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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:08:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:I use the CRW extensively and have tested the rof many times. I don't use the Amarr assault though. On my Caldari assault the average amount of shots I can get clicking trigger as fast as I can click is 16. And then the weapon seizes due to overheat. The most I have ever achieved is 20 shoots before overheat and that was shooting very slow, like one shoot a second.
If I can get 16, than a max skilled Amarr assault might get 20 or 21 shoots, which is still only half a clip. So your fantasy of that guy emptying an entire clip in a second is grossly over stated.
The ScR is a high alpha weapon. In most 1v1 fights a scrambler will win. Also the ScR does require better aim because ever shoot counts due to overheat. I prefer to use the CR in cqc because when I use the ScR, I often have to switch to my sidearm to prevent overheating.
Every other rifle allows you to empty the clip and the switch to a sidearm if needed. Due to overheat, I am often switching back and forth between my ScR and my SMG. this overheat mechanic is the best balancing mechanic in the game and makes the ScR strong in 1v1 but weaker against multiply targets.
The ScR is strong, but it is not OP. how can a weapon that constantly forces me to switch to a sidearm be OP?
I also extensively use it with the Amarr Assault and even then I am, when engaging an enemy very wary of how they move. Missing shots is the difference between successful fights being wins or losses.
However I also make heavy use of the Combat Rifle.... with that am not so careful, I have a large amount of Dakka to throw down range and very good hit fire, missing is forgving, as I have massive RoF and Burst/Auto to compensate.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:34:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Rinzler XVIII wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm sick of even trying to get you people to stop with the SCR is OP threads, so I'm gonna be blunt.
Go die OP. Yeah, Aisha just got real dark. That's just an instant report Disgraceful and out of order .. requesting a ROF cap to prevent modded pad abuse is no excuse to tell someone to go die I find this hilarious coming from someone who's been banned... how many times now? 2? 3? More? Irrelevant You can't justify telling someone to go die because of what they have done in the past
Sure you can but the words are shallow and mean nothing. Joking about death is something I think no one should do....but when someone does, you can normally discount that as a coping mechanism or ignorance.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:51:00 -
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Horrific I am sure, and don't mistake my apathy for lack of empathy, seens the effects of suicide on a very close family group, its horrific.
However for the most part I do think you are blowing this out of proportion. A fair example of make, but not necessarily the same.
Do not blow this out of proportion.
Back to the topic at hand.... I feel this could be a necessary tweak....couple that with a longer ScR reload time and we have a winner.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:27:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Joel II X wrote:The ScR doesn't take any skill. It takes as much skill as a CR since they both fire as fast as you can pull the trigger.
Anyways, a RoF cap might be for the better. I agree with OP.
If you really want OP though, head to the assault aile. Every section from CR to RR to ScR is there. AR is at discount price.
No it doesn't, don't be ridiculous. I use the CR more than the ScR despite the very important facts that I have a Templar ScR BPO and am a dedicated Amarr loyalist. Why? Well, the most important reason is the crazy low fit costs. But it's also clearly a much easier weapon to use and I don't have Aisha or Arkenas gun game. Since it fires a burst it's more forgiving because some of your shots may still hit if your aim is off. It also doesn't overheat so I can empty out the entire clip at will without it seizing up on me and doing damage. (P.s, I feel less dirty knowing True uses the CR, that's the most important thing I take from this thread, lol)
I use it/ used it post 1.8 it quickly got boring and admittedly too easy to have massive kill games......but I have less gun game than you all.... I drive an HAV...so I need all the DAKKA skill compensation I can get.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:46:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:It's threads like these that really tick me off. People like you don't even realize what we scramblers sacrifice when using these weapons to help carry the teams.
Does anyone remember when The FOTM cal logis were running around with over 600 shields and proto rifles? Anyone remember how many people complained about that? Anyone notice that the scrambler rifle was the go to weapon to deal with that crap?
Here's a few tips in case you don't know on how to deal with us.
1) don't wear militia suits, I swear over half of you are complaining about this because your gear is subpar.
2) Learn how to strafe. So many of you guys are sitting still practically begging for our charge shots to peg you in the head. And you're sitting there wondering what happened, here's what happened. you gave us the time we needed to smack you down with a charge shot.
3) Do not wear rail rifles with heavy suits. I'm so sick of seeing people who wear this and think it takes skill to do it, that I have gotten to the point of specifically hunting for you guys just to teach you a lesson. Besides, much like the old days of Cal logi spam, after dealing with a heavy, even our blessed suits cannot handle the heat build up, thus we cannot go on taking on another opponent, leaving us defenseless so you people wouldn't have to deal with another tryhard.
4 Unless you're an absolute beast, the amarr assault is the only viable fit for the SCR. Learn to notice us.
There are other secret tips on how to deal with us, but to be frank, I don't want to rob my brethren of any more tears or kills.
SCRAMBLER FOR LIFE!!
Derrith....I had no idea...you felt this...strongly....about us...... sniff.....I luv ya man!
Still tell your ******* landshark buddy Dengru to stay the hell away from me!
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 03:57:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:ScR is powerfull, but what is sad its mostly used by people with moded controlers. I saw some boyos before and basicaly its instant death for any contender around. I have never, I repeat NEVER used any type of modded controller and I am able to spit rounds out at incredible rate (by OP's standards). Just because some people have a quick trigger finger doesn't mean they cheat. Besides, even if people used turbo controllers, you would constantly see them suicide on the kill feed constantly or at least debilatated. Squad with me sometime and I'll make you a believer. Also, maybe the reason you die so quickly is well placed volley shots to the head. Did you even consider that? I always aim high.
I can hear Aero and Aisha's headshots across comms...... that gong sounds all to often.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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