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        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1616
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 00:58:00 -
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 Amarr and Minmatar Vehicles are long overdue and I've been pondering what could possibly be the hold up.
 
 The immediate thought that pops to mind is the lack of art assets for them, so I started thinking about them. Why not utilize existing art assets from Eve? Obviously they'd need to be tweaked a little, but they'd give a good base.
 
 Amarr
 MCC: Abaddon
 Dropship: Harbringer
 HAV: Golden Madrugar reskin
 LAV: Golden Methana reskin (with a popemobile feel to it)
 
 Minmatar
 MCC: Nidhoggur
 Dropship: Thrasher
 HAV: Rusty Gunloggi reskin
 LAV: Rusty Saga reskin (with a dunebuggy feel to it)
 
 The ADS's would be essentially the same as the DS's only with the front turret.
 
 All that would be left then would be the turrets. Artillery/Autocannon and Beam/Pulse lasers would be the obvious choices for obvious reasons. 40mm and 250mm for the Artillery, 12.7mm and 150mm for the Autocannon. I wouldn't know where to start with what could be used by the Amarr outside of Beam/Pulse lasers.
 
 Comments? Questions? Suggestions?
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Operative 1171 Aajli
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 1215
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:12:00 -
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 Here ya go
 
 And here.
 
 You're welcome.
 
 Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book! | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1616
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:14:00 -
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 Awesome, I forgot about those.
 
 Still kinda wish the MCC looked like a Niddy and the DS looked like a Thrasher.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Operative 1171 Aajli
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 1215
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:17:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Awesome, I forgot about those.
 Still kinda wish the MCC looked like a Niddy and the DS looked like a Thrasher.
 
 
 I'm not too fond of the Amarr DS. Lose those wings.
 
 Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book! | 
      
      
        |  Serimos Haeraven
 The Exemplars
 Top Men.
 
 662
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:30:00 -
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 That Minmatar DS looks like the saddest hunk of metal to ever grace the battlefield.
 
 Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive. | 
      
      
        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 1093
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:34:00 -
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 Had me crying at popemobile LOL!
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        |  Vell0cet
 SVER True Blood
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 929
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:41:00 -
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 Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Awesome, I forgot about those.
 Still kinda wish the MCC looked like a Niddy and the DS looked like a Thrasher.
 I'm not too fond of the Amarr DS. Lose those wings. I kind of like them. It looks like a cross between the Dragoon and the Harbinger. Downside is increased area to hit and possible obstruction of the turret field of view. Hard to say without a more detailed model. I hope CCP posts more on these in the near future, it's LONG overdue. Unfortunately, I suspect we'll have to wait until fanfest at the earliest.
 
 Best PvE idea ever! | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1617
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 01:46:00 -
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 Vell0cet wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Awesome, I forgot about those.
 Still kinda wish the MCC looked like a Niddy and the DS looked like a Thrasher.
 I'm not too fond of the Amarr DS. Lose those wings. I kind of like them. It looks like a cross between the Dragoon and the Harbinger. Downside is increased area to hit and possible obstruction of the turret field of view. Hard to say without a more detailed model. I hope CCP posts more on these in the near future, it's LONG overdue. Unfortunately, I suspect we'll have to wait until fanfest at the earliest. IDK, I <3 Thrashers (probably my favorite ship in Eve aside from Minmatar Transport Ships), I really wish the DS model was more akin to the Thrashers than it is.
 
 I also think it would be awesome to see a flight of them pouring forth from a baby-niddy just over the battlefield.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Vulpes Dolosus
 SVER True Blood
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 945
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 02:05:00 -
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 Really? Gypping names from EvE? Get some creativity why don't cha?
 
 Amarr:
 DS: Cherub
 ADS: Seraph
 HAV: Ramiel
 LAV: Irin
 
 Minmatar:
 DS: Goll
 ADS: Geirdriful
 HAV: Balmung
 LAV: Hati/ Skoll
 
 ADS Kills: Lost count a while ago... | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1617
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 02:07:00 -
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 Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Really? Gypping names from EvE? Get some creativity why don't cha?
 Amarr:
 DS: Cherub
 ADS: Seraph
 HAV: Ramiel
 LAV: Irin
 
 Minmatar:
 DS: Goll
 ADS: Geirdriful
 HAV: Balmung
 LAV: Hati/ Skoll
 I wasn't plagiarizing names, I was giving graphical examples.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Sinboto Simmons
 SVER True Blood
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 4564
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 03:41:00 -
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 I want my Matari vehicles, they may not be tanky but it's still mine damnit
 
 Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition) | 
      
      
        |  Darken-Soul
 BIG BAD W0LVES
 
 667
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 03:44:00 -
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 They move too fast.... Oh this isn't a crying thread. Well then. Yeah what he said.
 
 Who wants some? | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1623
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 04:48:00 -
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 Sinboto Simmons wrote:I want my Matari vehicles, they may not be tanky but it's still mine damnit  TBH, this is really the only reason I am spec'd nearly 100% infantry. I am not spending any appreciable amount of SP on vehicles I don't want to use.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  da GAND
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 302
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 04:52:00 -
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 you know what else is overdue? PVE, New Modes or a better version of the skirmish we have right now, testing ranges, and many more things. I'm sure CCP knows this by now and I'm sure that they have more than enough feed back to tell themselves that they are way behind
 
 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you. | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1623
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 04:55:00 -
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 da GAND wrote:you know what else is overdue? PVE, New Modes or a better version of the skirmish we have right now, testing ranges, and many more things. I'm sure CCP knows this by now and I'm sure that they have more than enough feed back to tell themselves that they are way behind too true, too true.
 
 I'd hope we get full Racial Parity first and then everything else that comes along with it.
 
 I mean, each race having their full allotment of tools would be the priority I would think.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  COVERT SUBTERFUGE
 PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 04:56:00 -
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 Dat Matari LAV...
     
 Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War | 
      
      
        |  da GAND
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 303
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 04:59:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:da GAND wrote:you know what else is overdue? PVE, New Modes or a better version of the skirmish we have right now, testing ranges, and many more things. I'm sure CCP knows this by now and I'm sure that they have more than enough feed back to tell themselves that they are way behind too true, too true. I'd hope we get full Racial Parity first and then everything else that comes along with it. I mean, each race having their full allotment of tools would be the priority I would think. 
 
 I see how each race having all their suits, modules , weapons , vehicles and so on is nice but it really just doesn't change the game to me. Unless we have more of that MMO side then you can say that the game has actually changed.
 
 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you. | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1623
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:06:00 -
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 da GAND wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:da GAND wrote:you know what else is overdue? PVE, New Modes or a better version of the skirmish we have right now, testing ranges, and many more things. I'm sure CCP knows this by now and I'm sure that they have more than enough feed back to tell themselves that they are way behind too true, too true. I'd hope we get full Racial Parity first and then everything else that comes along with it. I mean, each race having their full allotment of tools would be the priority I would think. I see how each race having all their suits, modules , weapons , vehicles and so on is nice but it really just doesn't change the game to me. Unless we have more of that MMO side then you can say that the game has actually changed.  Well, IMHO, it is less about changing the game so much as giving a proper foundation to grow from.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  da GAND
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 303
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:13:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:da GAND wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:da GAND wrote:you know what else is overdue? PVE, New Modes or a better version of the skirmish we have right now, testing ranges, and many more things. I'm sure CCP knows this by now and I'm sure that they have more than enough feed back to tell themselves that they are way behind too true, too true. I'd hope we get full Racial Parity first and then everything else that comes along with it. I mean, each race having their full allotment of tools would be the priority I would think. I see how each race having all their suits, modules , weapons , vehicles and so on is nice but it really just doesn't change the game to me. Unless we have more of that MMO side then you can say that the game has actually changed.  Well, IMHO, it is less about changing the game so much as giving a proper foundation to grow from. 
 Which seems to be taking along time, in fact too long. Taking a look at what's happened between last years fan fest and now it's still the same lobby shooter just different stats. And still many things have to balanced no doubt after 1.8 with the new suits, and even longer with more weapons , I don't know about you but I'm here for that link between Dust 514 and EVE not another lobby shooter.
 
 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you. | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1623
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:16:00 -
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 da GAND,
 
 I am here for the same free form sandbox play that I get in Eve. Only difference being that in Eve, I am in a spaceship and in Dust I am in a Dropsuit possibly riding around in a vehicle.
 
 If I wanted to play JALS*, I'd find it somewhere else.
 
 
 
 
 
 *Just Another Lobby Shooter
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  da GAND
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 305
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:25:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:da GAND,
 I am here for the same free form sandbox play that I get in Eve. Only difference being that in Eve, I am in a spaceship and in Dust I am in a Dropsuit possibly riding around in a vehicle.
 
 If I wanted to play JALS*, I'd find it somewhere else.
 
 
 
 
 
 *Just Another Lobby Shooter
 
 
 Well that's good, I'm just frustrated with how little progress has been made( yes I truly believe that)
 
 
 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you. | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1625
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:33:00 -
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 So am I though I am trying to stay positive.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  da GAND
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 305
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:38:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:So am I though I am trying to stay positive. 
 
 Been hard for me to find a reason to start the game but eventually i do on some days. I won't quit this game completely unless fan fest disappoints me on the dust side.
 
 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you. | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1626
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:40:00 -
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 Oh, if this does turn out to be JALS, I'll stick around if only to grief with REs
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  da GAND
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 306
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 05:42:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Oh, if this does turn out to be JALS, I'll stick around if only to grief with REs 
 REs ? Remote Explosives?
 
 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you. | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1626
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 06:14:00 -
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 da GAND wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Oh, if this does turn out to be JALS, I'll stick around if only to grief with REs REs ? Remote Explosives? yep and whatever else extracts tears the best
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Spkr4theDead
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 1824
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 07:17:00 -
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 You're mostly against vehicles, yet make a thread wondering where the Amarr and Minmatar vehicles are.
 
 I'm confused.
 
 I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim | 
      
      
        |  Alaika Arbosa
 Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
 Interstellar Murder of Crows
 
 1627
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 07:22:00 -
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 Spkr4theDead wrote:You're mostly against vehicles, yet make a thread wondering where the Amarr and Minmatar vehicles are.
 I'm confused.
 Because you have absolutely no understanding of how I feel about Vehicles and only think I am mostly against them because I don't share your solo pwnmobile aspirations about them.
 
 That is why you are confused, try reading my posts completely and maybe that will clarify things for you.
 
 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta | 
      
      
        |  Talos Vagheitan
 Ancient Exiles.
 
 449
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 07:34:00 -
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 Alaika Arbosa wrote:Amarr and Minmatar Vehicles are long overdue and I've been pondering what could possibly be the hold up. The immediate thought that pops to mind is the lack of art assets for them, so I started thinking about them. Why not utilize existing art assets from Eve? Obviously they'd need to be tweaked a little, but they'd give a good base.Amarr MCC: Abaddon Dropship: Harbringer HAV: Golden Madrugar reskin LAV: Golden Methana reskin (with a popemobile feel to it)Minmatar MCC: Nidhoggur Dropship: Thrasher HAV: Rusty Gunloggi reskin LAV: Rusty Saga reskin (with a dunebuggy feel to it) The ADS's would be essentially the same as the DS's only with the front turret. All that would be left then would be the turrets. Artillery/Autocannon and Beam/Pulse lasers would be the obvious choices for obvious reasons. 40mm and 250mm for the Artillery, 12.7mm and 150mm for the Autocannon. I wouldn't know where to start with what could be used by the Amarr outside of Beam/Pulse lasers. Comments? Questions? Suggestions? 
 
 
 Pretty sure art is the last thing holding back progress at CCP.
 
 Who cares what some sniper has to say | 
      
      
        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 7069
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 07:59:00 -
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 Been waiting 7 months for my HAV.
 
 "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha | 
      
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