#ADAPTORDIE
#HTFU

Mini games to play: Meleeing people in the red line.
Crushing people on roofs with drop ships
Hacking useless installations in the red line

I'm sorry that you did not have fun with us tower forgegunning earlier :(

Redline and roof camping is terrible, but what do you expect when you profit more doing these things where you're at little risk instead of trying to actually win the match on the ground?

Sure, you might lose the match, but the difference in payouts is negligible, and when you're at little risk you end up with a higher profit than if you had pushed for the win and thus died more.

Record 6 OB's in one match with me and three others. I have been loving this heavy event. I capped first day and have been playing to add to my kill count. So I have to say most matches have been blood baths for me and has come down to clones. So I am glad the crap matches are few and far between.

There should be a null cannon 20 meters into the enemy red line. It should only be able to be hacked if all the other null cannons are blue. It should deal MCC damage equal to all the other null cannons combined.

I think the losing team in a pub should make a little bit more isk, but I don't think it will act as incentive for them to leave the red line.
I think the problem is a little more fundamental than simply being a matter of players making rational return calculations.

Truth is when we started playing this game, the playing field was pretty even as we all started pretty close to the same time frame meaning there was not so much of an SP gap between most of us.

Now you have new players coming into the game getting their shitter pushed in by guys with 35mil+ sp. Most of us did not go through that as the sp gap was not that substantial, so you can't argue that a lot of us went through it, we didn't. Yes once PC starts up again a lot of you will be battling each other again, but how do we fix the problems we have now?

Well, you can't make the blues leave the red line that don't want to, but some do and try to fight. Something I have tried is "not" putting uplinks on top of roofs. You may not have the high point but the blues won't spawn there and never come down either. I know it's not perfect but it does help. I see a lot of locked squads with two or three people in them, if these squads were unlocked some of the smart ones would join in. I play solo from time to time and see a lot of it. With an open squad those that want to try will join a squad and who knows, they may even have a mic and a little talent, just sayin.

If you see a couple randoms on NPC CORPS that tried and hung in there with you through the shitstorm, send them a gg with a squad invite, I'm just saying a little proactive from some of us vets will go a long way. A lot of the problem lies on CCP, but we can make an immediate difference right now with how we portray this game to the new players.

Yes, going 0/12 and being spawn camped is lots of fun. I don't know what these new guys are thinking. Look at the scoreboard sometime, and not just your squads. You will see that half of the players are just getting slaughtered or they give up and do nothing. It IS about incentives and there is little incentive to try against stompers.

Dying game. Red line is the only option for most new players. It won't take many weeks of that before they leave. Sh!t 3 games in a row would do it for me and I'm a vet with hundreds invested.

Or, here's an Idea, GET IT SO NEW PLAYERS DON'T NEED TO HIDE?

Increasing payouts will do nothing to solve any problem with matchmaking besides make pubstomping easier, and even more prevalent then it is now.