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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4847
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:32:00 -
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*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:35:00 -
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yea and the alternative to that is being a tryhard who loves aim bot because it reminds them of COD
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1278
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:47:00 -
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Suck on it Atiim. The problem is that the scrubs aren't speccing into tanks at all and don't need to. We sp tankers are suffering because we didn't really need to spec into them either apparently.
Stop being butthurt over tanks. They're still in the development mix. What will you complain about when you can't complain about tanks? Help us snipers and complain more about helping snipers to be a useful role, nay, an actual developed role. It's Scout Sniper. That's different from the run of the mill college tower sniper (although it's fun to play that role too, amiright?)
MAVs are on the way, oh lawdy what we gonna do then boss? Lol.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
337
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:48:00 -
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I only use a rail tank to destroy blaster tanks.... After all blaster tanks are dead I immediately recall and play the infantry game. I consider myself the anti-FoTM |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4848
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:53:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Suck on it Atiim. The problem is that the scrubs aren't speccing into tanks at all and don't need to. We sp tankers are suffering because we didn't really need to spec into them either apparently.
Stop being butthurt over tanks. They're still in the development mix. What will you complain about when you can't complain about tanks? Help us snipers and complain more about helping snipers to be a useful role, nay, an actual developed role. It's Scout Sniper. That's different from the run of the mill college tower sniper (although it's fun to play that role too, amiright?)
MAVs are on the way, oh lawdy we gonna do then boss? Lol. Like pilots decided to stop complaining about AV?
Thanks for the advice, but nobody likes a hypocrite.
What else would there be to complain about? Every other role in the game requires actual skill.
That role's only fun until the send ADSs after you
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
933
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:57:00 -
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There will always be FoTM. Its how CCP makes money off the run and gun crowd. There will always be morons dumb enough to jump on the band wagon and purchase the boosters and aurum it calls for. You did it to yourselves.
Who wants some?
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
63
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission
Standard dropships?
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Death Shadow117
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:20:00 -
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lets nerf everything lets nerf walking and jumping to where you move at .1 m/s then take guns away and give everyone NK`s the balance work from there |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:31:00 -
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I won't be satisfied until all guns and weapons are removed from the game, at which point battles will be decided by rousing games of "rock-paper-scissors."
Life is killing me.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4856
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:21:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:I won't be satisfied until all guns and weapons are removed from the game, at which point battles will be decided by rousing games of "rock-paper-scissors." lol
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Rinzler XVIII
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Everything Dies wrote:I won't be satisfied until all guns and weapons are removed from the game, at which point battles will be decided by rousing games of "rock-paper-scissors." lol
I chose Paper and my enemy chose scissors .. Scissors are OP nerf them
But I picked scissors and my enemy picked Rock so Scissors is not OP .. nerf Rock !!
But I chose Rock and my enemy chose Paper and beat me .. Nerf Paper !!
CCP:- Due to most people using Paper we have decided to remove it from circulation whilst we rebalance it
2 months Later
CCP:- We are reintroducing Paper ... It is now called Diamond Paper and we are using waves of opportunity .. If you go up against a Diamond Paper user you have the opportunity to run back to your redline and sit in the MCC
New Stats ... It now breaks scissors and still beats rock
Community Diamond Paper is clearly OP what on earth are you playing at CCP do you not test these things before you introduce them ?
Diamond Paper users .. Diamond Paper isn't OP you all just need to get good !!!!
CCP .. dWe know it is unbalanced and are looking into fixing it ...
3 months later .. still no change |
Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1169
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission Except that in this case you actually don't need to spend SP to become a FOTM scrub. I think if you bring back the SP gap we had before 1.7, all of your tank problems would magically go away!
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3465
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:34:00 -
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Just stay away from tanks and ambush, if a tank manages to sneak up on you you just suck.
The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game.
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
972
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:36:00 -
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I flew dropships pre-1.7. I use rail tanks as counter FotM.
And to preemptively deny FotM when scouts get a buff, I've been running BPO scouts for a while now and have been meaning to skill into them eventually, and currently I can't skill into the Cal scout because of obvious reasons.
I skill into what I like, what's effective, and what's needed. Easy mode isn't part of my decision.
ADS Kills: Lost count a while ago...
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
943
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:39:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission Except that in this case you actually don't need to spend SP to become a FOTM scrub. I think if you bring back the SP gap we had before 1.7, all of your tank problems would magically go away!
ok now that I have boss tanks you can get rid of mlt.
Who wants some?
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1169
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:40:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Just stay away from tanks and ambush, if a tank manages to sneak up on you you just suck. I'm surprised at how many ridgeline snipers I snuck up on with my Gunnlogi. I must've been as close as 5m in some cases and spent a fair amount of time trying to angle myself appropriately to get a direct hit on the sniper with my large missile turret.
Seriously people, your situational awareness is just awful. I can commonly hear other tanks before I see them while I'm driving around in my own noisy and clunky Gunnlogi.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1169
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:47:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission Except that in this case you actually don't need to spend SP to become a FOTM scrub. I think if you bring back the SP gap we had before 1.7, all of your tank problems would magically go away! ok now that I have boss tanks you can get rid of mlt. MLT would be for newbies to get a taste of tanking. A newbie shouldn't ever be able to rival an experienced and dedicated tanker. That's the kind of Dust I learned tanking in, back when a Sagaris would only have to look at my Sica and pop me open. But I persevered because I was committed to learn.
Newbies currently have it easy-mode where they are almost as effective as dedicated tankers. The game in its current state is not weeding out the FOTMers; it's actually encouraging FOTM tanking and it is detrimental to the dedicated tanking community that stuck with tanking since closed beta.
Chromosome was near-perfect because there was no point to go into tanking unless you were absolutely committed to learn and go up against dedicated tankers that would rip you a new one.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
359
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:An exception... is usually granted by the community...
If it pleases the most gracious and esteemed Community I would like to present evidence that I am not a scrub, blah blah blah...
Community be damned, play the game how you like.
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2560
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission Putting points back into what you were speced into before a respec does not make you a FoTM Scrub. Anyone who ran tanks regularly in 1.6 should be exempt from this label.
That being said, most of the good tankers I knew in 1.6 are mostly playing as Infantry now, unless the other team calls in 6 tanks and someone lights up the GÇ£batGÇ¥ signal.
Now before 1.8 hits, I just want it on record that I created my HMG Heavy in 1.3 when HMG Heavies were Under Powered. (That was before the hit point buff, and before the HMG fix.)
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
359
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:56:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:...it is detrimental to the dedicated tanking community that stuck with tanking since closed beta.
I guess since I haven't been here since closed beta (didn't have my own PS3. Played on my brother's. I curse the day I didn't make my own PSN account on his PS3.) I can't be a part of the super elite, ultra exclusive Closed Beta Bitter Vet Tankers. Surely a scrub like me could never become a dedicated tanker now that I've missed that Golden Age.
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
944
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:57:00 -
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I just want to point out I already have everything. FoTM doesn't apply to me.
Who wants some?
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
780
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:58:00 -
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F*ck off man. Just because we don't want to put all our sp into ground game doesn't make us scrubs. I would continue but it would look like get gud ******* ***** *****! Anyway milita tanks are scrubs because you don't need sp invested. Where as my python needs 6mil+ just to stay alive |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
865
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:11:00 -
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Ok my turn
*Dons Stetson tinfoil hat cus its cooler*
They made tanks cheap and overpowered on purpose to get more game data for rebalancing
+-+ End Communication +-+
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4862
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:15:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Ok my turn *Dons Stetson tinfoil hat cus its cooler* They made tanks cheap and overpowered on purpose to get more game data for rebalancing +-+ End Communication +-+ *Grabs Lead Coated Football Helmet*
Wouldn't that mean that this heavy challenge is also going to last 3 months?
And could that be why they took so long to ship the Shinobi Rewards?
//End Transmission
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
11249
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:18:00 -
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DUST is where the less skilled FPS players come to live, so I kind of just assume that about 97% of our player base are scrubs in the eyes of true competitive gamers.
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1853
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:*Dons Tinfoil Hat*
The term "FoTM Scrub" refers to people who SP // XP into an item that grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
The term "FoTM" (Flavor of The Month); refers to gear that is spammed on the battlefield because it grants an unbalanced advantage over people who don't use the same gear.
An exception to the "FoTM Scrub" label is usually granted by the community if they invested SP into the gear before it became a "FoTM"
Vehicles are currently a "FoTM" and are being spammed by "FoTM Scrubs" as well. However, because of the SP refund; you would have to invest SP in order to use vehicles once more.
Because of this, anyone who has invested SP into vehicles, and/or their Core Skills is a "FoTM Scrub"
// End Transmission Never knew something that's limited in numbers could be the FoTM. 90% of both teams using the Cal Logi and Duvolle TAR are fine, and shouldn't be nerfed, but tanks actually being viable and profitable now, 7 vehicles per team, well, that must be nerfed. That's not fair.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1853
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:30:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Suck on it Atiim. The problem is that the scrubs aren't speccing into tanks at all and don't need to. We sp tankers are suffering because we didn't really need to spec into them either apparently.
Stop being butthurt over tanks. They're still in the development mix. What will you complain about when you can't complain about tanks? Help us snipers and complain more about helping snipers to be a useful role, nay, an actual developed role. It's Scout Sniper. That's different from the run of the mill college tower sniper (although it's fun to play that role too, amiright?)
MAVs are on the way, oh lawdy what we gonna do then boss? Lol. And don't forget Mechs. Oh, what a glorious thing those will be.
They will be.... my precious.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4864
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:32:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: Never knew something that's limited in numbers could be the FoTM. 90% of both teams using the Cal Logi and Duvolle TAR are fine, and shouldn't be nerfed, but tanks actually being viable and profitable now, 7 vehicles per team, well, that must be nerfed. That's not fair.
Except I viewed those to be OP as well...
Now equate that to:
"HAVs being able to shrug off AV at nearly all times solo is perfectly fine, but AV being able to kill tank solo? Well, that has to be nerfed. It's not fair.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1853
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Suck on it Atiim. The problem is that the scrubs aren't speccing into tanks at all and don't need to. We sp tankers are suffering because we didn't really need to spec into them either apparently.
Stop being butthurt over tanks. They're still in the development mix. What will you complain about when you can't complain about tanks? Help us snipers and complain more about helping snipers to be a useful role, nay, an actual developed role. It's Scout Sniper. That's different from the run of the mill college tower sniper (although it's fun to play that role too, amiright?)
MAVs are on the way, oh lawdy we gonna do then boss? Lol. Like pilots decided to stop complaining about AV? Thanks for the advice, but nobody likes a hypocrite. What else would there be to complain about? Every other role in the game requires actual skill. That role's only fun until the send ADSs after you Have you ever played PC as a tanker? Going further, have you played against Pradox, Outer Heaven, or Ancient Exiles? Do you know how hard it is to try to help inside a compound? 3 forge gunners 2 tanks, and random guys throwing AV grenades.
Are you mostly in ambush since I've seen you twice in domination? Is that why you complain so much?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1853
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:34:00 -
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While I'm at it, can you take on 2 tanks and survive?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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