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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:42:00 -
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i have taken an unintended week long break from the forums, so i have no idea what's been going on in here recently. but anyway, let's get on to the topic at hand.
i was saving for shotgun proficiency 5, but then i realized 2 things.
1.) while i get really good scores with the shotgun almost every match, I'm trash with it, or moreover, I'm not as good as i want to be. I've seen people like Fusion Commander or Lightning xVx take on 3+ guys without a problem with a shotgun, but due to the sprinting bug and the fact that I'm trying to get used to playing with really high sensitivity, i usually can't fight more than 3 at a time, and i notice that a lot of my ambushes tend to fail, and i have to resort to pulling out my sidearm to finish them off.
2.) the heavy event will give me over 700,000 bonus sp, so that's an easy way to get it proficiency 5.
so instead, and purely for the lolz, i skilled into proto plasma cannons. the ONLY reason i did it was so that people could say, "wow, i just got killed by a proto plasma cannon." 
anyway, after excessive use with it, I've noticed how glaringly underpowered it is, and i'll make a list of what I've noticed about it.
1.) the switch from plasma cannon to sidearm is WAY too long. if you shoot the plasma cannon, then you have to wait between 1-2 seconds before you can change weapons or sprint, which is enough time for a rifle to deal over 700 damage to you. the suit I'm using it with has 410 ehp (150 shield 260 armor). this also means that the sprinting bug is worse on the plasma cannon than any other weapon, and it's obvious why that's a problem.
2.). clip size is too small. when you combine with the problem(s) listed above, you can see why this is also a problem.
My Solutions:
1.) decrease the time of switching from plasma cannon to sidearm after firing. the time it takes is arguably the longest in the game, for a weapon that is arguably the most underpowered.
2.) increase clip size to 2 at level 3 operation, and 3 at level 5 operation. before you start crying that it will be OP, think about it. a proto plasma cannon has roughly 313 base splash damage. without reload, the plasma cannon fire 1 shot roughly every 2 seconds. 2 seconds is enough time for a rifle to deal an insane amount of damage to you, so it's splash damage dps will be perfectly balanced. the only way it will be OP is if the user is good enough to always get direct hits.
just my 2 isk. if you disagree, explain why. don't just post some pointless one liner please.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:38:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Definitely a no on the clip size. Think about the damage being done after leveling it up with DMs...
313*1.15*1.18 = 425 roughly for splash with only the first shot. All that needs to be done is hop around until the next shot can be fired and then it's over for just about any medium suit. This would be way too OP for the small amount of skill it takes to hit someone with splash damage and jump.
It would also be ridiculous for AV. I'm in favor of increasing weapon swap speed but nothing with damage or clip size. It's usable in the right circumstances, even as a logi. Something should be changed but if we've learned anything it's that multiple buffs/nerds simultaneously is a bad idea That's assuming max proficiency, 2 dmg mods, proto cannon, AND hitting in the center of the explosion. Even with those stats any non explosive gun would kill faster
EXACTLY.
any other rifle would STILL out-dps it, and beat it at range.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:46:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Their primary concern with the PLC is that if its effective for vehicles, it might become overpowered against infantry. Even though its kind of a cope out I think a simple:
Damage (Dropsuit): ###
Damage (Vehicle): ###
should probably be done for every weapon that could theoretically be dual purpose like MDs and FGs. That way it clears up any misconceptions about whether or not it is an AV weapon while still allowing it to be dual purpose within their intentions. But direct hits OHKs infantry now, and it will OHK infantry if the direct damage is buffed. Just skip buffing the splash damage and it will be balanced. CCP. Please fix PLC in 1.8. Its been broken for far too long.
actually, it doesn't OHK most heavies, but i'm fine with that.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:20:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Definitely a no on the clip size. Think about the damage being done after leveling it up with DMs...
313*1.15*1.18 = 425 roughly for splash with only the first shot. All that needs to be done is hop around until the next shot can be fired and then it's over for just about any medium suit. This would be way too OP for the small amount of skill it takes to hit someone with splash damage and jump.
It would also be ridiculous for AV. I'm in favor of increasing weapon swap speed but nothing with damage or clip size. It's usable in the right circumstances, even as a logi. Something should be changed but if we've learned anything it's that multiple buffs/nerds simultaneously is a bad idea That's assuming max proficiency, 2 dmg mods, proto cannon, AND hitting in the center of the explosion. Even with those stats any non explosive gun would kill faster EXACTLY. any other rifle would STILL out-dps it, and beat it at range. Use cover. People are using this weapon wrong if they're engaging rifles at range. And it doesn't need to out DPS something if it can kill them with splash in one shot. Most of my encounters end in one shot. Or I strategically use cover if I insist on hitting from range. Youd be surprised how many people just let it come at their face after you peek and shoot
even with max proficiency, 2 complex damage mods, and a proto plasma cannon, 425 damage is not enough splash to kill most suits in one shot. my dragonfliy scout has more ehp than that.
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