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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:59:00 -
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And not much is known about 1.8. Threads in the feedback and ideas like this one and this one give us glimpses at possibilities for 1.8, but minimal comments from devs. We can only assume they are reading our feedback. The images in those threads haven't been updated with any new data so our ability to continue to provide feedback is hampered.
The respec discussion thread that was created contains only one dev post: the initial one stating
CCP LogiBro wrote:Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. No answer, one way or another, in regards to the respec. Some players feel alienated by CCP, others feel outright hostility for refusing to comment on what is a fairly one-dimensional issue: do the changes in 1.8 warrant a respec? If no answer can be given, can players be told what is going through CCP's collective minds? Let us be a part of the dialogue. As of right now, we are simply talking to ourselves.
PC locking is crippling an entire game mode at the moment. Corporations gain millions of ISK with no risk; essentially a slap in the face of the "High Reward = High Risk / Low Reward = Low Risk." model that Eve Online worked so hard to create. Little discussion of possible solutions is taking place, unless it is being done with CPM, who aren't commenting on the topic. The effects of the runaway ISK mint that is PC 1.0 will cause these elite corps to the be defacto rulers of the soon-to-be(?) eve marketplace. Perhaps CCP is counting on PC 2.0 to correct the issues, but we only know what you tell us and so far that isn't much at all.
HAV's continue to steam roll. Swarm launchers feel like you may as well be firing bottle rockets at a Humvee. Scouts... well not much to be said that hasn't already been said. Perhaps 1.8 will give you folks some love. Who knows. Not me. Devblogs have been promised, but not delivered.
T-minus 8 days until March...
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:12:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I assume they are reading and discussing our ideas the best they can but don't want to start a feeding frenzy on the forum this early.
But is that what we should expect of them? Making changes without input from the community is one of the reasons 1.7's vehicle "balancing" went so poorly.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:18:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:True enough, I'm just stating the fact that the silence isn't unusual. Certainly I'd like more feedback but they are probably busy implementing what they have now. What would you like them to change at this point about 1.8?
If I knew what 1.8 contained I might be able to answer that question. Unfortunately, even though we have threads asking for our feedback, they don't commit to the content anytime in the near future. For all we know this stuff could be scheduled for the first expansion.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:22:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Taking 3 months to address it is the reason it went so poorly.
That is a failure on CCP's part, but not the reason for it happening. The poor vehicle/AV balancing could have been avoid if the changes were posed to the community beforehand. I'm sure the AV crowd would have had a great deal to say about the nerfs in 1.7. As a SL user I know I would have...
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:52:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:"And not much is known about 1.8", nope, much is known. 3 new sidearm weapons, 2 new racial light suits (Caldari and Aarr) and their scout specializations, 3 new heavy suits (Gallente, Minmatar, Caldari) and their commando and sentinel specializations.
On the subject of scouts, they're getting cloaking equipment (to which they'll get a bonus to) and a 2nd equipment slot. I don't know how you can say "Who knows" on the subject when you just linked a big source of info on the subject.
Wait, all of the above has been CONFIRMED for 1.8? Can I get a dev post that states all of the content you listed is going to make it into 1.8? Not being argumentative, actually, this would make me very happy to know.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:We also know there will be a mass driver damage buff, and a laser rifle buff. Also a rail rifle and combat rifle nerf (and maybe other weapons) to increase the time-to-kill.
I had forgotten about the TTK posts. Yes, they seem to be addressing some concerns with TTK.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:02:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:go up and read my earlier post. CCP will always have an imbalance. Its for selling boosters and aurum. If we had the gear we wanted we could just play and have fun. There will always be something for the people that chase k/d and OP gear. They are the ones that spend money. At a point that easy cheese needs to be changed because people are skilled in. New Op gear is either dusted off or introduced. People spend to get into that. Over and over. Having the merc you want and making informed decisions has very little to do with it.
Having a poorly balanced game causes you to lose players. Without players no one will buy your aurum gear and boosters. This is a stupid business decision and no marketing team would try to create a steady revenue stream using the method you described. It might create a burst of revenue for a short period or time, but then it would dwindle and eventually die as the player base left. It would make CCP far more money to create a good game that lasts (see: Eve Online) than a bad game that fails.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:07:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
Thank you for that.
While I am happy to hear that the proposed changes are coming in 1.8 I wish they would update the feedback threads with changes they are proposing. New images aren't even necessary, just make a new post, "Hey guys, we've taken the feedback and here are the news stats!" Followed by more data to mull over.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:23:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Why would we buy boosters if we matured enough to work on other aspects of the game?
To max out more non-essential but still useful skills, skill into other dropsuit roles, become vehicle pilots, and try out other weapons. Plus grinding SP is not the future focus of Dust. The grind may be a large portion of the game now, but it won't be forever. CCP will rely on the metagame and politics inherent in the New Eden universe to keep players in the long term. Not an SP grind.
Darken-Soul wrote:Did you ever notice that GET AUR is at the top of every list in the market?
Yes. Companies are in business to make money. In other news, water is wet. Again, CCP will make more of the aforementioned money if they create a good game, than a bad one.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:16:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Good for you if you still got hope.
Hope is for suckers and presidents, I've got several hundred years of business science. Good products make more money than bad products, unless of course you are making a Broadway play...
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:05:00 -
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T-minus three days until March and we've had one devblog featuring CCP FishWalker. While I appreciate hearing from some of the quieter team members in Shang Hai, this devblog contains precisely nothing of what we need to hear (see OP for specifics).
We've been promised devblogs "in the weeks leading up to 1.8". If we assume the latest 1.8 will be rolled out is 3/31 then we will not be given any information until mid-March? CCP is aware that a dozen titles launch in March for PS3, right? Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Dark Souls 2, BioShock Infinite GÇÿBurial at Sea Episode 2GǦ (DLC but still). Destiny is not being released in March, but if you hope to retain some of the playerbase that might leave for Destiny you are going to want to keep us engaged.
Want to know a terrific way to keep us from being engaged? Tell us nothing and keep feeding us lines about repecs being discussed internally.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.28 18:32:00 -
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Tomorrow is March 1st. Still no devblog explaining 1.8 features or updates made to the feedback threads.
Discussions relating to respecs have been banished to a thread in F&I to be forgotten.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.28 19:46:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I hereby dub that from this point and onward the third month of each year shall be now known as Amarrch.
Aero has spoken. Let it be so.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.04 14:04:00 -
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The first Tuesday of March has arrived; patchless and without devblogs. The 11th, 18th, and 25th could be patch dates, but my money is on the 25th as that would still fit the "devblogs in the weeks prior to 1.8" mantra CCP is following. A community manager let a select few players know in IRC...
Quote:CCP]Saberwing We're working on some but they're not 100% ready yet :) Aero what are the topics? [CCP]Saberwing There'll be 3 for 1.8 we think [CCP]Saberwing Weapons, Dropsuits, and Equipment (Cloaking) Cat_Merc when release plz Cat_Merc Also, when will we hear from Rouge? [CCP]Saberwing This month (release) [CCP]Saberwing Rouge will be April / May I think
Perhaps one of these will be released this week?
...Trying to lift my own spirits? Probably.
In other news, I resubscribed to Eve after several years off. ISIS is neat.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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