DUST Search - It's official, scouts are OP

jordy mack wrote:

Yan Darn wrote:

I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing'

TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed.

First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills.

1. Tanks
2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR.
3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs).

Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike.

So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics.

First let me highlight the **** gun glitches.

1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot).

2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch.

The guy totally abused these glitches by:

1. Not facing us head on.
2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill.
3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message.

We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one.

This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses!

Combined with hiding and playing like a ***** (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience.

If this **** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets.

Sort it out CCP.

Nice work I think u win :-)

You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.


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Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 213	Posted - 2014.02.14 17:26:00 - [1] - Quote I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 213	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:03:00 - [2] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Is it just me, or have their been a massive influx of scouts? They've been FoTM since tac net changes - good thing Tanks and RRs came in 1.7 to even things out. Or it could be the Shinobi event showing how OP NKs are. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 214	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:18:00 - [3] - Quote jordy mack wrote: Yan Darn wrote: I'm glad some level minded players agree with this - I was going to start my own thread on a similar imbalance in the game - but I'll post my analysis here: 'it's official, shotguns need fixing' TL;DR - this game should just have rifles and tanks if It wants to succeed. First - let me educate you guys in the main three ways you can avoid being a scrub and actually show you got skills. 1. Tanks 2. Sentinel with any rifle but AR. 3. Armour tanked med frame With any rifle but AR (preferably with damage mods in highs). Anything else is pretty much gonna be scrub tactic bullshit that makes the game totally not fun for new players and vets alike. So as well as scrub REs there is shotguns! My proto squad were trying to take bravo and this one BPO scrub with a STD shotgun killed all of us with scrubs tactics. First let me highlight the ** gun glitches. 1. Does way more damage than it it states - it actually has the same Alpha damage as a charged viziam+damage mods (the only legit way to get so much damage in one shot). 2. Reload individual rounds instead of having to reload a clip - no other gun can do that, so it's obviously a glitch. The guy totally abused these glitches by: 1. Not facing us head on. 2. Hiding like a scrub after each kill. 3. Somehow knowing when we were coming around corners, up/down stairs - I'm thinking hack, since we got no 'you have been scanned' message. We had to spread out, since we got RE'd by the same scrub when we were all bunched together (a pro tactic, you shouldn't be to counter that with AOE weapons). So, now that we were all separated trying track the guy down (he wasn't showing up on a proto scanner - more hacks I guess), he was just picking us off one by one. This is like impossible to counter - he's got charged ScR damage without having to charge - the shotgun has absolutely no weaknesses! Combined with hiding and playing like a * (most of us didn't even glimpse him before we died) this totally ruined our gameplay experience. If this ** doesn't get balanced soon, new players are going to give up and so are vets. Sort it out CCP. Nice work I think u win :-) I tip my hat to you good sir. Since I was the scout in that scenario, I'm going to take the compliments I've gotten so far as well ^_^ GG Zhale, Yeup, Oxskull. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 214	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:27:00 - [4] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: You troll. But...but, I didn't even use an alt/kept my sig... :-P You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.