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nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
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Posted - 2014.02.23 08:48:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:There is actually a shortage of dedicated logibros. Most of them would rather be slayers. So sadly finding a good dedicated logi is always difficult.
Play with better people. If you're getting yelled at for not needling or repping then you're playing with idiots. I won't put on my dedicated logi fit unless I'm with people I trust.
The logi drought is only going to get worse in 1.8 because a dedicated logibro will have to be more dedicated than ever before. Having to make a racial choice in order to be an effective repper. (Minmatar for life!)
So if your tired of being a logibro I would suggest taking a break from it, or go to a different corp. Some places respect dedicated logibros.
Well we are in the same aliance
hell most if not all logis are slayers idk how many matches ive ever gone into where my squad was the only one carrying uplinks but eh it is what it is i find being dedicated to one role is far easier than branching off into to many things me i love my RE n tanks hate me for it. i feel u though but allot of people love to armor stack their logis cause of armor rep bonus n low slots making caldari logis rare since they cant be used as slayers as much since nerf so ccp removing rep bonus might be a good thing |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1752
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Posted - 2014.02.23 12:40:00 -
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Aziagarth Haus wrote:Playing as a heavy, I practically facehug logis and never complain unless they intentionally get themselves killed for no apparent reason beyond ***** 'n giggles or revive me in a horde of enemies to just get killed in the snap of a finger.
People who do complain about logis for things like what the OP said are a special breed of stupid. You'd be surprised how often a Heavy (or whoever I am actively repping for that matter) will just run off blindly and die all with me repping them. While they are owning reddots because I am keeping them actively repped, I apparently don't exist. After they've ran out of range and get cut down and they're like "IDK what happened, I was doing so good". Something else I absolutely love is when they're so ******* busy searching for reddots to chase after that they totally miss the ones who have flanked us and are killing me.
Armorwalker is such a thankless job.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
155
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Posted - 2014.02.23 12:53:00 -
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I specd my main into minlogi because I'm a horrible shot but still wanted to help the team. All mlt hives and uplinks. What a waste. Afterwards I found I could get the same thing done for less ISK with a mm mlt light thats more maneuverable and way more fun to play. I have nevr used reppers cause after watching the logibro eat it 10 times one match I was like, "Yeah, I'm all set on that"
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
415
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:24:00 -
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When I'm with randoms I agree. When I'm with a squad I can top out the leader boards. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1141
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:34:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Support your team because you want the juicy juicy WP to.
Withdraw support from the whining fools. I started being a logi because I wanted to help my team, now It really just is for the WPs, I easily top the leaderboard every match. I just dont feel like anyone deserves my expert logi skills know what I mean? I feel your pain bro! If I'm with a squad that doesn't need/ want/ complains about my support I go do my own thing. Its not very often. I don't do it for the wp I so it because that's what we need to win. If you ever complain about me picking you up that's fine you get no support from me. If ppl don't appreciate you find a different team we are always looking for a good logi! We need to revolt. We are the ones in charge, they aren't.
vaginas rule the world
Who wants some?
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Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
239
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:00:00 -
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When I am solo or in a squad of people I don't know I usually focus on slaying and keep any logistics to when people ask for it. Except for uplinks that is, I always run those at the beginning of every match and bank the WP for the rest of the match on them. Especially in a hard fought domination, 2k WP easy and up to 3-4k if I am with my usual squad mates.
Me and my heavy buddy I play with have come to an understanding. While it sucks you are without logi support in the start of the game, my uplinks are more important because they benefit the whole team. Next I will do my best to keep you alive, including revives if possible, but in return you (the heavy) need to not get blinders on and think yourself invulnerable because then you get us both killed. Seriously though, just because you are getting repped doesn't mean you can't die. Taking on 3 other people, one of whom is also a heavy, won't work! Then I die too :/ |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3049
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:15:00 -
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I seem to be spending more time in my scout suits because of this.
// Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4121
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:17:00 -
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Scout here.
I find you uplink logis disgusting. I spend time finding the perfect place to put down an uplink just to have one of you idiots charge through the area throwing them in every random direction so it's not even possible to figure out where my safe one is.
I am your scan error.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1753
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:19:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Scout here.
I find you uplink logis disgusting. I spend time finding the perfect place to put down an uplink just to have one of you idiots charge through the area throwing them in every random direction so it's not even possible to figure out where my safe one is. Hate me if you want, I don't randomly throw them.....
I drop them on top of the "safe ones" thrown by others.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1411
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:22:00 -
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im dropping logi next build as well
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
348
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:23:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Scout here.
I find you uplink logis disgusting. I spend time finding the perfect place to put down an uplink just to have one of you idiots charge through the area throwing them in every random direction so it's not even possible to figure out where my safe one is.
Don't mater bro, nyan uplink spam for the win =ƒÿû
War never changes
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IR Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
115
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Posted - 2014.02.23 15:45:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:Heavies should just have the option to give logis a piggyback ride while the logi reps them.
Can I yell out "Who run bartertown!?!" while I'm riding him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgq4w4dqKsU |
SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK
43
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Posted - 2014.02.23 16:39:00 -
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I feel your pain brother. It does appear at times that we are man wh****, and unfortunately it is only going to get worse.There are sqaud mates who truly appreciate us and with the heavy additions we are going to be needed even more, so all of us support logis are going to have to take a bite of the sh## sandwich (again) we will prevail because our teams need us., and if they continue then consider moving on, we do this to have fun not to get our balls broken by people who forgot what this is about. |
Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
517
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Posted - 2014.02.23 16:50:00 -
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"Who run bartertown!?" Lol
But yeah its being treated like a man wh*** that really turns loging off for me, even if saving peaple from near death makes me feel awsome
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, these is wine as far as the eye can see.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2233
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:11:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:[rant] -Im tired of being the only one to equip uplinks in a domination match
-Im Tired of people running at full sprint away from me when Im tring to rep them and they have like 1 armor hp left (yeah thanks for you plans to nerf rep tools rep range in 1.8 CCP)
-Im tired of not having a sidearm even tho I have SMG lvl 5 and Prof 3
-Im tired of Team mates b*tching me out if I revive them and an unforseen sniper takes them out, then B*tching next match that I didnt revive them even tho a entire enemy squad was right on top of their body.
-im tired of having to kill tanks on objectives with flux / Remotes combo while all my team mates hide and whine about their swarms being nerfed.
-Im tired of having a minmatar Logi which is suposed to be kinda quick but havign to brick tank it with armor so I dont get ista killed by stray bullets.
-And Im REALLY tired of people yellign "where is my logi suposrt!?" when I am obviously doing all the things above, and they decide to run off and be Leroy
Even tho I have advocated aginst respecs in the past, im all for them now because Im skilling into a caldari sentinal+comando and running solo, and when we get redlined because no one broguht uplinks ill chill in the MCC and drink a nice cup of tea.
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Anyone else tired of this thankless job then get labeled Slayer logi when you kill a few people with your weapon?
You Logi SCUM make me sick. You have one job, and that is to support me so I secure the "w". Just be happy CCP is gracious with there WP bonuses
When I say ammo, you say triage, regular, or both
When I say SCANS, you say at which objective
When I say Uplinks, you say how many
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1756
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:18:00 -
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Just ignore the troll, both here and in matches elsewise he'll stick around.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1079
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:03:00 -
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1000% agree
although my corp mates appreciate it not many others do really and the changes have be disillusioned with the role. been seeking out other roles but nothing compares to the fun of being a logi for me so i dont know whats going to happen to me after 1.8 nerf train hits me
I will logi the s* out of you
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Yeeeuuuupppp
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
113
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:08:00 -
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That is why I don't actually logi even though I'm in a logi suit. You pretty much described why I'm so broke.. Chasing blue berries to repair them and run into a crowd of enemies. Selfish bastards.
My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.
Novice incubus pilot.
Feel the wrath of my troll.
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Gooch Hair
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:40:00 -
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To be honest, i enjoy it. I love the fact i can help my team mates get big scores whilst being nicely rewarded in WP's. However, it does frustrate me that nanohives and scanners are rarely used by anyone else on my team. It would be nice for someone else just to put on a scanner whilst im up the ass of 2 heavys for an entire game trying to keep them ammo filled, repped, and back on their feet if they go down.
Its hard graft at times, but you definitely have those games where you know you made the difference for your team.
You've been Gooched.
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
201
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Posted - 2014.02.24 04:14:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:
You Logi SCUM make me sick. You have one job, and that is to support me so I secure the "w". Just be happy CCP is gracious with there WP bonuses
When I say ammo, you say triage, regular, or both
When I say SCANS, you say at which objective
When I say Uplinks, you say how many
Ammo? Sure here u go... oh 3 commandos just ran past and instantly drained our last hive, bummer.
Scans? Still on cooldown from last time bro sorry.
Uplinks? Ok, flanking, bye. Have fun on the front line.
1.8 should be interesting, hopefully less equip spam, more intense firefights, if ttk is significantly lowered it could be a whole lot of fun.
Less QQ more PewPew
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Eberk Baldek
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2014.02.24 07:16:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:[rant] -Im tired of being the only one to equip uplinks in a domination match
-Im Tired of people running at full sprint away from me when Im tring to rep them and they have like 1 armor hp left (yeah thanks for you plans to nerf rep tools rep range in 1.8 CCP)
-Im tired of not having a sidearm even tho I have SMG lvl 5 and Prof 3
-Im tired of Team mates b*tching me out if I revive them and an unforseen sniper takes them out, then B*tching next match that I didnt revive them even tho a entire enemy squad was right on top of their body.
-im tired of having to kill tanks on objectives with flux / Remotes combo while all my team mates hide and whine about their swarms being nerfed.
-Im tired of having a minmatar Logi which is suposed to be kinda quick but havign to brick tank it with armor so I dont get ista killed by stray bullets.
-And Im REALLY tired of people yellign "where is my logi suposrt!?" when I am obviously doing all the things above, and they decide to run off and be Leroy
Even tho I have advocated aginst respecs in the past, im all for them now because Im skilling into a caldari sentinal+comando and running solo, and when we get redlined because no one broguht uplinks ill chill in the MCC and drink a nice cup of tea.
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Anyone else tired of this thankless job then get labeled Slayer logi when you kill a few people with your weapon?
Yea, if we get an SP refund, I may give up on Logis in the short-term. I have a heck of a time for a few of your reasons and a couple of my own. I'm not sure whether the Caldari Sentinel will be a good idea because my feeling is that it will be initially OP, then will eventually be nerffed.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
161
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:12:00 -
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I will be getting more dedicated to Logistics when 1.8 drops. I figure with the new heavy builds a dedicated repper will be much appreciated. Then again I already know who those heavies are.
If I were smart I'd be stock piling Repulic Core Focus rep tools, but I'm not. So I'll be riding around in my Rail Jeep with a Forge Gun, hunting tanks.
We can pickle that.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2111
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:02:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:There is actually a shortage of dedicated logibros. Most of them would rather be slayers. So sadly finding a good dedicated logi is always difficult.
Play with better people. If you're getting yelled at for not needling or repping then you're playing with idiots. I won't put on my dedicated logi fit unless I'm with people I trust.
The logi drought is only going to get worse in 1.8 because a dedicated logibro will have to be more dedicated than ever before. Having to make a racial choice in order to be an effective repper. (Minmatar for life!)
So if your tired of being a logibro I would suggest taking a break from it, or go to a different corp. Some places respect dedicated logibros.
Well we are in the same aliance
Yeah dude, I think what you need is a corp with fewer a$$holes more than a change in class.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1711
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:49:00 -
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I kinda like being the only person placing uplinks in a domination, especially if I'm playing with someone who can fly a dropship. It typically means I'll be near the top of the leaderboard without firing a shot, and with my proto uplinks I don't have to spend all my time placing the things.
Links - The uplink nerf is going to do very good things for how matches play out. Right now the only real reason to use the proto uplinks, most of the time, is the higher spawn count. When I die and go to the map by the time I'm able to select a spawn point every uplink says 3 seconds (even the STD level ones). Spawn times overall need to be higher for that difference to be a factor more than occasionally. It'll also stop squads from using the clown car defense, where they fill up an area with links and then smother an attacking squad with cloned bodies. An amarr logi with proto links will be able to place useful forward spawns like that, but that's just one person...not every dude on the team throwing down an R-9 or better within 20 meters of the objective. That means it'll still be easier to secure the area while making the play style of the Amarr logi distinct. Overall this one nerf will improve the flow of the battle.
Hives - I'm hoping that with the fitting cost reduction logis get it means that non-logis will have to make real sacrifices to run higher than standard level hives / links. That means even if you're in a non-Caldari logi you'll still be better for placing hives than most people. The Caldari bonus will be nice on repping hives.
Rep tools - The one nerf I think was a bad idea, though if TTK is slowed down enough it might be fine. As it stands they don't repair nearly fast enough. They're so underused right now because of how weak they are overall. The only time they make a real difference is if someone gets revived by a low level injector. The only time I actually use my rep tools during a fight is when I'm heavy-humping in a corridor. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
404
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:51:00 -
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I'm tired of going 0/0 and getting thousands of WP.
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50LD13R
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:00:00 -
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I have all of my equipment to Adv (even REs), and now I'm so discouraged by the proposed changes, I can't even bring myself to play this character. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2792
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:14:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:-And Im REALLY tired of people yellign "where is my logi suposrt!?" when I am obviously doing all the things above, and they decide to run off and be Leroy
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SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK
45
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:26:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Scout here.
I find you uplink logis disgusting. I spend time finding the perfect place to put down an uplink just to have one of you idiots charge through the area throwing them in every random direction so it's not even possible to figure out where my safe one is. Support logi here and I am particular to where I place the few uplinks that I put down during a match. Please don't lump us together with spammers, they are in every fitting and a experienced support logi will not waste spamming any equipment. For shame sir hang your head low for that generalization. |
Ku Shala
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
881
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:49:00 -
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18 million invested in dropsuit upgrades and this equipment nerf is a huge slap in the face as well as the input lag on the mouse, logi bro forever Isk please! (logi luvs for logibros)
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The States Necromancer
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
537
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:12:00 -
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I think the reason most people dont have more respect for logibros is because
A: nanohives and scanners can esily be fit on any assult suit and suplly depo equipment spam means there is usualy plenty of normal and reppng hives laying about, yet their own switched to a slayer suit right after droping them so hes not even a real logibro.
B: nanite injecters need to have higher fitting and not have a malita variant, to stop people fitting them just for extra points, noob revives in firefight ruin the good name of all compotent logibros everywhere.
C: and ofcourse slayer logis running by people in need because they have no reps, and or injecters make people think most logis are only out for themselves.
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, these is wine as far as the eye can see.
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