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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:12:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Give it a ROF cap .. that is all it needs
The same guy seemed to be able to rapid fire nearly his entire clip of the SCR in under a second, honestly it was so fast you couldn't even tell the gap in the light between the bullets ..
Impossible. You will overheat before you are halfway through the clip.
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Why can a semi auto weapon be able to be fired faster than its assault variant ??
It can't be. The RoF is capped at about 10 shots per second.
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The normal SCR has higher damage and range than the assault variant already and if you can then bypass the reason for using the assault variant (higher ROF) by using a modded pad or spamming R1 then it is clearly broken !!
Modded pads are a problem, but it's generally not possible for people to push the trigger 10 times per second consistently whilst in combat.
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Capping the ROF just like the TAC AR had done to it and nothing else would stop this abuse taking place, the SCR is most definitely the weapon most abused by modded pad users and don't tell me .. heat build up stops it being able to be used on modded pads .. it doesn't .. you can change settings on it to make sure it doesn't.
The TAR currently has a painful amount of oversampling and is a generally terrible weapon. You're probably quite right saying that the SCR is abused by modded controllers, but overheat is a better mechanic for combating that than causing normal users to suffer oversampling issues.
By the way, please show me the modded controller which disables overheat. 
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:14:00 -
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Lv2spd2 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:
ED: You addressed this in your OP, I guess. How is the heat build-up bypassed? Sounds like an exploit.
You start by purposely overheating the gun. After that there is a way to glitch/cancel the overheat animation but the rapid cooldown remains in effect. I suspect it would be against the forum rules to explain exactly how. After you do that you can fire the whole clip as fast as you like, because the heat build up will not overcome the much faster than usual cooldown. But if the heat level does reach 0, you have to start over. I agree, it is an exploit.
This has been fixed as of 1.7.
Previously, after overheating you could crouch and then sprint, much like you could cancel the scanner animation by sprinting.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:22:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:if you did have a turbo controller,
basic Scr dps= 847.08 with no damage modes or prof,
while doing
677.664 DPS to armor
1016.5 DPS to shields.
if you didnt have a turbo to reach that, say you were firing at 550 instead 700(which is easily achievable with just a controller)
That requires you hitting the button at 9 times per second. That's not actually that realistic to achieve consistently.
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Basic Scr DPS= 660
528 DPS to armor
792 DPS to shileds
if it was as slow as 400RPM max(as fast as a breach AR and Tac ar fires now)
BasicSCr dps = 480
384 DPS to armor
576 DPS to shields
I don't think the first number is unreasonable given that the weapon overheats rather than keeps firing. It gets a decent DPS advantage having traded that off.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:24:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm sick of even trying to get you people to stop with the SCR is OP threads, so I'm gonna be blunt.
Go die OP. Yeah, Aisha just got real dark. That's just an instant report Disgraceful and out of order .. requesting a ROF cap to prevent modded pad abuse is no excuse to tell someone to go die
I find this hilarious coming from someone who's been banned... how many times now? 2? 3? More?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:33:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Rinzler XVIII wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm sick of even trying to get you people to stop with the SCR is OP threads, so I'm gonna be blunt.
Go die OP. Yeah, Aisha just got real dark. That's just an instant report Disgraceful and out of order .. requesting a ROF cap to prevent modded pad abuse is no excuse to tell someone to go die I find this hilarious coming from someone who's been banned... how many times now? 2? 3? More? Irrelevant You can't justify telling someone to go die because of what they have done in the past
I'm not justifying it.
I'm saying I find the way your immediate reaction is to report the guy is hilarious.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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