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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:46:00 -
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In my somewhat pathetic skull the total range on a PRO Gallente scout with 1 complex range enhancer comes to 39.2m. (50% from dropsuit skill, 50% range enhancement skill, 45% from complex module, 16m dropsuit base scan)
is this correct?
Or is there some schneider maths thrown in?
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1702
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:56:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:In my somewhat pathetic skull the total range on a PRO Gallente scout with 1 complex range enhancer comes to 39.2m. (50% from dropsuit skill, 50% range enhancement skill, 45% from complex module, 16m dropsuit base scan)
is this correct?
Or is there some schneider maths thrown in? Assuming multiplied percentages (the correct mathematical way to do percentages) these numbers you've posted give you 52.2m. Having said that, it's been a while since I looked at the skills, and it's likely that some of these might be additive. Edit: Actually, now that I read it, your 45% for complex module is also off, as there's diminishing returns here. I assume you mean to say that you have three +15% modules on? That isn't a 45% bonus.
No 1 complex range amplifier gives a scan radius boost of 45%.
The way I thought it worked is each of the different additions were just taken from the base suit amount, then added on.So
16m Base
Suit bonus: +50% of 16 (16+8) =24m
Range amplification skills: +50% of 16 again so 24+8=32
Then the complex module: +45% of 16, 32+7.2=39.2
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1702
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:02:00 -
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AP Grasshopper wrote:I don't think passive scan even works anymore, certainty nothing like an active scanner. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
It only keeps them lit while they are within the radius, and certain objects will block their signal(why? ccp).
But if I run an active scanner the potential victim gets a heads up to me being there 'you have been scanned' or 'scan attempt prevented'. Element of surprise is gone right there, where as tracking targets visually until you need to be hidden, then relying on following their movements on passive scans leaves me completely hidden.
Currently running:
Scout GK.0:
High: Complex precision enhancer
Low:
- Complex profile dampener
- Complex kitkat
- complex kitkat
- complex range amplifier
With shotty, knives and RE's
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1702
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:13:00 -
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AP Grasshopper wrote:Would someone with a gallente proto suit and 4 complex range amplifiers be willing to call in a tank and test it out?
I can do so in a while, sons watching paw patrol on my tv atm..
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1702
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:20:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AP Grasshopper wrote:I don't think passive scan even works anymore, certainty nothing like an active scanner. Please correct me if i'm wrong. It only keeps them lit while they are within the radius, and certain objects will block their signal(why? ccp). But if I run an active scanner the potential victim gets a heads up to me being there 'you have been scanned' or 'scan attempt prevented'. Element of surprise is gone right there, where as tracking targets visually until you need to be hidden, then relying on following their movements on passive scans leaves me completely hidden. Currently running: Scout GK.0: High: Complex precision enhancer Low:
- Complex profile dampener
- Complex kitkat
- complex kitkat
- complex range enhancer
With shotty, knives and RE's Nice Assuming that you are keeping a Complex Damp to avoid other peoples Passive? Not sure how many of us in the field run precision enhancers to the level that a Complex Damp is required. Mind you come 1.8 Pretty sure this will be necessary with that Cal scout  Don't know If dropping Damp down would be worth it for you, it would give you more fitting space and lighten the price tag a bit. Not sure if you really need to financially or Fitting wise. I would recommend testing your range by backing towards an enemy help installation until you see it. Spin around and check range with a weapon. Easiest way to be sure of the totals.
I run the complex dampner cuz I dont want to be scanned...ever. Scanners are like ******, usually you die.
I have an outfield sniper scout, using thales and wolfmans ScP, on that suit I have 2 complex dampners and 2 enhanced range amps. Only been found once with him and the guy walked around the corner to meet the coroner hahah them wolfmans are great, gets people riled when they realize you have 2 officer weapons equiped
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1703
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:29:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:I can say from sad experience that it no worky while using an installation so I doubt it does in a vehicle.
Onto the complex damp. Why complex? What can scan you with complex that you couldn't avoid with enhanced? I only have gallante 3 and damp 3 and 1 enhanced gets me under all but focused proto. And I don't think you can get under that (14.0 as 14.1 would round to 15 and get aught ) without two mods
I just do, probably cuz complex always sounds better when making a fitting.
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1703
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:38:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:With a Basic Damp and your passive skills (Scout V Damp V) you should be under pro to scanners (except the 15db) your total with the complex does not take you to under the 15db and takes you well beyond the average Proto scanner. You could tone it down and gain some fitting space, if you need some. Totally with you on the being Scanned 
kinda ****** there are no LP or AUR versions of these modules..
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1704
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:46:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:
I run the complex dampner cuz I dont want to be scanned...ever. Scanners are like ******, usually you die.
I have an outfield sniper scout, using thales and wolfmans ScP, on that suit I have 2 complex dampners and 2 enhanced range amps. Only been found once with him and the guy walked around the corner to meet the coroner hahah them wolfmans are great, gets people riled when they realize you have 2 officer weapons equiped
With a Basic Damp and your passive skills (Scout V Damp V) you should be under pro to scanners (except the 15db) your total with the complex does not take you to under the 15db and takes you well beyond the average Proto scanner. You could tone it down and gain some fitting space, if you need some. Totally with you on the being Scanned ^ I believe 5 scout/3 dampening + basic gets you 26/27db. Until 1.8, that is all that you need to worry about on the dampening front - every bit of CPU is important, as the constant 'invalid fitting' notice keeps reminding me...
I use adv weapons and equipment keeps the fittings way down, not abig enough gain from needing X shotguns or knives
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Sgt Buttscratch
Edimmu Warfighters
1705
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:52:00 -
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Flyingconejo wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:You are wrong. Passive scanning works. But lets not talk about it. It sucks and isn't useful at all. It's the worst when trying to hack or use RE. Don't use it, keep talking about how OP active scanners are everyone. Nothing to see here. Listen to this guy. Don't waste sp in passive scanning. Be smart and save your sp to level up another rifle to proto, or maybe another assault suit. Passive scanning is totally not worth it. 
I have saved up SP ready for 1.8, no need to get any more weapons, and I'll carry on passive scanning, I like it.
If we got a respec/refund I would actually skill out of 4 weapons.
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