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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.02.19 03:59:00 -
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If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 80LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days...
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:02:00 -
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Ammatar scum, you deserve no "loyalty" points, traitor.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:02:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 60LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days...
You are right. I think the problem is that they based these values on assuming that items salvaged will go on the market. The problem is they didn't bother to open the market at the same time as the new FW system.
They should definitely retool this to represent the game as it stands today, and not what it will be in the near to distant future.
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:04:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Ammatar scum, you deserve no "loyalty" points, traitor.
well I tried like ALL the FW so i can get some complex armor reps... I stick to minmitar to get my proto scouts coming in.. its a guaranteed win.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:05:00 -
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could squad with decent members and win...
Templar BPO(375Mil)
EVE Pilot
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:05:00 -
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You are correct. Solid efforts on the losing side should be more greatly rewarded.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:06:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:could squad with decent members and win...
even if you win, you still make less than 130k isk... I can make 130k isk by afking in a pub...
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:06:00 -
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Yeah, FW rewards are broken. Even at level 10 standing, you do better in a public contract Skirmish AFK farming: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131073
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:07:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:could squad with decent members and win...
Or get spammed with tanks like earlier today. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:07:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:You are correct. Solid efforts on the losing side should be more greatly rewarded.
if i lose in a pub i get 150-200k isk but if i lose in fw i get like 5k isk. If i win in pub i get 200k but if i win in fw i get <130k.
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Yokal Bob
G.R.A.V.E
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:09:00 -
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Its not the LP system that is messed up but factional as a whole. Most of the people have flocked to FotM Gal logi so do Galente or want an easy win game so chose Winmatar. I find it wierd that people use rail rifles pretty much all the time but rarely go into Cal FW
CPM1 candidate
I want my logi tank back
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
277
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:22:00 -
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I play Minmatar for RP purposes cause I love the race/lore/gear. Feel sorry for the Amarr guys but that's what happens when you choose an inferior and unpopular race. People say it's cause it's an easy win which would ring true if LP allowed them to get what they wanted but seeing as it doesn't I'm inclined to believe that people just prefer Matari tech. That an most don't agree with Amarrian phallus worship.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7306
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:28:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 80LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days...
You are now constantly complaining about things we other forumers have constantly be in contact with CPM and CCP about......calm down and move on.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7306
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:29:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I play Minmatar for RP purposes cause I love the race/lore/gear. Feel sorry for the Amarr guys but that's what happens when you choose an inferior and unpopular race. People say it's cause it's an easy win which would ring true if LP allowed them to get what they wanted but seeing as it doesn't I'm inclined to believe that people just prefer Matari tech. That an most don't agree with Amarrian phallus worship.
You probably don't know a whole lot about the Amarr do you...... like canonically even during the Great Rebellion the Amarr never commited more than 25% of their military might against the Minmatar....nor against the Elder Fleet when it invaded the Throne worlds.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Death Shadow117
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:33:00 -
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was in an ammar fight we win but if i wasnt there the rtard blubs would have lost bc the blubs dont do snything i was fighting the hardest i was at the top with over 2000 wp and #2 had like 500 wp so there if your blubs werent complete retards and actuslly tfy then you might win key to winnibng: PLACE UPLUNKS R`TARDS |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:48:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I play Minmatar for RP purposes cause I love the race/lore/gear. Feel sorry for the Amarr guys but that's what happens when you choose an inferior and unpopular race. People say it's cause it's an easy win which would ring true if LP allowed them to get what they wanted but seeing as it doesn't I'm inclined to believe that people just prefer Matari tech. That an most don't agree with Amarrian phallus worship. You probably don't know a whole lot about the Amarr do you...... like canonically even during the Great Rebellion the Amarr never commited more than 25% of their military might against the Minmatar....nor against the Elder Fleet when it invaded the Throne worlds.
I don't see how that's relevant, seems like you're just trying to wag the Amarr e-peen.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:34:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I play Minmatar for RP purposes cause I love the race/lore/gear. Feel sorry for the Amarr guys but that's what happens when you choose an inferior and unpopular race. People say it's cause it's an easy win which would ring true if LP allowed them to get what they wanted but seeing as it doesn't I'm inclined to believe that people just prefer Matari tech. That an most don't agree with Amarrian phallus worship. You probably don't know a whole lot about the Amarr do you...... like canonically even during the Great Rebellion the Amarr never commited more than 25% of their military might against the Minmatar....nor against the Elder Fleet when it invaded the Throne worlds. I don't see how that's relevant, seems like you're just trying to wag the Amarr e-peen.
When your gear sucks and you are getting dominated continuously in FW...lore is all that's left. Let's have some sympathy for these poor guys.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:55:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I play Minmatar for RP purposes cause I love the race/lore/gear. Feel sorry for the Amarr guys but that's what happens when you choose an inferior and unpopular race. People say it's cause it's an easy win which would ring true if LP allowed them to get what they wanted but seeing as it doesn't I'm inclined to believe that people just prefer Matari tech. That an most don't agree with Amarrian phallus worship. You probably don't know a whole lot about the Amarr do you...... like canonically even during the Great Rebellion the Amarr never commited more than 25% of their military might against the Minmatar....nor against the Elder Fleet when it invaded the Throne worlds. I don't see how that's relevant, seems like you're just trying to wag the Amarr e-peen. When your gear sucks and you are getting dominated continuously in FW...lore is all that's left. Let's have some sympathy for these poor guys.
Actually I find nothing wrong with their gear and aesthetics (in fact I like using them a lot), but the whole theocracy + slavery thing is a dealbreaker.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:14:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Its not the LP system that is messed up but factional as a whole. Most of the people have flocked to FotM Gal logi so do Galente or want an easy win game so chose Winmatar. I find it wierd that people use rail rifles pretty much all the time but rarely go into Cal FW
It's fun to sync Caldari with our corp members and give the gal players a bit of a surprise. Plus you sometimes get an even battle which is fun.
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7309
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:17:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I play Minmatar for RP purposes cause I love the race/lore/gear. Feel sorry for the Amarr guys but that's what happens when you choose an inferior and unpopular race. People say it's cause it's an easy win which would ring true if LP allowed them to get what they wanted but seeing as it doesn't I'm inclined to believe that people just prefer Matari tech. That an most don't agree with Amarrian phallus worship. You probably don't know a whole lot about the Amarr do you...... like canonically even during the Great Rebellion the Amarr never commited more than 25% of their military might against the Minmatar....nor against the Elder Fleet when it invaded the Throne worlds. I don't see how that's relevant, seems like you're just trying to wag the Amarr e-peen. When your gear sucks and you are getting dominated continuously in FW...lore is all that's left. Let's have some sympathy for these poor guys.
Dust FW means little.... though I don't about it.
EVE FW is all the matters. As I know, its going to be a good fight over the next few weeks to see who is going to control the warzone.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:18:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 60LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days... You are right. I think the problem is that they based these values on assuming that items salvaged will go on the market. The problem is they didn't bother to open the market at the same time as the new FW system. They should definitely retool this to represent the game as it stands today, and not what it will be in the near to distant future.
They still need toincrease the lp payouts after the market opens
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
Caldari Master Race
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
30
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Posted - 2014.02.19 07:16:00 -
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I play FW for Gallente and Minimatar ... 80% end on the Gallente one and against the Team players ... It's would just be quicker and less painful to take my box of chocolates and light them up.
I wish that you got some standing if you put up a good fight (ie hacking and kills not base nanohives farming or mutual murder and injector farming). |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.19 08:02:00 -
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Don't forget the gear is all Aurum variants, so they require less SP, so worth far more..... but there really does need to be an open market.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.02.19 08:05:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Don't forget the gear is all Aurum variants, so they require less SP, so worth far more..... but there really does need to be an open market.
You need to get at least 1000 lp at level 10, or higher like really
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
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Caldari Master Race
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
317
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Posted - 2014.02.19 08:24:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Don't forget the gear is all Aurum variants, so they require less SP, so worth far more..... but there really does need to be an open market. You need to get at least 1000 lp at level 10, or higher like really
For what?
FW battles are calm and about tactic.
Not much kills, just try to control more. Not much kills means not much death so you dont need so much isk for your effort.
LP store offers you AUR level items (often better then AUR - look at proto AR or similiar weapon) that you can put back on market (soon :) for higer price in ISK then you think.
One more thing. If there is shortage of factional LP ... you price go even higher. So playing ammar or caldari FW is stil profitable. |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.02.19 08:29:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:NK Scout wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Don't forget the gear is all Aurum variants, so they require less SP, so worth far more..... but there really does need to be an open market. You need to get at least 1000 lp at level 10, or higher like really For what? FW battles are calm and about tactic. Not much kills, just try to control more. Not much kills means not much death so you dont need so much isk for your effort. LP store offers you AUR level items (often better then AUR - look at proto AR or similiar weapon) that you can put back on market (soon :) for higer price in ISK then you think. One more thing. If there is shortage of factional LP ... you price go even higher. So playing ammar or caldari FW is stil profitable.
Np, fw is skirmish.......exept with 10x shittier payout....
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Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
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Caldari Master Race
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Horizen Kenpachi
Kenpachi's Castle
193
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:48:00 -
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Its not broken it never worked in the first place pc and fw need reworking
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2047
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Posted - 2014.02.19 12:49:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:I play FW for Gallente and Minimatar ... 80% end on the Gallente one and against the Team players ... It's would just be quicker and less painful to take my box of chocolates and light them up.
I wish that you got some standing if you put up a good fight (ie hacking and kills not base nanohives farming or mutual murder and injector farming).
Really? Complaining about the rare loss for gallente/minmatar?
You have no idea what frustration is, my friend. I made an alt to awox minmatar a month ago when I got bored one weekend. By running around gettting myself TKd and destroying my own teams equipment for a day and a half I somehow got almost as high a standings as my Amarr loyalist main here!
When my squads managed to win 4 battles for Amarr and 2 for Caldari in a span of 3 hours last weekend... it was like I had beaten Dust!
I'll tell you one thing, if someone playing from that side thinks the payouts should change to avoid frustration on the losing side, either they need to find a better squad or there is no doubt there is a problem.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Ensar Cael
Black Spire Force Recon
85
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:14:00 -
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I tend to run Caldari/ Amarr for the challenge. Stupid thing is that we usually win 8/10 of the fights! Seems to me that the OP just needs to get into a decent squad maybe? |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:20:00 -
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Loyalty Gear operate with lower skill requirements, cost less, and the specialist stuff is very helpful.
If you want more points, try to win.
If you want to win, squad up. |
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:23:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Loyalty Gear operate with lower skill requirements, cost less, and the specialist stuff is very helpful.
If you want more points, try to win.
If you want to win, squad up.
I have 17.6 mil sp, loyalty gear doesn't really get me sh*t. But even winning only gets you about two proto suits. losing gets you nothing.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
281
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:08:00 -
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FW gear allows you to spec into proto suits at advanced level. I don't know if saving 2,000,000 SP is reason enough for others to farm LP but it is for me. with 1 months SP I could get Min commando, sentinel, assault and logi to lvl 3 and run proto suits for all if I so wish...and I do...and I will.  When you eliminate the lower skill requirements, yeah, LP sucks...but if you want to spec into lots of **** while still focussing most your SP to your primary role, this stuff is great.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
902
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Posted - 2014.02.19 16:57:00 -
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I play Min FW to get the Republic HMGs. A win (AKA every match) rewards 15 AUR HMGs. That's actually quite nice.
Though I do agree FW sucks- I roll Amarr logi on my alt and I've all but given up on Amarr FW. Last I checked both the AmarrFW and PIE Ground Control channels were dead. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:31:00 -
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Screw FW. The only decent things in the LP store are the specialist weapons which have reduced PG/CPU. Everything else is garbage and not worth getting. In my opinion all faction modules/weapons should have better fitting costs then their ISK variants. Sure its nice to have proto stuff at lvl3 but for vets this is not appealing cause i got over 31 mil SP.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2050
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:35:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:I play Min FW to get the Republic HMGs. A win (AKA every match) rewards 15 AUR HMGs. That's actually quite nice.
Though I do agree FW sucks- I roll Amarr logi on my alt and I've all but given up on Amarr FW. Last I checked both the AmarrFW and PIE Ground Control channels were dead.
The PIE channel is alive and well, thank you.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:42:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 80LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days...
FW is not supposed to be balanced. Stop whining
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
884
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:48:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 80LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days... You are now constantly complaining about things we other forumers have constantly be in contact with CPM and CCP about......calm down and move on.
How is that constant contact working? It seems like things just keep getting worse.
Who wants some?
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:10:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 80LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days...
Its not broken.Yer head is .Your standings in a faction do not increase unless you win matches/battles.Your LP payout increases based on the level you are at. Your standings to that faction.Loosing match after match and afking in faction warfare is quite frankly ******** and the farmers should go play skirmish where winning really doesn't matter . In FW it does matter.I think its hilarious all the dumb people that just come in to faction warfare and throw down links like its another Skirm match are hilarious they get absolutley nothing as you've already told us.SO maybe they should actually try to win?Instead of farming ...maybe.
You have to understand I dont really mean any disrespect to you .Im just sick of the Sorry ass blue dots that dont do anything to win in FW.Leaving guys like me and my squad to sink millions into trying to win most of the time making it a 6 vs 16 match.Some may laugh at this but wait . Im at level 9 Standings and if I loose I make way more than they do .If I win the match my payout is based on my Loyalty to my faction . I have over 100 hundred proto dropsuits and 40k plus Amarr LP.Now is that worth what Ive spent in Amarr fw.The answer to that is no.
The current system is fine.Its to discourage by loss of ISK the noobs and the farmers.Not how good a person can farm uplinks. Not Redline rail tanking.Alot of people think that if they play FW they wont get OB'd repeatedly Because there's no AI OB support.But they are wrong.Fw warfare isnt for everyone and wasnt made for anyone else but the truly dedicated.
The system isnt broken ....it works fine....if you win.
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:12:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:If i lose a Amarr FW I make like 65 wp (cuz we never win so i never level up!!!) A complex armor rep costs 80LP... a complex armor rep costs 5k isk so that means we are making less than 5k isk a battle is we lose? I quit playing FW after like 2 days... Its not broken.Yer head is .Your standings in a faction do not increase unless you win matches/battles.Your LP payout increases based on the level you are at. Your standings to that faction.Loosing match after match and afking in faction warfare is quite frankly ******** and the farmers should go play skirmish where winning really doesn't matter . In FW it does matter.I think its hilarious all the dumb people that just come in to faction warfare and throw down links like its another Skirm match are hilarious they get absolutley nothing as you've already told us.SO maybe they should actually try to win?Instead of farming ...maybe. You have to understand I dont really mean any disrespect to you .Im just sick of the Sorry ass blue dots that dont do anything to win in FW.Leaving guys like me and my squad to sink millions into trying to win most of the time making it a 6 vs 16 match.Some may laugh at this but wait . Im at level 9 Standings and if I loose I make way more than they do .If I win the match my payout is based on my Loyalty to my faction . I have over 100 hundred proto dropsuits and 40k plus Amarr LP.Now is that worth what Ive spent in Amarr fw.The answer to that is no. The current system is fine.Its to discourage by loss of ISK the noobs and the farmers.Not how good a person can farm uplinks. Not Redline rail tanking.Alot of people think that if they play FW they wont get OB'd repeatedly Because there's no AI OB support.But they are wrong.Fw warfare isnt for everyone and wasnt made for anyone else but the truly dedicated. The system isnt broken ....it works fine....if you win.
somebody give this man a cookie!! his efforts must be rewarded.
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