Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.25 08:16:00 -
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Cotsy wrote:The dust community is controlled by a few elite members of elite corps who don't see the unbalanced matchmaking system as a significant problem. Frankly, the think they deserve the right to do what 'I report you' Moody video shows.
Matching players based on skill level (say SP tiers or average WP) is the only logical answer to so many questions: how do we grow the game, how do we get new players to stay, how do we create an enjoyable gameplay, how do we avoid epic Proto stomps, how do we avoid the ever growing gap between elite and middle of the road players.
But here lies the problem, the elite don't like to or want to play each other. They leave lobbies when they see the other team composition of elite squads and prefer to stomp on lower tier players instead of risking a competitive match. Until the elite members of the community stop complaining about useless aspects of the game like redline hiding when they are Proto stomping or rail gun tank shooting them from inside the redline to 1m outside the redline where they are waiting to stomp this game we all play will never grow. Players will leave, noobs won't play more than a few matches. Lower tier players will give up and eventually middle of the road guys will just walk away from the game because the gap is too wide to be competitive.
There is no problems bigger or that should be address with more pressing concerns than having a match where both parties have equal shot at winning and everyone in the match has a good chance at killing each other based on their SP and their skill level.
- Cots
Hi Cotsy, you may not read this but i'll respond anyways:
I'm the CEO of a small corp called Fatal Absolution. We have about 65 active players that are very active.
those 65 active players average about 60k kills a week...which is good enough to be in the top 3 this week among all corporations. We play PC, and probably fit the criteria of what you might claim as 'elite' (a pompous term i'd much prefer 'vet')
As the CEO and having hand picked all but about 5 of the members in the corp, I fee like I can speak authoritatively in saying that you are incorrect about some of your assertions and assessments, insofar as FA represents a small portion of that 'vet' population. (and not all our guys are vets but most have been playing for 5+ months and about 20 of the 65 have been playing for over a year now, including myself)
"the elite don't like to or want to play each other."
I don't know why you think this but it's untrue. I LOVE playing competitively, it's a ton of fun. It's why i deal with the imperfections of PC to continue playing it. Because it's the only game mode where you can place 16 people on the same page vs your 16.
"They leave lobbies when they see the other team composition of elite squads and prefer to stomp on lower tier players instead of risking a competitive match."
The only time I leave a lobby is if I d/c or if I am solo, my team has no squads, and the enemy team has more than 6 players who share tags as someone else in the match, and i look at our team chat and notice the only people in a squad have like 2 people in NPC corps. This is because of my VAST experience playing public matches where as one player..vs an organized other side...you simply watch in horror as you strive to win despite the odds and the enemy team sends you gg's after you go 7/17 with 1800 wp's. I play the game to have fun...not get redlined by the opposing team because my team never had a chance. I leave hoping next game I find a better match, or i go join a squad and hope I see that same team.
Whenever our guys see another squad on the other side I tell my guys "alright cats let's go hard" and we stop playing a pub like a pub and everyone puts game faces on...but you're right in the sentiment that this doesn't happen often.
In actuality everyday I play a pub (not often because if you knew the first thing about me you'd know I only play pubs when I can't cap out by solely playing PC matches..or when i'm drunk running plasma cannons and scr pistols on militia scouts) I start out squadless...inevitably get beaten and sent volatile mail by some squad...so i go get a squad hoping to see other squads and smack them.
I don't think i'm in the minority. I think if you knew a majority of the players you have opinions about you'd know a lot of us don't even like wearing proto full time (except logi's cause we like our shiny 4 proto equips) because advanced suits or lower help make us better for when we DO compete competitively vs full proto teams.
Regardless of the misallocated frustration with a portion of the playerbase you really don't understand..matchmaking is difficult.
I can tell you that if my squad doesn't mind I ask them if we can leave battles if i'm in a full squad of my own corpmates and try to reque up a few times hoping we DO find a squad of homies on the other team...but oftimes we get frustrated and end up playing w/e we are playing.
Anyways:
TL;DR 'vets' want gud fights. promise. matchmaking is broken.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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