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Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:18:00 -
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So was just in an ambush with none other than the infamous duna. They had 7 tanks. Seriously, this crap needs to be sorted. There is never a need to have more than 3-4 tanks in a battle ever. It makes it completely one sided and it sucks the fun out of the game when you cant spawn at all without being shot by an ion cannon. CCP please sort this out. |
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:20:00 -
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HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop. |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:20:00 -
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All working as intended. Sounds like fun to me.
But duna has been doing this for months.......why stop him now?
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:21:00 -
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To be honest, I wouldn't mind a vehicle free ambush
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:23:00 -
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Just played a match.. 6-7 tanks were rolling around. The weirdest thing.. I hacked a blaster turret and started railing a blaster tank... took out it's shields.. started eating into it's armor... and the tanker got out of his tank! I was like wut. Then I shot him down and left his hobbled tank as bait.. no one took it so I just blowed it up.
What the hell is the point?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:25:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop.
All vehicles, otherwise next it will be 6 ADS a side and LAV's full of heavies. |
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:27:00 -
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I have posted on this before, a simple solution that benefits ALL playstyles
-2 HAV's in Ambush (No tanks isn't really a good option, if you want all infantry play COD) -3 HAV's in Domination -4 HAV's in Skirmish
This benefits everyone, Tanks still run all modes, Infantry aren't crushed by 6/7 HAV's
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7495
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:27:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop. All vehicles, otherwise next it will be 6 ADS a side and LAV's full of heavies. But that's like banning Infantry from skirmish......
Either way war does not work like that, you don't get to arbitrarily decide who deploys what and where, only CONCORD can do that.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Icarus DelSol
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:28:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop. All vehicles, otherwise next it will be 6 ADS a side and LAV's full of heavies.
I think a game mode that promoted LAVS full of heavies and logis would be fun actually... |
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Justice Darling
Themis Argonauts
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:28:00 -
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Really some underground maps would be nice way to keep tanks and any other vehicles out of the match, Bust out the heavy boys Its time for an overhaul |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:32:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Really some underground maps would be nice way to keep tanks and any other vehicles out of the match, Bust out the heavy boys Its time for an overhaul
Yeah but then I could call in MTAC which I would. I'm a vehicle man through and through.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:34:00 -
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Icarus DelSol wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop. All vehicles, otherwise next it will be 6 ADS a side and LAV's full of heavies. I think a game mode that promoted LAVS full of heavies and logis would be fun actually...
You should have been here for the indestructible Logi LAV's then! Heavy pulls up in a LLAV, jumps out and starts mowing everyone down with his HMG then drives off like a scrub as soon as they start taking dmg |
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:36:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:So was just in an ambush with none other than the infamous duna. They had 7 tanks. Seriously, this crap needs to be sorted. There is never a need to have more than 3-4 tanks in a battle ever. It makes it completely one sided and it sucks the fun out of the game when you cant spawn at all without being shot by an ion cannon. CCP please sort this out.
Well I was in a few Tankmination(c) battles where there were 5 or 6 tanks on the field. I believe we were good sports and tried our best to AV the tanks, but man oh man, what a whoopin' they put on us. Just seemed like dropping everything to handle the tanks left us wide open to infantry reaming.
*raises glass*
Here's to playable, fun-for-all balance in 1.8!![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:37:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:To be honest, I wouldn't mind a vehicle free ambush
Yah you just want DUST 514 without vehicles... Tiered suits... Weapon tiers..... The maps are way to big aswell...
Basically CoD but done by CCP. Right?
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So much of what sorry state DUST has become from 1.4 can be blamed on this kind of understanding in DUST.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:40:00 -
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Anyway, best way not to get killed by Duna? Quit the match whenever he's on the other side.
If you stay. That's your choice.
I generally leave cos I'm damned if he's going to pad his stats with anymore of my deaths.
What's he going to do when in every match the opposition leave?? He won't be able to pad his stats then ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop. All vehicles, otherwise next it will be 6 ADS a side and LAV's full of heavies. But that's like banning Infantry from skirmish...... Either way war does not work like that, you don't get to arbitrarily decide who deploys what and where, only CONCORD can do that. You have to spawn in match before getting a HAV. Everyone starts as infantry. So it isn't the same at all.
If you have a fix for Tankbush please share. Considering the amount of flak CCP has been getting on this topic since before Uprising 1.7 something needs to be done.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:46:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:True Adamance wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:HAV needs to be banned from Ambush, full stop. All vehicles, otherwise next it will be 6 ADS a side and LAV's full of heavies. But that's like banning Infantry from skirmish...... Either way war does not work like that, you don't get to arbitrarily decide who deploys what and where, only CONCORD can do that. You have to spawn in match before getting a HAV. Everyone starts as infantry. So it isn't the same at all. If you have a fix for Tankbush please share. Considering the amount of flak CCP has been getting on this topic since before Uprising 1.7 something needs to be done.
I don't claim to have a solution but simply exiling something because you don't like it is not the way to achieve a heathy and balanced game.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:48:00 -
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i think duna would quit dust if he couldnt run ina 6 tank squad in tankbush
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:59:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I have posted on this before, a simple solution that benefits ALL playstyles
-2 HAV's in Ambush (No tanks isn't really a good option, if you want all infantry play COD) -3 HAV's in Domination -4 HAV's in Skirmish
This benefits everyone, Tanks still run all modes, Infantry aren't crushed by 6/7 HAV's
To be honest, I'd much rather see other issues such as AV weaponry, map design, and "smart" deploy fixed as opposed to a hard cap on the amount of vehicles.
I don't think it'd be fair to vehicle pilots who invested almost all of their SP into vehicles, and just want to have a fun game with there friends.
How about, we fix these issues first, as opposed to covering a band-aid over the real problem.
That would truly benefit everyone. HAVs run in all modes, nobody is stomped by HAVs, and HAV pilots can have fun with there friends.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
I've adapted, and soon I will HTFU...
...Permanently. In a Gunnlogi
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:TheD1CK wrote:I have posted on this before, a simple solution that benefits ALL playstyles
-2 HAV's in Ambush (No tanks isn't really a good option, if you want all infantry play COD) -3 HAV's in Domination -4 HAV's in Skirmish
This benefits everyone, Tanks still run all modes, Infantry aren't crushed by 6/7 HAV's
To be honest, I'd much rather see other issues such as AV weaponry, map design, and "smart" deploy fixed as opposed to a hard cap on the amount of vehicles. I don't think it'd be fair to vehicle pilots who invested almost all of their SP into vehicles, and just want to have a fun game with there friends. How about, we fix these issues first, as opposed to covering a band-aid over the real problem. That would truly benefit everyone. HAVs run in all modes, nobody is stomped by HAVs, and HAV pilots can have fun with there friends. That's why I am here. Not because I like shitting all over your game time but instead because I have fun doing my thing.
If wanted HAV vs HAV all the time I'd be in WoT.
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Justice Darling
Themis Argonauts
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Posted - 2014.02.25 04:52:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:To be honest, I wouldn't mind a vehicle free ambush Yah you just want DUST 514 without vehicles... Tiered suits... Weapon tiers..... The maps are way to big aswell... Basically CoD but done by CCP. Right? ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) So much of what sorry state DUST has become from 1.4 can be blamed on this kind of understanding in DUST. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
No, really what I would like to see is when you have 10 guys with AV hitting tanks and they are perm tanked, and not dying to be NOS'ed and WEB and there over all usefulness drop to 0% without ground support, so they can't do their best impression of Monty python and the holy grail of "RUN AWAY" its a killer Dust bunny, but folks don't want a game that is from the universe of EvE Online. They want a World of Tanks version of CoD done by CCP, myself I would love to be back in the universe of EvE and call it a day. |
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:09:00 -
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Just up the swarms and AV...
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ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:45:00 -
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I hate it how everyone compares any sort of idea to 'Oh you want COD'. No we just want fun. Ambush is NOT fun when before you even get into the game 7+ tanks are rolling around and camping spawns.
I regularly get a forge out but once the spawns are camped there is NOTHING you can do. Not a thing. The only way you can do a damn thing is to get a lucky fast spawn and then head for high ground.
I usually start off with uplinks and try and get a good position for AV for my team. I come back in with a forge and occasionally I do smash me up a silly tanker. The problem is even if by some miracle you do kill a tank, his friends soon rush up on you at 100mph with blasters blazing.
And to think, you guys have the audacity to say we want COD?
What's so wrong with an infantry only ambush? It would be great fun and there is support for it. Don't give me the "It does not fit in with EVE lore". The entire mode of ambush does not fit in with EVE lore. F**k - the whole game does not fit in with eve lore if we want to be technical!
Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads.
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni...
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Posted - 2014.02.25 06:46:00 -
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Tankers don't wanna separate ambush mode because they will play that ambush alone without infantry (maybe except few forge/remote users). All railguns :) |
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Justice Darling
Themis Argonauts
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:00:00 -
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also why does ambush have smart deploy its anything but, it would be better if it was more random the dumb deploy into the enemy hands, If you ask me its anything but smart |
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Tau Lai
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:04:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:So was just in an ambush with none other than the infamous duna. They had 7 tanks. Seriously, this needs to be sorted. There is never a need to have more than 3-4 tanks in a battle ever. It makes it completely one sided and it sucks the fun out of the game when you cant spawn at all without being shot by an ion cannon. CCP please sort this out.
Since tanks are balanced, It doesn't matter if there are 7 or 16 tanks in game. It is balanced. Ironic mode OFF. |
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:08:00 -
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I repeat..... HAV limits
2 in Ambush 3 in Domination 4 in Skirmish
Until enough people agree and push CCP to do this,
Enjoy the Tank spam !!!!
Plasma Cannons works, any less drawbacks
And I would have an Atomic Bomber on my shoulder
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:12:00 -
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What's happening is that players are choosing the more appropriate suit for the task at hand.
The task is to slay infantry and there is one suit that does so far better than all the rest. It has far more eHP, DPS, and speed than every other suit in the game. It costs about as much as an ADV suit of any other type so it's an economical choice.
You my call it a tank, but I call it a suit because it is worn by a single person, has a main weapon that is built to slay infantry, and fills exactly the same role.
Anyone not choosing that suit is either too late for the team cap or is being foolishly stubborn. |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:18:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I repeat..... HAV limits
2 in Ambush 3 in Domination 4 in Skirmish
Until enough people agree and push CCP to do this,
Enjoy the Tank spam !!!!
Artificial caps on otherwise OP suits is not the way.
Tanks need to be given a different role than infantry so they fill a different need. It shouldn't be a race to see who gets the OP suit this match. Make them good at something infantry can't do and poor at competing with the infantry's job and you will see a natural cap on usage. People will judge that it's better to run infantry than bring out a fourth tank.
Right now a tank trumps every other suit, so there's no reason not to choose it. |
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:10:00 -
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they should limit veciles in separate tiers. for example. light tier having a large quota. medium limited to 3. and large limited to 2. not just for ambush. skirm and dom also
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