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The Attorney General
1940
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:01:00 -
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This is just a thread of bads having a pity party.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1940
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:This is just a thread of bads having a pity party. Kinda reminds me of your pre 1.7 posts.
Nice try, but you can go back to the start of uprising, where I am saying that tanks are fine, and that the only major change needs to be rendering fixes.
Unlike you, I actually adapted, learned to thrive and then made posts. Also, I didn't have the experience of using a crutch like all the pre-uprising tankers did, so I was not spoiled by being OP.
You were, and you can't help but long for the days when your OP weapon that did the work for you made you feel strong.
Poor baby.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1940
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
I have also adapted.
That's why I specced back into Particle Cannons.
Your using a crutch right now, and your tank pretty much does all the work for you. What are you talking about?
I think you should get some rest dude.
So you went from one OP thing to another? Wow you are a shameless scrub.
I was tanking before the changes, and I will be tanking after they get nerfed. Because I am a tanker.
You on the other hand are just chasing whatever can make up for your lack of skill.
BTW, there is still workable AV, you just refuse to spec into it. I guess you really are not an AV player like you want to pretend you are.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1941
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I've got both Missiles and Blasters too. But wasn't it tankers who said that the best AV should be another HAV?
I was also tanking before the changes, and I will still tank after the changes.
I'm not an AV player? Swarm Launchers & Plasma Cannons are specifically classified as AV weapons, so yes I am an AV player. Along with that, Gunnlogies are HAVs, and Particle Cannons and Neuron Blasters are also turrets, so yes I am also a tanker as well.
It's rather hilarious. A tanker tells me to adapt, and I do. Then they come tell me about how they don't like the way I adapted.
Could you please make up your mind already?
I am known as a tanker. Why is that? Because you will always find The Attorney General in a tank. There are limited exceptions, like speccing Sniper Rifles to counter forges and swarms from before 1.6, but beyond that, it is 100% tanking.
Lots of AV? I tank.
Endless enemy tanks? I keep tanking.
PC? I tank.
If you see me on the other team, you know I am going to tank. It is not even a question.
You say you tanked before, but no one ever witnessed it. Regardless, it wasn't your main activity, the focus of your SP. By your own admission, you had 10m into swarms and support skills. So unless you were running Omega boosters since they first went on sale, it is likely that a majority of your SP went into infantry skills. This mitigates any claim of calling yourself a tanker.
I am not a logi because I drive my tank in a logistics suit.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1941
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:54:00 -
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abarkrishna wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Do you all believe that one guy should be able to two shot a Tank? LOL. Do you think tanks should be cheaper than proto suits with 5 times the effectiveness in every sense? Do you think one weapon should be both AV and AI? Why should I run my logi when I can just run tanks and actually profit?
1. An all around basic tank, which is the limit for keeping the cost down under a proto suit is not 5 times more effective. If it is a blaster tank, it is more effective at killing infantry than a dropsuit, but it will be very vulnerable to either a cheap MLT rail, or pretty much any combo of AV once the hardeners are off. So if a cheap tank can be wiped out by an equally cheap railgun, how effective is it? Further, while in the tank, you cannot perform any of those wonderful squad actions like ammo, uplinks, hacking etc.
With that said, tanks could use a price increase. Just not for the reason you think. If someone wants to use a tank for a short joyride to kill some dumb reds who didn't think about AV out of the gate, they should be able to. When they get destroyed it should cost them though.
2. PLC is dual use. So is the FG. The FG was so good at AI that it had to be nerfed. Blasters give up efficiency versus vehicles in order to be anti infantry focused. Missiles make trades in both departments, and Railguns are vehicle focused.
3. If you are motivated solely by profit, just grab a starter fit and STFU.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1941
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:31:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
I don't think blasters themselves are a problem. They only seem like a problem now because you can ALWAYS get them in range, as there is no effective AV threat.
Easy solution: buff AV. Maybe +30% damage for forges and +50% damage plus a range increase for swarms. That way blasters will remain devastating but the challenge will be to get them in range.
That is just overkill. The FG needs no more damage. If you want to increase its DPS you do it by ROF. Otherwise there is no point having LAVs and dropships. Swarms do not need a buff to stronger than 1.6 levels. Are you drunk?
Swarms should get EITHER a damage buff to make them a keep away weapon, or range to make them a harassing killer. You don't give them both and reward scrubs for letting a weapon do the work for them.
Or, instead of all that, and really making things awkard for every other class, how about you just chop 30% off the range of the blaster tank?
No one can really explain why the blaster got such a range buff in 1.7, it did not need it.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1945
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Posted - 2014.02.13 17:08:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
And before anyone says '1.7 tanking IS HARD!!!!111', explain to me Duna's thousands of monthly kills at 88 KDR.
Ambush stomping. Plus, he runs away when the tank gets popped.
If they just removed vehicles from Ambush Duna would quit the game and many noobs would still be playing.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1949
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:49:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
Whats fair amd balanced setting?
Where one MLT tank requires 2-3proto forges in a high up position, with infantry protection?
They don't need infantry protection up high, and 3 forges will keep ALL vehicles away, not just one tank.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1951
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Whats fair amd balanced setting?
Where one MLT tank requires 2-3proto forges in a high up position, with infantry protection?
They don't need infantry protection up high, and 3 forges will keep ALL vehicles away, not just one tank. They'll still need other infantry for resupplying and reps when the enemy team fields a Sniper.
LOL, Atiim wants to pretend that he spent SP on multiple things, but that no one else does.
Spawn in as a logi, bring links and hives, throw your useless corpse off the rooftop and spawn with the forge. One man in a fat suit with lots of reps and resupply for all his friends.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
1951
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:An even match can last a very long time, and your hives might run out; and according to you it's not just one man in a fat suit.
It's 3.
And one of them can do the hives next time, or one guy can be greedy for WP.
You still haven't made a point.
Oh thats right, you just troll because you can't AV or tank.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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