprint at 10.73m/s for 21s. That's 225m without needing to recharge your stamina. He might go all the all.
Deadly - People ***** about the shotgun, but really, you're gonna slaughter just about everything except that one brick tanked proto heavy. Wahh! This is a one hit kill for a lot of things, two for most.
In terms of going fast and not being seen, this out does the Scout mk.0 in every aspect.
80 Shields, 149 Armor 104,000 Isk per Death
You want to Shotgun in that fit?
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
419
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:22:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:An awesome scout fit 80 Shields, 149 Armor 104,000 Isk per Death You want to Shotgun in that fit?
I have done so in worse. My best games have been shotgunning in a Light Frame with basic and enhanced gear. Put whatever weapon in there you're good with. Either way, it's funny how HP doesn't matter when you don't get shot.
Hint: Don't be seen.
But then, I shouldn't have to tell that to a character named "Scout Registry", should I?
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2115
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:33:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
I guess there's no real point to this post. I'm loving what little scouting skill I have, and look forward to the definitely happening infantry respec come 1.8 (should CCP want to have a job to come back to the following day).
EDIT: Thanks to some wise advice from a poster, I have since swapped the plate for a BPO red pill thingy. Awesome that you are having fun with this, it really is a great time. I don't think I could play this game without a scout suit.
As far as not having it as bad as we make it out to be, I can understand you saying that, not having been in a scout suit before the changes that have happened. It was worse when every installation on the map showed you on the radar, stealth meant nothing then. As soon as you approached an objective, Turret, SD, of CRU, you were as visible as if you had been scanned. And with the layout of some maps this pretty much meant you were seen everywhere
KRRROOOOOOM
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1349
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:37:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:An awesome scout fit 80 Shields, 149 Armor 104,000 Isk per Death You want to Shotgun in that fit? I have done so in worse. My best games have been shotgunning in a Light Frame with basic and enhanced gear. Put whatever weapon in there you're good with. Either way, it's funny how HP doesn't matter when you don't get shot. Hint: Don't be seen. But then, I shouldn't have to tell that to a character named "Scout Registry", should I?
Good luck. |
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1573
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:42:00 -
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I run my Dren or Dragonfly BPO with Complex Stamina and KinKat and it is ridiculous how fun it can be. I just hate how paper thin I am. I should be able to out run who ever is shooting at me, but if a few bullets graze me its lights out. My favorite move is to drop from a high spot and SG someone to the head. I know I **** off a lot of proto's and heavies when I kill them with this move. My suit cost less than 11K whats in your wallet
A heavy before 1.8
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Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1855
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:55:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Snip 80 Shields, 149 Armor 104,000 Isk per Death You want to Shotgun in that fit?
I don't see an issue with his HP, the fit is designed to be incombat for split seconds, moving, and moving and moving. I run something similar though I don't see the need for a complex damage mod with SG. Cheapest 12k (84 Shield/162 Armor/9.02 m/s) work very well still. Good 97k (84 Shld/ 162 Armor/10.01m/s) Best 142k (84 shld/162 armor/10.01m/s)
All function and work th same in reality, mainly use the cheapsuit, the idea isn't toget into gun fights, the idea is to just appear and facerape and leave
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4275
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Posted - 2014.02.27 03:02:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:An awesome scout fit 80 Shields, 149 Armor 104,000 Isk per Death You want to Shotgun in that fit? I have done so in worse. My best games have been shotgunning in a Light Frame with basic and enhanced gear. Put whatever weapon in there you're good with. Either way, it's funny how HP doesn't matter when you don't get shot. Hint: Don't be seen. But then, I shouldn't have to tell that to a character named "Scout Registry", should I? Would not work in PC. I can tell you that
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1684
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Posted - 2014.02.27 05:11:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:'Dragonfly' Scout
Enhanced Profile Damp Enhanced Reactive Plate
Basic Scan Precision Amp
'Toxin' Assault Rifle 'Toxin' SMG
ADV Scanner
I have barebones skills to fit this suit out (scouts 1, weak core) as I'm primarily a tanker, and I gotta say that the near invincibility granted to me by ducking under most scanners is completely worth the EHP loss, since, well, I'm never spotted long enough for EHP to really come into play.
I'm not against a scout buff, as you guys have been given the short end of the stick since day 1, but you don't nearly have it as bad as you try to lead everyone else to believe.
I guess there's no real point to this post. I'm loving what little scouting skill I have, and look forward to the definitely happening infantry respec come 1.8 (should CCP want to have a job to come back to the following day).
EDIT: Thanks to some wise advice from a poster, I have since swapped the plate for a BPO red pill thingy. And given that experience can you imagine what the 1.8 Protoscouts are going to be like? Death incarnate, i sez.
I support SP rollover.
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Supernus Gigas
Star Giants
331
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Posted - 2014.02.27 05:45:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:
Also: "scan attempt prevented" are among the most beautiful words in the English language.
It's even more beautiful in a Sentinel suit. My HMG likes to sneak up and spook people.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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