DUST Search - Forge Gun on Infantry

buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:

Henchmen21 wrote:

There's a ~210K difference in price between proto FG's and rail turrets. The proto rail gets 1885 damage with splash damage of 234 within 2.0M. The IAFG gets 1500 damage 277 splash within 2.1M. With the still cheaper Kaalakiota just dropping a bit of damage. If you ask me that 200isk difference should mean that the FG only gets a .75M splash. You all want to talk like FG sniping is hard when you get this huge reticule and a instant hit projectile. Maybe I am just tired of it taking a thousand times more skill and luck to even land a PLC shot near a FG user just to have him kill me with the easy mode FG.

FG is not easymode, trust me, i have proto. Also, rail has 3x the range, 2.25x the mag cap, way less charge time, and can go on a tank with over 5k health. Killing FGers with a PLC is actually pretty easy considering they are heavies, which is one thing a PLC destroys (if you have skill), as well as the fact that the PLC has less than a second charge time.

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Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 118	Posted - 2014.02.23 00:36:00 - [31] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Take a Little ball of tape and stick it to the center of your reticle. I remember people saying it ALWAYS hit dead center. IDK, don't play heavy, maybe they changed that? It still hits dead centre but often your targets are so small that the tape would cover them.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 646	Posted - 2014.02.23 00:46:00 - [32] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: There's a ~210K difference in price between proto FG's and rail turrets. The proto rail gets 1885 damage with splash damage of 234 within 2.0M. The IAFG gets 1500 damage 277 splash within 2.1M. With the still cheaper Kaalakiota just dropping a bit of damage. If you ask me that 200isk difference should mean that the FG only gets a .75M splash. You all want to talk like FG sniping is hard when you get this huge reticule and a instant hit projectile. Maybe I am just tired of it taking a thousand times more skill and luck to even land a PLC shot near a FG user just to have him kill me with the easy mode FG. FG is not easymode, trust me, i have proto. Also, rail has 3x the range, 2.25x the mag cap, way less charge time, and can go on a tank with over 5k health. Killing FGers with a PLC is actually pretty easy considering they are heavies, which is one thing a PLC destroys (if you have skill), as well as the fact that the PLC has less than a second charge time. It is easy mode, if the projectile moved slower, or there was the slightest bullet drop I wouldn't say so but if it's red it's dead, that's easy mode. CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1774	Posted - 2014.02.23 00:50:00 - [33] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Take a Little ball of tape and stick it to the center of your reticle. I remember people saying it ALWAYS hit dead center. IDK, don't play heavy, maybe they changed that? It still hits dead centre but often your targets are so small that the tape would cover them. Ahh, mmk. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
negative49er Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 510	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:10:00 - [34] - Quote Ok now get back into your time machine and go back to the past Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 485	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:13:00 - [35] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. They really need to change forge direct hit damage to infantry to 500 Its so cheap to 1 shot people and they cant fight back. 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 541	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:16:00 - [36] - Quote Let's say the only thing that a Ground forger need to know to shot moving infantry and Lav Pilot. The Forge is not hitscan. That all you need to know young padawan and may the FORGE be with you. Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 541	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:18:00 - [37] - Quote NK Scout wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. They really need to change forge direct hit damage to infantry to 500 Its so cheap to 1 shot people and they cant fight back. I'm on ground Fighting a bunch of moving/strafing Aimassist OP AR scrub users with a NO HITSCAN, NO AIMASSIST weapon in the biggest HITBOX. Nerf the forge. Seem legit Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 485	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:19:00 - [38] - Quote Jastad wrote: NK Scout wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. They really need to change forge direct hit damage to infantry to 500 Its so cheap to 1 shot people and they cant fight back. I'm on ground Fighting a bunch of moving/strafing Aimassist OP AR scrub users with a NO HITSCAN, NO AIMASSIST weapon in the biggest HITBOX. Nerf the forge. Seem legit BUT Buff its splash radius so you dont have to be 1 shotted 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 153	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:20:00 - [39] - Quote Put 2 sp into fg that I consider wasted. When the game runs smoothly I can hit moving reds easy. You just have to lead 'em. I clay shoot, it's like that. Shiity thing is how often does this game not glitch out? It's why I regret not going with all 'spray and pray' guns.. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 542	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:20:00 - [40] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Jastad wrote: NK Scout wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. They really need to change forge direct hit damage to infantry to 500 Its so cheap to 1 shot people and they cant fight back. I'm on ground Fighting a bunch of moving/strafing Aimassist OP AR scrub users with a NO HITSCAN, NO AIMASSIST weapon in the biggest HITBOX. Nerf the forge. Seem legit BUT Buff its splash radius so you dont have to be 1 shotted No splash radius was the weapon of the tower camping scrubbers. Good & Ground forger rely on Direct HIT. Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...

MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 515	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:42:00 - [41] - Quote NK Scout wrote: They really need to change forge direct hit damage to infantry to 500 Its so cheap to 1 shot people and they cant fight back. They really need to lower the damage on nova knives Its so cheap to get two-swiped by someone who doesn't show up on my radar before I can even turn around and fight back
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 1102	Posted - 2014.02.23 01:54:00 - [42] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. OOOh, was it me? oh please let it be me! Finally recognition for being a camping douchebag. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Tectonic Fusion 1101	Posted - 2014.02.23 02:33:00 - [43] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: I tried it before, using a FG against Infantry is like crossing your fingers & hope you kill them instead of them killing you... I'm going to give away the super secret tip that separates the scrubs from the pros when it comes to FG sniping. Everyone who is good with FG knows this, and everyone who sucks with the FG does not. Some FG users even jealously guard this secret, fearing they'll get nerfed should it be more widely known. Are you ready? Do you think you can handle it? Do you think the world is ready to know? The secret to sniping infantry with the FG, in one snappy maxim, is: If your crosshairs are red, the fuer's dead. ED: Damn you Prometheus for stealing my thunder. If they are moving at less than 40m, you can predict where they will walk/run. Solo Player Squad status: Locked**
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 03:10:00 - [44] - Quote If it was OP FotM scrubs would be using it, but they're not, they're running CR,RR and using Remote Spam and detonating them after death. As a forger you're a big target to get sniped, railed, and counter forged. You're restricted to hip fire and a reticule without a dot, relying on the red colour, you have no sights, not even the slightest zoom. You're largely reliant on your squads scans to even see where to fire and often I have to take a pot shot below the chevron at a target I cant see. The splash damage is minimal with small range and can only nab weak scouts. You're seeing forges sniping infantry now because of the event. I've already racked up the 300 HMG kills but it will take me twice as long to get 300 forge kills. If you get forged with a direct hit >100m likely the forger couldn't even see you. If it's less than that he's not far from RR range so what's the problem? And if you get forged at CQC you should admire them, with a long charge time it's damn hard to pull off. [/thread]
Toby Flenderson research lab 283	Posted - 2014.02.23 03:25:00 - [45] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. Wait so you acknowledge that it's nearly impossible to kill infantry with a FG but you also think it's noobish to do so?
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 466	Posted - 2014.02.23 03:44:00 - [46] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: We have been nerfed for this before. Everyone hates the FG until 6tanks roll up. You are whiney bitches. Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Toby Flenderson research lab 284	Posted - 2014.02.23 03:47:00 - [47] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. Hahaha, oh god... this was me :@ I had some pretty sweet shots that match though Mr.Kyle. Keep in mind ALL I do is Forge (and Flaylock) and with my Forge being Completly maxed out.... yaaa you should be in trouble when you start seeing my name pop up in the kill feed. Haha every time I see a thread like this I always think "yeah it was probably Rom".
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion 663	Posted - 2014.02.23 04:57:00 - [48] - Quote If forge guns vs infantry is such a problem, just make the reticle only turn red for vehicles and buildings. Selling dust codes!
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 149	Posted - 2014.02.23 05:01:00 - [49] - Quote Forge tips. When forge sniping get your aim level with the body of the targets then strafe to home in on the target. If you try to aim side to side the adjustments are typically too much and you'll spend too much time trying to fine tune the aim. Shooting into tight groups is a good way to get multikills. If you have a buddy with a seat on his tank ride with him. Having a forger ride shotgun in a tank is like having two main turrets. Always have an LAV handy. You cannot chase a dying tank on foot. Carry AV grenades you big dummy. It's way faster than reloading after your clip is empty and I've taken down plenty of tanks by dealing the death blow with a couple of grenades. If you know which way a tank is going to run away in. Preemptively throw down all your AV grenades behind it before you fire your first forge shot. When he goes to run away that damage spike from the three grenades is a killer. If you can camp a point: DO IT. Dropships will go away when you hit them. Their movements are pretty slow when changing directions and you can lead them pretty easily. Killing me pro tips: If I'm forging you from within 80 meters and we're both on the ground. You better stay moving and watch my charge time. Bunny hopping will keep me from splash killing you at close range. Your rifle will kill me at a greater distance than my sub machine gun can kill you. Don't run up on me like I won't head shot you to death with a toxin sub. Stay at a good distance...as in when you see me switch to a sub machine gun, stop moving forward. You have the advantage at that point. Forge gun on forge gun violence is the best. If I'm killing ground troops and you disintegrate my face with your forge gun. I had it coming. So props to you for getting me before I got you. We can pickle that.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 766	Posted - 2014.02.23 05:12:00 - [50] - Quote Froge gun sniping is fine. The forge already received a HUGE nerf as it is, both to direct damage (Which has not helped with the way tanks are now) and a much bigger nerf to splash range and damage. Now I can shoot off a forge right next to someone's foot and it does nothing. Forge sniping takes skill but above all patience. If you dont want to be forge sniped then dont stand still. Hitting a moving target with a forge gun is very hard work indeed. There is NO problem with forges. I think forges need a little more splash range. Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads. ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB

Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 80	Posted - 2014.02.23 05:21:00 - [51] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. I call my Ishukone Assault Forge Gun, "The Ganker." Unleash the Fogwoggler
Mike Ox Bigger The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 134	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:58:00 - [52] - Quote Killing infantry with a forge gun is easy. Just hold the button and highlight the enemy, let go when orange. Killing intrantry with an assault forge gun is hard. I respect you, but I'm never sure if it was skill or luck. Usually when I kill someone with an assault forge it's luck if they weren't standing completely still.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 113	Posted - 2014.02.23 16:10:00 - [53] - Quote Shoot where you think your targets are going and watch him fly. I use controller so I can't say "Use mouse" as I never used it with a forge gun My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash. Novice incubus pilot. Feel the wrath of my troll.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 113	Posted - 2014.02.23 16:13:00 - [54] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: If forge guns vs infantry is such a problem, just make the reticle only turn red for vehicles and buildings. It's not a problem.... My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash. Novice incubus pilot. Feel the wrath of my troll.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2034	Posted - 2014.02.23 16:26:00 - [55] - Quote NK Scout wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Ok, this shocked me because i thought it was nearly impossible to kill Infantry with FGs, i jumped in a match recently & the opposing team had 1 FGer & he killed Infantry without breaking a sweat, at the time i thought to myself "he's either using aimbot or he's very skilled with FGs". I can't kill infantry with a FG it's not my thing plus i find it noobish to shoot at infantry with it. They really need to change forge direct hit damage to infantry to 500 Its so cheap to 1 shot people and they cant fight back. Thats ridiculous, 9/10 you can kill the heavy before he charges. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 31	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:15:00 - [56] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Always have an LAV handy. You cannot chase a dying tank on foot. Carry AV grenades you big dummy. It's way faster than reloading after your clip is empty and I've taken down plenty of tanks by dealing the death blow with a couple of grenades. Personally I carry flux grenades, they work against more stuff, plus last hitting with the forge is easier than with a grenade when the tank has run half way over the map... Not to mention how funny it is when a shield tank puts his hardeners up without any shields left, lol. Also not sure about using an LAV to chase a tank, it's usually better as tank bait, they will always shoot the LAV first, as if it's going to jump up and bite them if they leave it there.


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