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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:32:00 -
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I have a question, but I have some statements to make first. A few questions actually.
Ok, so, this is my main character. Dedicated scout. There are upgrades that are ESSENTIAL to run a scout at least halfway properly. Here is what I have so far
Biotics lvl 5 lvl 3 regs lvl 1 HTH and kins basic armor & shield PG/CPU lvl 1 PD lvl 3 Precision lvl 3 range lvl 1
I use a basic Gallente scout suit. Now, heres my problem. I want to also run a speed tanked Minja, but with just the basic alone, the PG/CPU is insane. And, ok, got mixed up. I want to get kins at least to lvl 3, plus proto knives, and HTH lvl 3, plus lvl 1 proficiency for the knives BEFORE I even skill into Minja. So, my problem is, if I max my pg/cpu before the kins, will be able to fit two enhanced kins on my suit? Or should I just use my alt specifically for my Minja?
Or just let my SP build up again so I can skill into everything?
I know its a lot but I would appreciate some feedback from fellow scouts on this.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2573
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:39:00 -
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Max out the Biotics branch if you're really wanting to Scout. But, in order to run anything worthy, you'll have to max out Electronics and Engineering. This, assuming you already maxed out Dampening and Range.
I GÖú Kittens.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
698
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:56:00 -
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Yeah, going to max the electronics & engineering first. Thanks Ryno. I want to max out biotics skill tree but wasn't sure about the pg/cpu requirements.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
903
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:59:00 -
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Two or more speed mods is essential and necessary, it'll help you in combat.
That 162 armor needs a rep, enhanced will do.
Remotes could potentially save you're life.
Assassination is my thing.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
702
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:02:00 -
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I run remotes by default. I'm iffy about armor & shield. I'll go enhanced. Thanks Smooth.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
903
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:06:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I run remotes by default. I'm iffy about armor & shield. I'll go enhanced. Thanks Smooth. You're welcome, you'll thank me when you get a kill with that suit.
Assassination is my thing.
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
111
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:07:00 -
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Why devote so much time to maxxing out elec and eng?
Also what is your goal? - To be a minja or just to run Minnie Lv1 and have your main suit be Gallente?
If you want to be a minja just do that - go to at least Lv3 which gives you an additional 10% NK damage and uses the advanced suit which has more PG unless that is out of the question.
I would leave maxxing CPU/PG to last. Get them to 2-3 and then see if you need more. Also remember that with 1.8 comes more resources for the scout suits.
On dampening. No need to go past level 3 if you are planning to skill all the way to Scout Lv5. Remember that 1.8 brings the bonus from the start and scanners are being nerfed so dampening for a scout only needs to be level 3 unless you just want to be safe and dodge everything by using multiple complex. Even then the unique options can see you. - There will also be cloak to help with dampening.
On Range - I would take that to level 3 and when possible max it out.
just my 2c
Ask yourself what is your long term goal and plot a path to get you there whilst enhancing your combat effectiveness along the way.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
702
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:13:00 -
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I have no problem having two ninja suits on this character. My long term goal is to see people coming long before they see me [range & precision] and have the stamina and speed [regs & kins] to wipe them out. I want to be a stealth shotgunner type role mostly. Unseen and unscannable.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
702
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:14:00 -
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I need some help with shotgunning too. Because all of this means nothing if I cant hit you.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
702
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:37:00 -
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Would like more feedback.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2575
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:44:00 -
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If you wanna run NKs, I'd advise against running with a Shotgun on the same fitting. Use a M209 (Level 4) or at least the M-512A (Level 3) SMG and shove as many Sidearm Damage Mods as you can fit on it. You don't want to be completely outranged at 10m. Run dual SMGs and you basically have a mini-Heavy.
I GÖú Kittens.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
705
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:51:00 -
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I don't run knives with shotty. If I run knives [I REALLY should run them more] I use the CR or M-512A smg. I LOVE DUAL SMG! I can take down anything with two smgs. Lightning bruiser b!tch!
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
905
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:03:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I need some help with shotgunning too. Because all of this means nothing if I cant hit you. I prefer that proficiency, got it LVL 4 and i'm getting 39/8 with it, some say it's not a big difference but i just remind them how the kalakiota rail rifle is only 10% more damage than the STD rail rifle.
Assassination is my thing.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
707
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:39:00 -
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I run militia shotty. I don't have light weapon lvl 4 yet.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
907
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:46:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I run militia shotty. I don't have light weapon lvl 4 yet. Less spread... better hit detection... hmm... you might be in an advantage by not skilling into shotguns, i do admit that choke spread bonus helps killing heavies.
Assassination is my thing.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
707
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:50:00 -
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I drop heavies a lot. I did notice the difference between militia and other shottys. On my alt I skilled to proto sg and testing all of them the militia and CreoDron are the best.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
652
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:02:00 -
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At the very least, you need drop suit engineering up to level 5. Im still going to have to run a basic cloak and a basic SMG and a specialist ADV shotgun with all of the fitting skills maxed because the PG is so tight on a minmitar frame. If you really want to speed tank, go gallente. Ill give you a really good fitting thats better than any minmitar fitting if you do
1x proto extender 1x proto dmage mod 3x proto kincats 1x ADV plate 1x STD cloak 1xProximity active scanner 1xK5 specialist shotgun 1x SMG
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3695
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:14:00 -
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Contrary to what some say here I completely disagree with speed tanking a gallente. You're better off speed tanking a shield based suit. Why? Because regen.
A speed tanked gallente will have about the same HP as a minmatar but about zero regen for it's main tank (armor) while the minnie can comfortably take 200+ points of damage, and if you get away you'll be back to full health in about 10 seconds.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
656
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:15:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Contrary to what some say here I completely disagree with speed tanking a gallente. You're better off speed tanking a shield based suit. Why? Because regen.
A speed tanked gallente will have about the same HP as a minmatar but about zero regen for it's main tank (armor) while the minnie can comfortably take 200+ points of damage, and if you get away you'll be back to full health in about 10 seconds.
Except that the Gallente is a better speed tanker and can do more damage with more HP, but thats mainly due to the shield/armor disparity
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3695
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:16:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Contrary to what some say here I completely disagree with speed tanking a gallente. You're better off speed tanking a shield based suit. Why? Because regen.
A speed tanked gallente will have about the same HP as a minmatar but about zero regen for it's main tank (armor) while the minnie can comfortably take 200+ points of damage, and if you get away you'll be back to full health in about 10 seconds. Except that the Gallente is a better speed tanker and can do more damage with more HP, but thats mainly due to the shield/armor disparity
Next build this won't hold true.
Don't speed tank your gallente. Run it how it's supposed to be run.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
656
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:17:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Contrary to what some say here I completely disagree with speed tanking a gallente. You're better off speed tanking a shield based suit. Why? Because regen.
A speed tanked gallente will have about the same HP as a minmatar but about zero regen for it's main tank (armor) while the minnie can comfortably take 200+ points of damage, and if you get away you'll be back to full health in about 10 seconds. Except that the Gallente is a better speed tanker and can do more damage with more HP, but thats mainly due to the shield/armor disparity Next build this won't hold true. Don't speed tank your gallente. Run it how it's supposed to be run. It's a brawler, not a hit and run suit.
Is it confirmed that minmitar scouts are getting a speed buff ?
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
707
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:17:00 -
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Yeah... lots to process and thank you all for your input.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3695
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:17:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Contrary to what some say here I completely disagree with speed tanking a gallente. You're better off speed tanking a shield based suit. Why? Because regen.
A speed tanked gallente will have about the same HP as a minmatar but about zero regen for it's main tank (armor) while the minnie can comfortably take 200+ points of damage, and if you get away you'll be back to full health in about 10 seconds. Except that the Gallente is a better speed tanker and can do more damage with more HP, but thats mainly due to the shield/armor disparity Next build this won't hold true. Don't speed tank your gallente. Run it how it's supposed to be run. It's a brawler, not a hit and run suit. Is it confirmed that minmitar scouts are getting a speed buff ?
Next build minmatar scouts will run faster than a gallente and not have to sacrifice it's entire main tank.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
656
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:18:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Contrary to what some say here I completely disagree with speed tanking a gallente. You're better off speed tanking a shield based suit. Why? Because regen.
A speed tanked gallente will have about the same HP as a minmatar but about zero regen for it's main tank (armor) while the minnie can comfortably take 200+ points of damage, and if you get away you'll be back to full health in about 10 seconds. Except that the Gallente is a better speed tanker and can do more damage with more HP, but thats mainly due to the shield/armor disparity Next build this won't hold true. Don't speed tank your gallente. Run it how it's supposed to be run. It's a brawler, not a hit and run suit. Is it confirmed that minmitar scouts are getting a speed buff ? Next build minmatar scouts will run faster than a gallente and not have to sacrifice it's entire main tank.
Will 2x kin cats on a minja be > 3x on a gallente?
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
708
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:19:00 -
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Speed buff?!!! Bring on next build!
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1695
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:19:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I have a question, but I have some statements to make first. A few questions actually.
Ok, so, this is my main character. Dedicated scout. There are upgrades that are ESSENTIAL to run a scout at least halfway properly. Here is what I have so far
Biotics lvl 5 lvl 3 regs lvl 1 HTH and kins basic armor & shield PG/CPU lvl 1 PD lvl 3 Precision lvl 3 range lvl 1
I use a basic Gallente scout suit. Now, heres my problem. I want to also run a speed tanked Minja, but with just the basic alone, the PG/CPU is insane. And, ok, got mixed up. I want to get kins at least to lvl 3, plus proto knives, and HTH lvl 3, plus lvl 1 proficiency for the knives BEFORE I even skill into Minja. So, my problem is, if I max my pg/cpu before the kins, will be able to fit two enhanced kins on my suit? Or should I just use my alt specifically for my Minja?
Or just let my SP build up again so I can skill into everything?
I know its a lot but I would appreciate some feedback from fellow scouts on this. Nail on head.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3700
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:21:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
Will 2x kin cats on a minja be > 3x on a gallente?
3 lows on minmatar next build Are you going to argue with me forever on this? I'm not exactly a newbie here. No matter what the minmatar will be faster than a gallente if it wants to be and it will be better at it.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
708
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:21:00 -
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All right! I'll just let it build. I have a LOT more patience then I used to.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
708
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:23:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
Will 2x kin cats on a minja be > 3x on a gallente?
3 lows on minmatar next build Are you going to argue with me forever on this? I'm not exactly a newbie here.
Got that right. Moody, how long have you been playing? I've been for a year.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3700
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:25:00 -
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I'm going on one year.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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