DUST Search - Sooo many crutches!

Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:

Syeven Reed wrote:

So im playing a game, lots of tanks and RR wielding heavy's. About 5 tanks in game and I manage to find the one thats by its lonesome at the back of the map.

And I think, "this is my chance!"

I get out my remotes, run up to the side of the tank. But oh no's he must have seen me coming! Starts shooting at me and takes out my shields (keep in mind I'm a Minmatar piece of paper). But I'm faster that him, he's going backwards up a hill and i have my core sprint up to 5!

This is where the interesting thing happens.

Knowing he cant escape me and my remotes, a heavy jumps out and starts shooting me with his PROTO RAIL. I have 200ish armour and i still manage to take him out down to 20% of his. Fearing id kill him, he quickly jumps back into his tank and finishes me off.

And I'm looking at the kill feed thinking WTH!? How many crutches does one person need? I get past his blaster maddy, I take out a superior tanked suit with a superior weapon and he just jumps, no "ports" back into his tank to finish the job!

Most annoying thing is he probably thinks he's amazing..

Nope, but he's smart. You could have done the same thing but didn't. Blame CCP. Some ppl are going to use the best combo they can to win. This is why this game is silly at best.

Why is it always a crutch when the other guy beats you with something? Isn't that called a stick?

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Buster Friently Rosen Association 1802	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:28:00 - [31] - Quote You are right, sun assist is a childish crutch!
Justice Prevails 186	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:01:00 - [32] - Quote So, what isn't considered a crutch? You could even call squadding up a crutch since a lot of guys cant win one on ones. Play the GAME as you want and don't worry what the next guy uses to have FUN. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 855	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:03:00 - [33] - Quote Crutches? now i'm thinking WTF. *Assassination is my thing.*
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 52	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:08:00 - [34] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: If they're spamming tanks and the map has a hill and they DON'T have rail tanks, pull out a rail tank. And then collect the tears of mlt tanks. Don't shoot at dropships though, unless they are assaults Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4692	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:19:00 - [35] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ah, HAV pilots. Not only do they have to be in a giant crutch, they have to abuse terrible mechanics and use infantry crutches as well. I used to be an HAV driver. a long time ago. Even then, I knew most tankers were cancer but that can be said about 80% of the forum community. Tankers are just the most ridiculous worse than the Constant Orbital Striker defenders = arguably worse than Hitlor.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2540	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:31:00 - [36] - Quote Despite all the people saying "durr hurr everything is crutch, you is scrub" it is pretty god damn sad that other guy needed all that stuff in his favor to beat a scout suit and apparently still almost died I mean its a scout suit for gods sake, a stiff breeze is enough to kill them I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2540	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:33:00 - [37] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ah, HAV pilots. Not only do they have to be in a giant crutch, they have to abuse terrible mechanics and use infantry crutches as well. I used to be an HAV driver. a long time ago. Even then, I knew most tankers were cancer but that can be said about 80% of the forum community. Tankers are just the most ridiculous worse than the Constant Orbital Striker defenders = arguably worse than Hitlor. Ah yes, Hitlor, the evil slug overlord of the insectoid hive planet Grrmanii Invoking Godwins law is always silly but not as silly as turning WW2 into a space themed musical I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Meknow Intaki 67	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:35:00 - [38] - Quote Get good at bomb buggys =ƒÆú=ƒÜù and next time take homme down. Like a man!!!=ƒÆ¬
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4487	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:04:00 - [39] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Despite all the people saying "durr hurr everything is crutch, you is scrub" it is pretty god damn sad that other guy needed all that stuff in his favor to beat a scout suit and apparently still almost died I mean its a scout suit for gods sake, a stiff breeze is enough to kill them OP made it sound like a Scout, but he's posted since that it was an Assault suit. Even so, a competent player wouldn't have come so close to death with heavy/RR/HAV backing him up.
Asher Night D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 455	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:08:00 - [40] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: So im playing a game, lots of tanks and RR wielding heavy's. About 5 tanks in game and I manage to find the one thats by its lonesome at the back of the map. And I think, "this is my chance!" I get out my remotes, run up to the side of the tank. But oh no's he must have seen me coming! Starts shooting at me and takes out my shields (keep in mind I'm a Minmatar piece of paper). But I'm faster that him, he's going backwards up a hill and i have my core sprint up to 5! This is where the interesting thing happens. Knowing he cant escape me and my remotes, a heavy jumps out and starts shooting me with his PROTO RAIL. I have 200ish armour and i still manage to take him out down to 20% of his. Fearing id kill him, he quickly jumps back into his tank and finishes me off. And I'm looking at the kill feed thinking WTH!? How many crutches does one person need? I get past his blaster maddy, I take out a superior tanked suit with a superior weapon and he just jumps, no "ports" back into his tank to finish the job! Most annoying thing is he probably thinks he's amazing.. Nope, but he's smart. You could have done the same thing but didn't. Blame CCP. Some ppl are going to use the best combo they can to win. This is why this game is silly at best. Why is it always a crutch when the other guy beats you with something? Isn't that called a stick? That's not necessarily smart. The smart thing to do would be play the game in a fair way that is challenging for all players. Not just utilize sure-fire, stonewall tactics that ruin game for everyone and ultimately drive away the player base you need in order to continue playing. Imagine you always won at poker. If everyone knew about you, no on would play with you. The only difference is that would be impressive, where as this is just people exploiting BS tactics made by a game company that has no clue wtf they are doing with this FPS. I blame CCP and the players that continue to use these tactics.

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 503	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:41:00 - [41] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: So im playing a game, lots of tanks and RR wielding heavy's. About 5 tanks in game and I manage to find the one thats by its lonesome at the back of the map. And I think, "this is my chance!" I get out my remotes, run up to the side of the tank. But oh no's he must have seen me coming! Starts shooting at me and takes out my shields (keep in mind I'm a Minmatar piece of paper). But I'm faster that him, he's going backwards up a hill and i have my core sprint up to 5! This is where the interesting thing happens. Knowing he cant escape me and my remotes, a heavy jumps out and starts shooting me with his PROTO RAIL. I have 200ish armour and i still manage to take him out down to 20% of his. Fearing id kill him, he quickly jumps back into his tank and finishes me off. And I'm looking at the kill feed thinking WTH!? How many crutches does one person need? I get past his blaster maddy, I take out a superior tanked suit with a superior weapon and he just jumps, no "ports" back into his tank to finish the job! Most annoying thing is he probably thinks he's amazing.. Its why its HARD TO Sole A TANK ! USES TEAM WORK ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 143	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:44:00 - [42] - Quote Echoist wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Welcome to the least balanced game ever created by humans. (Wait was this game created by humans or by evil devil spawn creatures?) Crab people Evil crab people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIklYwwd4wE Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
HYENAKILLER X Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 592	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:51:00 - [43] - Quote Lold pretty good. In a tank....gets out with proto rail and heavy suit. How scared of actual fighting do you have to be? Tanks are for pussies.
Demon Buddah Corporate Disaster 163	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:57:00 - [44] - Quote I've seen some pretty ridiculous stufd but wow... Just wow. It took all that to kill you lmao XD thats got to be the most scrubbiest thing ever hahahahahahahaha!
Vman Q TOP NOCH Enterprises 20	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:59:00 - [45] - Quote using an obscure free game to justify manhood. chest beating on forums in defeat = not that manly.
Texas Killionaire Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 51	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:10:00 - [46] - Quote Adv heavy suit + duv + complex dam mod + breach SMG + complex sidearm dam mod + adv red N green btls + m1 locus + base hp 1200 = .... Well, use ur imagination. It's great for point defense and it's fun. If u hvnt tried a fit like this ur not loving urself as hard as u could b. u can either beat ur head against the wall or walk around it. Lulz If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win. Jello Biafra = God AQUPI
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4728	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:15:00 - [47] - Quote Crutches in DUST? YOU DON'T SAY! When was this game ever balanced? lol... been here for a long long time, and there was never a moment where this game didn't have a crutch in some form or another. I don't know who sits down and decides what's balanced but that person needs to take a good long look at what a terrible job he's doing. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1209	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:21:00 - [48] - Quote Lotta crutches out there. I love seeing the heavy with a rail rifle combo. I know I'm up against someone with real skill when I see this.
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 620	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:27:00 - [49] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Some people need this to compete. These people should have their PlayStations smashed with a sledge... Oh man that is gold. Where did you even find that image?! So excellent.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1226	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:03:00 - [50] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ah, HAV pilots. Not only do they have to be in a giant crutch, they have to abuse terrible mechanics and use infantry crutches as well. Or maybe, you know, just don't have a problem with enjoying things in the game. Or maybe, you know, suck at the game so they have abuse any mechanic they to win, then actually thinking they're good players. Or maybe, laughing at the game, enjoying the silly mechanics and having a beer. That's what I do. Although, I'm a BPO scout suit wearer myself. And I crash dropships. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1226	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:04:00 - [51] - Quote Vman Q wrote: using an obscure free game to justify manhood. chest beating on forums in defeat = not that manly. Me have controller, me beat game, me drive tank and shoot boomstick. RAWWWWR! Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 956	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:07:00 - [52] - Quote oh you guys would love duna2002 then How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Tectonic Fusion 1055	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:13:00 - [53] - Quote My crutch right now is my shotgun scout and my HMG heavy. Also my combat rifle (yuck) on my Adv Amarr medium frame (bleh I only skilled into the logistics). Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Adelia Lafayette Science For Death 668	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:13:00 - [54] - Quote the problem here is not the heavy suit the proto rail or even the blaster maddy. It is the lack of an exit/enter animation that you can shoot that fat suit as he gets in and out of the tank. Teleportation is for jump bridges, wormholes(how uplinks work), stargates, and jump drives. scout suit with a micro jump drive that'll be the day. Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
Thrillhouse Van Houten DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 81	Posted - 2014.02.16 09:28:00 - [55] - Quote Two words: Pilot Dropsuit. Want to pilot a vehicle and not suck? That requires a Pilot suit. Otherwise make turrets SUPER slow, torque SUPER low and lower top speed significantly. A Light weapon and a single Eq slot. No highs. No lows. Paper thin shields and armor. Good in a HAV or DS, horrible on the ground (but possible in desperation mode). See how many DS and HAV pilots want to run Heavy suits with RRs when their steering and turret speed are 20% of a dude in a Pilot suit.
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1480	Posted - 2014.02.16 09:32:00 - [56] - Quote The one thing that bugs me is my heavy suit can run up a hill that my LAV cannot. Sorry you brought up heavies and I wanted to vent as well. For that FOTM hiding in a FOTM that is Pandora's Box and you better be glad it did not create a vortex or a tear in time. A heavy before 1.8
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:19:00 - [57] - Quote Using game mechanics to your advantage is being bad now?
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 182	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:39:00 - [58] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: So im playing a game, lots of tanks and RR wielding heavy's. About 5 tanks in game and I manage to find the one thats by its lonesome at the back of the map. And I think, "this is my chance!" I get out my remotes, run up to the side of the tank. But oh no's he must have seen me coming! Starts shooting at me and takes out my shields (keep in mind I'm a Minmatar piece of paper). But I'm faster that him, he's going backwards up a hill and i have my core sprint up to 5! This is where the interesting thing happens. Knowing he cant escape me and my remotes, a heavy jumps out and starts shooting me with his PROTO RAIL. I have 200ish armour and i still manage to take him out down to 20% of his. Fearing id kill him, he quickly jumps back into his tank and finishes me off. And I'm looking at the kill feed thinking WTH!? How many crutches does one person need? I get past his blaster maddy, I take out a superior tanked suit with a superior weapon and he just jumps, no "ports" back into his tank to finish the job! Most annoying thing is he probably thinks he's amazing.. lol wow
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 133	Posted - 2014.02.16 13:29:00 - [59] - Quote lol proto scrubs Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. KAMEHAMEHA professional Heavy for hire
Stinker Butt Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 360	Posted - 2014.02.16 13:44:00 - [60] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: So im playing a game, lots of tanks and RR wielding heavy's. About 5 tanks in game and I manage to find the one thats by its lonesome at the back of the map. And I think, "this is my chance!" I get out my remotes, run up to the side of the tank. But oh no's he must have seen me coming! Starts shooting at me and takes out my shields (keep in mind I'm a Minmatar piece of paper). But I'm faster that him, he's going backwards up a hill and i have my core sprint up to 5! This is where the interesting thing happens. Knowing he cant escape me and my remotes, a heavy jumps out and starts shooting me with his PROTO RAIL. I have 200ish armour and i still manage to take him out down to 20% of his. Fearing id kill him, he quickly jumps back into his tank and finishes me off. And I'm looking at the kill feed thinking WTH!? How many crutches does one person need? I get past his blaster maddy, I take out a superior tanked suit with a superior weapon and he just jumps, no "ports" back into his tank to finish the job! Most annoying thing is he probably thinks he's amazing.. As much as I hate tanks, I'm on the tanker side here. Most tankers just sit in there pilot seat and point and click. This one actually out skilled you. He was prepared for multiple types of attacks and you probably could have beaten him if he only used one, but he didn't. Props to this mystery tanker. There are many ways to play this game and just because your playstyle doesn't work for everyone, it doesn't mean that his playstyle is broken or "unfair." Please give tanks some balance



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