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Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1020	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:48:00 - [1] - Quote They're too fast and have a lot of health and can carry explosives! I die too much! Nerf scouts!
buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 263	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:48:00 - [2] - Quote nerf plc and waserwifle too!!!!!!!1111!!!11 they can do damage so they are op
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1020	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:50:00 - [3] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: nerf plc and waserwifle too!!!!!!!1111!!!11 they can do damage so they are op Great idea! We should also nerf Flaylocks! They STILL kill people!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4143	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:51:00 - [4] - Quote It's just the CR. It literally replaced the Shotgun. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1280	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:52:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: nerf plc and waserwifle too!!!!!!!1111!!!11 they can do damage so they are op Great idea! We should also nerf Flaylocks! They STILL kill people! Thirded! Those stinking PC's have almost killed me on several indistinct occasions. Fun > Realism
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 568	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:55:00 - [6] - Quote Yeah, scouts with plasma cannons has been the FoTM since chromosome Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 97	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:56:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: nerf plc and waserwifle too!!!!!!!1111!!!11 they can do damage so they are op Great idea! We should also nerf Flaylocks! They STILL kill people! Hey don't touch my Flaylock. Dying must be buffed.
buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 263	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:56:00 - [8] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Yeah, scouts with plasma cannons has been the FoTM since chromosome ikr half of the dust players are using them, i saw 2 people using this
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 568	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:57:00 - [9] - Quote buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Yeah, scouts with plasma cannons has been the FoTM since chromosome ikr half of the dust players are using them, i saw 2 people using this Its funny because we both run this to kill tanks lol Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1870	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:00:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: nerf plc and waserwifle too!!!!!!!1111!!!11 they can do damage so they are op Great idea! We should also nerf Flaylocks! They STILL kill people! The Flaylock works just like a contact grenade Nerf it KRRROOOOOOM

Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1617	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:00:00 - [11] - Quote nerf damage it does damage, grade a bullshit right there I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1022	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:02:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: nerf damage it does damage, grade a bullshit right there CCP, please hire this man! He actually knows something about the game!
Aisha Ctarl Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 3329	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:03:00 - [13] - Quote Nerf PS3's, hard freezes and fatal errors kill me too much. I'm a narcissist, LIKE MY POSTS =^,.,^=
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 832	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:03:00 - [14] - Quote Nerf the inverse square law too Gravity keeps destroying my DS "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 376	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:08:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It's just the CR. It literally replaced the Shotgun. yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup. +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 763	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:10:00 - [16] - Quote Nerf footballs! They are a family favorite at barbecues.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1189	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:28:00 - [17] - Quote Nova knives are ridiculous.... they do way to much damage. The DPS is way higher than any rifle. How the hell is that balance? And get this.... THEY HAVE UNLIMITED AMMO! You never need to resupply! WTF!?!?! That's just so ridiculously OP..... get that crap out of the game. I swear any tool can totally dominate with them. I hear that's all the best corps use now. People have even started putting them on the bumpers of JJ's to kill infantry mad-max style.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 578	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:30:00 - [18] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Nova knives are ridiculous.... they do way to much damage. The DPS is way higher than any rifle. How the hell is that balance? And get this.... THEY HAVE UNLIMITED AMMO! You never need to resupply! WTF!?!?! That's just so ridiculously OP..... get that crap out of the game. I swear any tool can totally dominate with them. I hear that's all the best corps use now. People have even started putting them on the bumpers of JJ's to kill infantry mad-max style. AGREED!!!!!1111!!!!!1!!! they need to have only two ammo, and once you run out you shouldn't be able to resupply do to how incredibly OP they are Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1031	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:34:00 - [19] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Nova knives are ridiculous.... they do way to much damage. The DPS is way higher than any rifle. How the hell is that balance? And get this.... THEY HAVE UNLIMITED AMMO! You never need to resupply! WTF!?!?! That's just so ridiculously OP..... get that crap out of the game. I swear any tool can totally dominate with them. I hear that's all the best corps use now. People have even started putting them on the bumpers of JJ's to kill infantry mad-max style. AGREED!!!!!1111!!!!!1!!! they need to have only two ammo, and once you run out you shouldn't be able to resupply do to how incredibly OP they are OMG yes! Don't forget to remove charge to!!1!
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 734	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:46:00 - [20] - Quote -Reads all comments and takes deep breath- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH!!!!! -cough, cough- -clears thought- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH! Please keep posting this crap. You guys make all the BS soooo worth it -wipes single tear- Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!

Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3145	Posted - 2014.02.14 05:32:00 - [21] - Quote Let's just go to the roots without ripping out the heart Kirk.... Nerf Buffing or.... Buff Nerfing Please deposit likes in Swiss Bank account. The Feds don't ensure beyond 3k.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1244	Posted - 2014.02.14 05:54:00 - [22] - Quote Ivan Avogadro wrote: Nerf footballs! They are a family favorite at barbecues. Nerf families. They have BBQs with favorite things at them. a tear rolls out of my orphans eye {:)}{3GÇó>
DEZKA DIABLO A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 175	Posted - 2014.02.14 06:20:00 - [23] - Quote They forum nerfed OZAROW today because of his proficiency 12 potty mouth, dudes OP
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 932	Posted - 2014.02.14 06:27:00 - [24] - Quote Hide yo kids, hide yo wife cus dem scouts be rapin everybody up in here. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 94	Posted - 2014.02.14 06:33:00 - [25] - Quote Mundus, God of lag has shown his fury! We must appease him by offering of the nerf hammer! Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 893	Posted - 2014.02.14 11:02:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Just erase this game Public Relations WJR Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2179	Posted - 2014.02.14 11:48:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It's just the CR. It literally replaced the Shotgun. No! CR is UP! Buff it! Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 488	Posted - 2014.02.14 11:51:00 - [28] - Quote I agree with all this thread. 0XD XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
3 Pistols Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.02.14 11:56:00 - [29] - Quote most the scouts suck balls very few are actually good lel buff scouts
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 648	Posted - 2014.02.14 13:05:00 - [30] - Quote 3 Pistols wrote: most the scouts suck balls very few are actually good lel buff scouts You are an idiotic wannabe. 3 Pistols is such an idiot! Buff him! Psycho Explosives are my thing, and knives Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP

jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 164	Posted - 2014.02.14 13:38:00 - [31] - Quote For the good of the community this thread has been bumped. Less QQ more PewPew
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 473	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:42:00 - [32] - Quote Nerf the waiting time for 1.8! Scanner spam is taking too long to disappear! This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Onesimus Tarsus 1187	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:44:00 - [33] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It's just the CR. It literally replaced the Shotgun. Up to and including 100 meters. Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2471	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:48:00 - [34] - Quote 'Fatal Error' is the most OP ** in this game. Ever. HAV514, MD514, AR514 all had counters. FE514 is a ***** juggernaut. I GÖú Kittens.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 213	Posted - 2014.02.14 17:26:00 - [35] - Quote I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Tectonic Fusion 1049	Posted - 2014.02.14 17:28:00 - [36] - Quote Joel II X wrote: buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote: nerf plc and waserwifle too!!!!!!!1111!!!11 they can do damage so they are op Great idea! We should also nerf Flaylocks! They STILL kill people! That reminds me. I had like 15 HP armor left, and some scrub pulls out an OP basic flaylock pistol AND kills me with it. WTF GUYS?! Why isn't CCP doing anythiing about it? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6825	Posted - 2014.02.14 17:32:00 - [37] - Quote Yes, please nerf the scout. I don't feel useless enough. I want my knives to be as useless as a broken condom and my suit to be so fragile that jumping a 2-inch ledge kills me. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 698	Posted - 2014.02.14 17:44:00 - [38] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. At first I'm thinking you were going with the whole BS trolling nature of the thread, then I'm like nah this guy might be serious. So now I don't know which it is, but in case you're serious, sorry you ran up against a beast scout with skills who is playing his role to its max, but you just gotta tip your cap to the guy. Scouts are fun, but its definitely tougher to be bad ass with a scout than a medium frame. Now that had been said NERF THE NERF HAMMER! Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2228	Posted - 2014.02.14 17:45:00 - [39] - Quote Is it just me, or have their been a massive influx of scouts? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 213	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:03:00 - [40] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Is it just me, or have their been a massive influx of scouts? They've been FoTM since tac net changes - good thing Tanks and RRs came in 1.7 to even things out. Or it could be the Shinobi event showing how OP NKs are. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.

MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 506	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:06:00 - [41] - Quote When I turn around and spot a scout in my 0 damage mod standard combat rifle logi fit, the scout dies in 0.7 seconds to my ~~aim assist~~ mad MLG skillz This is completely unacceptable, sometimes they can return fire before inevitably dying! I should be able to kill them in 0.3 seconds!
Zimander 0uter.Heaven 27	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:31:00 - [42] - Quote hey lets NERF everything... everything is OP and kill me and You ... lets give our clone a stick so that can puck each aether we can play long hours all days and don't lose anything
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1792	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:37:00 - [43] - Quote Zimander wrote: hey lets NERF everything... everything is OP and kill me and You ... lets give our clone a stick so that can puck each aether we can play long hours all days and don't lose anything That would just make time OP.
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 428	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:51:00 - [44] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. At first I'm thinking you were going with the whole BS trolling nature of the thread, then I'm like nah this guy might be serious. So now I don't know which it is, but in case you're serious, sorry you ran up against a beast scout with skills who is playing his role to its max, but you just gotta tip your cap to the guy. Scouts are fun, but its definitely tougher to be bad ass with a scout than a medium frame. Now that had been said NERF THE NERF HAMMER! Fair fecks Zahle for being nice in your response. Me, I'm going for the get good scrub Yan, just because you have proto doesn't mean you no longer have to watch each others backs, tactically round corners, etc. Scouts has a good base scan precision so that's how they can see you coming, but they are very low eHP suits so if ye play right they shouldn't tear ye all up, unless they're one of the few scout gods in this game. The mediums don't have that scan precision but make up for it in both tank and gank abilities. The shotgun has a damage description per plasma pellet, of which it has I think 12 pellets per shot. It has an internal magazine which is why it has to reload 1 at a time. It also has terrible range so it takes a skilled player to get close to use it, or a mediocre player against careless players. And lastly, lol, if you think all the diversity in this game should be removed just to allow your ineptitude to shine, I heartily recommend playing a different game. We've only gotten away from AR514, lets not go back. For ambush it is very much Tank514 now, but we all know that, and until that issue is resolved it's everyone's own fault if they play that mode without that in mind.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 80	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:56:00 - [45] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Are you ***** stupid? The reloading isn't s glitch. It reloads one shell at a time. Here's an idea get some range on him or stop giving. They can see you from the tacnet.... they hide because they are paper thin and will die one your op rifle sneezes at him. That's what being a scout is, sneaking around the shadows picking your targets. If you were actually a vet than you would know how to counter these weapons... My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 80	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:58:00 - [46] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Zimander wrote: hey lets NERF everything... everything is OP and kill me and You ... lets give our clone a stick so that can puck each aether we can play long hours all days and don't lose anything That would just make time OP. THAT WOULD MAKE NERF HAMMERS OP My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 167	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:12:00 - [47] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Nice work I think u win :-) Less QQ more PewPew
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 214	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:18:00 - [48] - Quote jordy mack wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Nice work I think u win :-) I tip my hat to you good sir. Since I was the scout in that scenario, I'm going to take the compliments I've gotten so far as well ^_^ GG Zhale, Yeup, Oxskull. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 84	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:20:00 - [49] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: jordy mack wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Nice work I think u win :-) I tip my hat to you good sir. Since I was the scout in that scenario, I'm going to take the compliments I've gotten so far as well ^_^ GG Zhale, Yeup, Oxskull. You troll. My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 214	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:27:00 - [50] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: You troll. But...but, I didn't even use an alt/kept my sig... :-P You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.

Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1634	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:36:00 - [51] - Quote I think the limit on tanks pe rmatch is getting ridiculous, it's a bout time CCP steps in and adjusts it. Sick and tired of infanty, get a tank you losers. Tanks are the 1.7cloak for all scout, 92.8% of 47% of nova knife kills are from tank based attacks. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 767	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:40:00 - [52] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Are you ***** stupid? The reloading isn't s glitch. It reloads one shell at a time. Here's an idea get some range on him or stop giving. They can see you from the tacnet.... they hide because they are paper thin and will die one your op rifle sneezes at him. That's what being a scout is, sneaking around the shadows picking your targets. If you were actually a vet than you would know how to counter these weapons... good troll trolled you good.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 592	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:54:00 - [53] - Quote im not quite sure how this thread hasn't been locked yet, mine got locked Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 86	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:59:00 - [54] - Quote Ivan Avogadro wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Are you ***** stupid? The reloading isn't s glitch. It reloads one shell at a time. Here's an idea get some range on him or stop giving. They can see you from the tacnet.... they hide because they are paper thin and will die one your op rifle sneezes at him. That's what being a scout is, sneaking around the shadows picking your targets. If you were actually a vet than you would know how to counter these weapons... good troll trolled you good. I noticed .___. Shame on me. My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.
Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1638	Posted - 2014.02.14 20:13:00 - [55] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: im not quite sure how this thread hasn't been locked yet, mine got locked This is a constructive thread with legitimate feedback, everything is OP/UP, nothing is balanced. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1084	Posted - 2014.02.14 20:16:00 - [56] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: im not quite sure how this thread hasn't been locked yet, mine got locked Locking is OP.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1874	Posted - 2014.02.14 20:18:00 - [57] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: im not quite sure how this thread hasn't been locked yet, mine got locked This is a constructive thread with legitimate feedback, everything is OP/UP, nothing is balanced. By far the least balanced thing in this game tends to be the mental state of us as a player base KRRROOOOOOM
Infine Sentinel Better Hide R Die 663	Posted - 2014.02.14 20:29:00 - [58] - Quote I saw a Std A1 sentinel today that had 500 shields and 700 armor this is complete BS They should be able to get 1000+ shields and armor on Militia! Pie. Forum warrior level 231423423
Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1641	Posted - 2014.02.14 20:31:00 - [59] - Quote Infine Sentinel wrote: I saw a Std A1 sentinel today that had 500 shields and 700 armor this is complete BS They should be able to get 1000+ shields and armor on Militia! 1000, pfft logis can do that 5000, AK.0 "Soma" Sentinel I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Damian Crisis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 71	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:01:00 - [60] - Quote I think everything in the game is OP. We should take out ALL WEAPONS and ALL VECHILES and HACKING and just hug each other. It'll be fun! Greta for the Valentines Day spirit today! :D Oh oh oh oh oh MAYBE!!! We can just have guns that throw hugs, hearts and kisses at each other.... It'll be adorable!! <3!! I don't like seeing things blink Blue...

Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1642	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:06:00 - [61] - Quote Damian Crisis wrote: I think everything in the game is OP. We should take out ALL WEAPONS and ALL VECHILES and HACKING and just hug each other. It'll be fun! Greta for the Valentines Day spirit today! :D Oh oh oh oh oh MAYBE!!! We can just have guns that throw hugs, hearts and kisses at each other.... It'll be adorable!! <3!! The hugs will be OP due to aim assist, can't say I agree with you idea I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 592	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:24:00 - [62] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: They forum nerfed OZAROW today because of his proficiency 12 potty mouth, dudes OP They nerfed me yesterday too Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 9	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:26:00 - [63] - Quote Flux grenades are OP they took out the shields on my Soma WTF?
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 11	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:38:00 - [64] - Quote My solution to all weapons : Take ALL of them back from the game so until at least 2.0, we will only fight by hitting each other with our fists. In the end, it might be the better solution for everyone... And more important, it would clear the forum once and for all of all the : this weapon is OP, don't nerf that to OP thing etc. Gallente logistic dropsuit / Dropship pilot
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 701	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:44:00 - [65] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Is it just me, or have their been a massive influx of scouts? Maybe a lot of people like me, looked at the new scout changes, figured out how OP they will become, and started skilling into them to try hard mode first. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 842	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:47:00 - [66] - Quote So... remotes are OP and that makes scouts OP... i don't get how you're w(b)rains work. *Assassination is my thing.*
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 701	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:48:00 - [67] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: jordy mack wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Nice work I think u win :-) I tip my hat to you good sir. Since I was the scout in that scenario, I'm going to take the compliments I've gotten so far as well ^_^ GG Zhale, Yeup, Oxskull. I thought my troll sense was tingling, LOL good on you sir. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6829	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:48:00 - [68] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: So... remotes are OP and that makes scouts OP... i don't get how you're w(b)rains work. You should have a trolldar on your person at all time. I'll sell you one for 50 million ISK. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 701	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:52:00 - [69] - Quote Evan Gotabor wrote: My solution to all weapons : Take ALL of them back from the game so until at least 2.0, we will only fight by hitting each other with our fists. In the end, it might be the better solution for everyone... And more important, it would clear the forum once and for all of all the : this weapon is OP, don't nerf that to OP thing etc. You must be stacking myofibril stimulants...your fists are OP! Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1087	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:53:00 - [70] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: So... remotes are OP and that makes scouts OP... i don't get how you're w(b)rains work. You should have a trolldar on your person at all time. I'll sell you one for 50 million ISK. WTF! That completely takes away the one thing we do best! Trolldars are OP!

Lucifalic Nos Nothi 346	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:37:00 - [71] - Quote hugging is op, we should just nod at each other from 42 meters. stop being OP Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:15:00 - [72] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: They forum nerfed OZAROW today because of his proficiency 12 potty mouth, dudes OP They nerfed me yesterday too https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1837556#post1837556 CCP Logibro is op... Did you see that? He killed the thread with one hit! CCP NEEDS TO NERF LOGIBRO My Minnie is friendly.. don't worry, I don't bite. I slash.


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