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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.22 15:17:00 -
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This would create a supply and demand for clones as well as allowing non district owning corps the ability to buy 400 + clones to launch an attack giving them a legitimate chance at flipping a district without risk of being cloned because they only have 120 to play with.
This would likely also require the removal of automatic clone sales to ensure that profits from owing districts would have to come from a player market for selling clones and from winning PC matches.
however the biggest problem with this idea is that 40% of Molden Heath is owned by 2 corps.
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1172
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:20:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:
This would likely also require the removal of automatic clone sales to ensure that profits from owing districts would have to come from a player market for selling clones and from winning PC matches.
What would the purpose of PC be then? No one would bother buying clones if you could only make money from your district by selling clones to other people who, again, would never buy any because it makes no sense to.
If you read the entire post thoroughly you see have noticed these points but I will respond to you objections in order.
1) Whats the purpose of PC now? Locking districts and hording ISK? My idea would give actual meaning to holding land
2) You would profit from winning battles and I mean larger profits then we get now
3) Corps who don't own Districts would buy clones because they would be able to buy 400 clones to launch an attack as opposed to 120 which more often then not leads to being cloned except for elite corps. Also lets say you want to attack a district but your districts are so far away that you will lose a lot of clones due to clone attrition you could buy clones from a corp that has a nearby district to minimize clone attrition.
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1172
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:34:00 -
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Zatara I like that Idea it would go well with a player market as It would allow corps to profit from production of Officer weapons to sell on an open market or to distribute to members for the Purpose of PC use.
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.22 22:36:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:What would the purpose of PC be then? No one would bother buying clones if you could only make money from your district by selling clones to other people who, again, would never buy any because it makes no sense to. 1) Whats the purpose of PC now? hording ISK? Uh, yes? Are you just now realizing this? Quote:2) You would profit from winning battles and I mean larger profits then we get now That's fine, I'm not disagreeing with this point. Quote:3) Corps who don't own Districts would buy clones because they would be able to buy 400 clones to launch an attack as opposed to 120 which more often then not leads to being cloned except for elite corps. Also lets say you want to attack a district but your districts are so far away that you will lose a lot of clones due to clone attrition you could buy clones from a corp that has a nearby district to minimize clone attrition. Corps without a district would never buy a district if the only purpose was to produce clones to sell to other people. I think you're assuming there would be some infinite demand for clones, which there wouldn't be if you couldn't sell them to an NPC for ISK. 245 districts--how many clones do you think people are going to be buying a day? You'd either devalue clones so much as to make them dirt cheap (which again, defeats the purpose of having a district in the first place) or you only have a very select few people selling clones, which defeats the purpose of having a district for 90% of the people who own them. If the primary purpose of PC is to make ISK, which it is, and you take that away, why would anyone buy clones to take districts? There needs to be more to the original plan.
Dude you are thinking way too small and I guess you like the current broken system and have nothing to contribute to create solutions so its just better to shoot down ideas but I will address your concerns anyway.
1) You asked what the purpose of PC would be so I addressed it, now it means nothing other than an ISK printer. I'm throwing out an Idea to give it meaning.
3) I liked zatara's Idea about producing officer weapons so that would be the reason to hold land, also you would generate ISK not including selling clones to other corps but by WINNING Battles either on your land or by attacking, do you really like making ISK from by doing nothing?
Also you completely ignored my points about clone attrition make holding land in different areas more important by increasing clone attrition.
If I want to take someones districts but I'm going to lose 50% of my clones in transit because its so far away I might rather buy clones from a nearby district and that corp launch the attack in my name because they may be on the same planet or solar system and have far less clone attrition.
Corps with no land would buy clones because would you rather send 120 clones and have to re-attack 3 days in row only to have the best of the best ringers hired and lose because you got cloned in the final attack or would you rather buy 400 clones from a corp launch the attack and have the chance to flip it all in one day?
The reason I wanted to remove clone packs is because they are part of the problem of district locking but we could keep them and making making corp owned clones more enticing because you can get a lot more.
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1173
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Posted - 2014.02.23 00:56:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:I honestly haven't read all the posts yet, so I maybe repeating, but what if a corp went to STB or Molon and said ' I'd like 300 clones to attack district _____. ' someone fairies the attacking team in (lulz) leaving only one guy from the 'host corp'. He could fight or FC if the price is right. You could make it slightly more expensive than a clone pack and send an email to the defending corp telling them wusup. I'm starting to really like this idea...
They wouldn't have to ferry anyone in, it would be like a clone pack attack just with clones bought from another corp.
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