DUST Search - Playing without scanners?

Heathen Bastard wrote:

COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:

People who call scanners a crutch are just stuck in the old ways and are only going to be able to block their ears and 'lalalalala' for so long.

They are the first of many systems that will encompass electronic warfare. People can choose to not use them so that they can feel good about themselves but unless CCP have scrapped this element of combat, ewar is coming and will play a big role on the battlefield.

Advanced scanning displaying frame size
Tacnet denial
Tacnet intel manipulation
Voice comms denial

These were just a few examples given by CCP Remnant at FF last year. Feel free to rely just on your senses when the enemy squad has shut off your minimap, can see where you are, what you are and which way your facing with a couple of stealthed up scouts heading your way.

I personally love situational awareness mechanics and will be specialising in all forms of intel gathering/denial/manipulation on my main.

Yeah, here's the thing, I don't need a tacnet to punch through your skull with my knives while you flail helplessly because your scanners aren't picking me up. I use these old things called my eyes. Sure, they don't see through walls nearly as easily, but they're also remarkably hard to fool. And I'll be cloaked, so good luck, and remember: always check your six every second or two, because that's all a scout needs to rip you in half.


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COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 317	Posted - 2014.02.23 06:46:00 - [1] - Quote People who call scanners a crutch are just stuck in the old ways and are only going to be able to block their ears and 'lalalalala' for so long. They are the first of many systems that will encompass electronic warfare. People can choose to not use them so that they can feel good about themselves but unless CCP have scrapped this element of combat, ewar is coming and will play a big role on the battlefield. Advanced scanning displaying frame size Tacnet denial Tacnet intel manipulation Voice comms denial These were just a few examples given by CCP Remnant at FF last year. Feel free to rely just on your senses when the enemy squad has shut off your minimap, can see where you are, what you are and which way your facing with a couple of stealthed up scouts heading your way. I personally love situational awareness mechanics and will be specialising in all forms of intel gathering/denial/manipulation on my main. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 318	Posted - 2014.02.23 07:19:00 - [2] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: People who call scanners a crutch are just stuck in the old ways and are only going to be able to block their ears and 'lalalalala' for so long. They are the first of many systems that will encompass electronic warfare. People can choose to not use them so that they can feel good about themselves but unless CCP have scrapped this element of combat, ewar is coming and will play a big role on the battlefield. Advanced scanning displaying frame size Tacnet denial Tacnet intel manipulation Voice comms denial These were just a few examples given by CCP Remnant at FF last year. Feel free to rely just on your senses when the enemy squad has shut off your minimap, can see where you are, what you are and which way your facing with a couple of stealthed up scouts heading your way. I personally love situational awareness mechanics and will be specialising in all forms of intel gathering/denial/manipulation on my main. Yeah, here's the thing, I don't need a tacnet to punch through your skull with my knives while you flail helplessly because your scanners aren't picking me up. I use these old things called my eyes. Sure, they don't see through walls nearly as easily, but they're also remarkably hard to fool. And I'll be cloaked, so good luck, and remember: always check your six every second or two, because that's all a scout needs to rip you in half. I'm also a scout, my inherent situational awareness is fine and I have sunk my own Novie Wovies into many whose S.A isn't so fine but I'm not going to run from ewar so I can beat my chest over not using it. It's another aspect of D514 that sets it apart from the rest and I'm all for it. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 320	Posted - 2014.02.23 09:47:00 - [3] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Knowing is half the battle, because KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! Don't be silly, this is war and no war was ever fought with intel on the enemy. KNOWLEDGE IS A CRUTCH! Nope, all the l33t armies and soldiers of the past denied all intel so they could just rely on their senses and feel super O.G. DUST is no different, it's clearly not a tactical game with varying countervailable mechanics, it's just a test of unaided situational awareness. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 341	Posted - 2014.02.24 08:02:00 - [4] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: People who call scanners a crutch are just stuck in the old ways and are only going to be able to block their ears and 'lalalalala' for so long. They are the first of many systems that will encompass electronic warfare. People can choose to not use them so that they can feel good about themselves but unless CCP have scrapped this element of combat, ewar is coming and will play a big role on the battlefield. Advanced scanning displaying frame size Tacnet denial Tacnet intel manipulation Voice comms denial These were just a few examples given by CCP Remnant at FF last year. Feel free to rely just on your senses when the enemy squad has shut off your minimap, can see where you are, what you are and which way your facing with a couple of stealthed up scouts heading your way. I personally love situational awareness mechanics and will be specialising in all forms of intel gathering/denial/manipulation on my main. Now, if we had any of those counters to scanners, then there's be no problem. But since we have none of those, the scanner is uncounterable, leaving anybody open to see anybody else within 100m Dude, what are you talking about? Profile dampeners are your counter. People want to have their cake and eat it too, running around with heaps of armor and resources for damage mods. They hate scanners because the counter to intel gathering requires them to sacrifice their killing/staying power. I counter scanner all the time, infact even as a ******* logi with maxed electronics tree skills I was RARELY scanned. People just don't want to adapt to the intel element of the game...not that I give a damn because I like it and it's not going anywhere. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War