DUST Search - How turned off are you from the monthly-shifting FOTM meta?

Cinder Integ wrote:

FOTM occurs in nearly all games. It doesn't mean somthing is the best or that it doesn't have counters to it.

This is when "meta-game" comes into play. For instance,

When everyone specs into cloak and starts using it on scouts next patch, I will switch to the mass driver (wide radius varient) to decloak any and all shimmers. It will provide huge benefit to my team, and the opposing team will counter me with a number of weapon / suit / vehicle combination.

RR are not the end all be all weapon, and have a number of counter's which people are too stuborn to use.
-I personally prefer getting in an LAV and simply driving up to them, jumping out and killing.
-Another counter which took the longest time to learn because it's soo revolutionary... focus on points with more cqc... ie stop trying to run 100 meters in open area to get within 40-60 meters of RR-using target.

I don't think these concepts are hard to grasp, or maybe they just don't work and I'm lying to myself...

Please do tell me if I'm silly...

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deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 436	Posted - 2014.02.24 17:12:00 - [61] - Quote its actually more just trendy something new comes out people use it cause its new that floods kill board people assume lots of kills by it its good more people use it id actually like to see an avrg kd/r of each weapon Proud Christian add p2p already!
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1949	Posted - 2014.02.24 17:17:00 - [62] - Quote their will always be an op weapon/tool it's just the name of the game. so long as it keeps changing it stops the game from getting stale imo.
Cinder Integ Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 130	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:01:00 - [63] - Quote FOTM occurs in nearly all games. It doesn't mean somthing is the best or that it doesn't have counters to it. This is when "meta-game" comes into play. For instance, When everyone specs into cloak and starts using it on scouts next patch, I will switch to the mass driver (wide radius varient) to decloak any and all shimmers. It will provide huge benefit to my team, and the opposing team will counter me with a number of weapon / suit / vehicle combination. RR are not the end all be all weapon, and have a number of counter's which people are too stuborn to use. -I personally prefer getting in an LAV and simply driving up to them, jumping out and killing. -Another counter which took the longest time to learn because it's soo revolutionary... focus on points with more cqc... ie stop trying to run 100 meters in open area to get within 40-60 meters of RR-using target. I don't think these concepts are hard to grasp, or maybe they just don't work and I'm lying to myself... Please do tell me if I'm silly... Trading Carrots for Isk! Come and Get em!
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:16:00 - [64] - Quote The RR user finds himself in an advantageous spot quite often in open Ambush and Dom maps. The RR works really well cutting down people running across open ground. The RR is pretty well balanced in game modes/maps that have compound and outside areas. A AR or CR user should win most engagements against a RR when the fight takes place inside a compound. I'd be fine with more hipfire kick, but I don't think the RR is wildly over powered. -Aramis
Rusty Shallows 1024	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:11:00 - [65] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I have my own playstyle I don't need to copy anyone else. I stuck to my guns. Adapted through glitches, nerfs, and Hot-OP-Death. Looking back I should have sold out. Would have had a better KDR, more ISK and hate-mails. My Dust youth has been wasted. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Onesimus Tarsus 1234	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:19:00 - [66] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: There will always be a carrot. I have learned to hate carrots. I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here. cc2.27.13
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 420	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:21:00 - [67] - Quote Cinder Integ wrote: FOTM occurs in nearly all games. It doesn't mean somthing is the best or that it doesn't have counters to it. This is when "meta-game" comes into play. For instance, When everyone specs into cloak and starts using it on scouts next patch, I will switch to the mass driver (wide radius varient) to decloak any and all shimmers. It will provide huge benefit to my team, and the opposing team will counter me with a number of weapon / suit / vehicle combination. RR are not the end all be all weapon, and have a number of counter's which people are too stuborn to use. -I personally prefer getting in an LAV and simply driving up to them, jumping out and killing. -Another counter which took the longest time to learn because it's soo revolutionary... focus on points with more cqc... ie stop trying to run 100 meters in open area to get within 40-60 meters of RR-using target. I don't think these concepts are hard to grasp, or maybe they just don't work and I'm lying to myself... Please do tell me if I'm silly... You are being silly... Besides MD countering scouts hard. No real competitive match has vehicle cap room for LAVs. Rail rifle is the dominant point denial weapon in the game currently... Where once a mass driver shined, people now use rail rifles in its place. Consider rings map. The catwalk next to supply depot above A now sports That Guy with a rail rifle, denying the point until he is destroyed. As do any exposed outdoor points. Simply focusing on CQC points will result in losses 100% of the time on some maps. Avoiding a whole point because someone is using an OP weapon to defend it is not a counter. It is a balance issue. Oh and for CQC, the default choice becomes combat rifle with the same issues.
Chuckles Brown 157	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:33:00 - [68] - Quote FoTM's posterchild: milkman1 would disagree with all of this! lulz I've always spec'd into what I like using and what I feel comfortable with. Its never been FoTM stuff I spec into. So, I'm doing ti wrong and have got my a** kicked in matches because of it. The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial Do you pub, brah?
Rusty Shallows 1025	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:38:00 - [69] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Can't wait for commando 514 Oh the tears!!!!!! QUIET YOU-Z!!! When all the weapons are adjusted and the Big-Four Rifles somehow end up even better then the LAV driving Gangst'a Commando is going to draw some serious hate. Bur if we speak about this too openly other scrubs will join in. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1414	Posted - 2014.02.24 23:11:00 - [70] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: i dont spec fotm never have. sometimes the new fotm has been something i already had and then i cut down use out of boredom. i would agree with the statement that the ever changing fotm takes the fun out of infantry for me which is why i now tank spam Yea, it's boring and just plain annoying when it seems like everyone is doing the exact same thing. Gets monotonous. And I normally avoid the FotM but I did spec into RR because the increased range and huge increase in DPS made it more of an aggravation to avoid than it was worth. But that's mainly due to CCP really screwing the pooch with this one as I can't think of another time the FotM has been as overall superior as it is right now. Not unbeatable but superior in most situations. yeah rr is without a doubt the worse fotm we have ever had..its definitely putting me through my paces trying to avoid it tbh not much i can do anymore infantry wise..i stay in my tank where rr cant get to me A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics

Cinder Integ Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 132	Posted - 2014.02.24 23:44:00 - [71] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: You are being silly... Besides MD countering scouts hard. No real competitive match has vehicle cap room for LAVs. Rail rifle is the dominant point denial weapon in the game currently... Where once a mass driver shined, people now use rail rifles in its place. Consider rings map. The catwalk next to supply depot above A now sports That Guy with a rail rifle, denying the point until he is destroyed. As do any exposed outdoor points. Simply focusing on CQC points will result in losses 100% of the time on some maps. Avoiding a whole point because someone is using an OP weapon to defend it is not a counter. It is a balance issue. Oh and for CQC, the default choice becomes combat rifle with the same issues. Except you haven't been playing judging by your monthly leaderboards, so maybe you just are out of practice and/or your reasons are just assumptions. -With the exception of the begining of a match, (including pubs, and PCs), the vehicle cap of 6 is not typically filled. -The mass driver vs scouts was a counter to cloak, not just scouts (and more then just scouts can use cloak. (when you damage or flux a cloaked unit, it will decloak). -Rail Rifles may have an advantage in a few points, but most points still have major cqc ability. and rail rifles suffer against speed hacking due to typically being in an advantagess spot 40-60 meters away on most points. -CQC points dont require vehicle support, and in most PC vehicles have currently been fighting for the outside of the map due to the frequent use of (1 proximity / 3or4 re) traps people set in cities / on bridges. Or maybe I am silly. Trading Carrots for Isk! Come and Get em!
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 673	Posted - 2014.02.24 23:46:00 - [72] - Quote Aint this iteration ScR Dust? Scrubs hating on RR still cause their are more in circulation or what?


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