DUST Search - It's official, scouts are OP

Zahle Undt wrote:

Yan Darn wrote:

I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing'

TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed.

First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills.

1. Tanks
2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR.
3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs).

Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike.

So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics.

First let me highlight the **** gun glitches.

1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot).

2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch.

The guy totally abused these glitches by:

1. Not facing us head on.
2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill.
3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message.

We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one.

This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses!

Combined with hiding and playing like a ***** (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience.

If this **** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets.

Sort it out CCP.

At first I'm thinking you were going with the whole BS trolling nature of the thread, then I'm like nah this guy might be serious. So now I don't know which it is, but in case you're serious, sorry you ran up against a beast scout with skills who is playing his role to its max, but you just gotta tip your cap to the guy. Scouts are fun, but its definitely tougher to be bad ass with a scout than a medium frame.

Now that had been said

NERF THE NERF HAMMER!


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Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 428	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:51:00 - [1] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. At first I'm thinking you were going with the whole BS trolling nature of the thread, then I'm like nah this guy might be serious. So now I don't know which it is, but in case you're serious, sorry you ran up against a beast scout with skills who is playing his role to its max, but you just gotta tip your cap to the guy. Scouts are fun, but its definitely tougher to be bad ass with a scout than a medium frame. Now that had been said NERF THE NERF HAMMER! Fair fecks Zahle for being nice in your response. Me, I'm going for the get good scrub Yan, just because you have proto doesn't mean you no longer have to watch each others backs, tactically round corners, etc. Scouts has a good base scan precision so that's how they can see you coming, but they are very low eHP suits so if ye play right they shouldn't tear ye all up, unless they're one of the few scout gods in this game. The mediums don't have that scan precision but make up for it in both tank and gank abilities. The shotgun has a damage description per plasma pellet, of which it has I think 12 pellets per shot. It has an internal magazine which is why it has to reload 1 at a time. It also has terrible range so it takes a skilled player to get close to use it, or a mediocre player against careless players. And lastly, lol, if you think all the diversity in this game should be removed just to allow your ineptitude to shine, I heartily recommend playing a different game. We've only gotten away from AR514, lets not go back. For ambush it is very much Tank514 now, but we all know that, and until that issue is resolved it's everyone's own fault if they play that mode without that in mind.