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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:33:00 -
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So um... *sucks on teeth*... considering that 1.8 is likely to come around early March and we have not seen a single new Dev Blog so far since the end of January of this year, are there any improvement (mechanics wise) coming for the Nova Knives?
And by "improvements" I mean at least one of the following:
1. Fix that god damn annoying part of the knives that causes our sprint to be interrupted whenever we even instant-swipe the knives against someone. If I'm chasing someone and I swing the knives, I expect to keep on running. I can go outside in real life right now with a kitchen knife and swing it around while sprinting through the neighborhood and I'm not even wearing a dropsuit. Of course, I would need to do that safely without someone calling the police on me thinking I'm some crazy nut with a knife. So why is it that we're 20,000+ years into the future in this game and I can't even do that with my dropsuit and knives?
2. I CAN HAZ SPRINT WHILE HOLDING CHARGE??? PLZ. THK U.
3. I would really appreciate it if you guys would at least fix that bug where the knives seem to stop swiping after 3 consecutive instant-swipes.
4. So about that temporary hot fix you made for the knives back in 1.6, is that being overhauled finally in 1.8?
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
122
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:47:00 -
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you looking for that samurai slash they been talking bout aint you
admit it thats the whole point of this thread
Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden.
KAMEHAMEHA
professional Heavy for hire
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
6662
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:49:00 -
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Early March? Stop setting yourself up for disappointment. All they said was March.
And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY"
CPM Info and Q&A -Status: Open
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:57:00 -
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Stops after 3 swipes? CLICK THE FIRE BUTTON DAMNIT, hitting the melee button uses stamina, using the fire button uses no stamina
When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6814
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:24:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Stops after 3 swipes? CLICK THE FIRE BUTTON DAMNIT, hitting the melee button uses stamina, using the fire button uses no stamina
Fail reply is fail. Nova knives are technically triggered as sidearms. Not as melee weapons.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6814
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:25:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:you looking for that samurai slash they been talking bout aint you
admit it thats the whole point of this thread
I do want to feel like samurai jack.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
654
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:44:00 -
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I love knifing atm, it works even if it takes 4/5 hits on a Pro Heavy the hit detection seems perfect so either you are lagging or you need to get some more practice in
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2696
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:09:00 -
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Mak, at some point I want you to fight a scout in my corp 1v1 with knives. Not anytime soon but sooner than soonGäó
His name is x7 lion.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6816
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Posted - 2014.02.13 17:12:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I love knifing atm, it works even if it takes 4/5 hits on a Pro Heavy the hit detection seems perfect so either you are lagging or you need to get some more practice in
Most of the time the problem is lag especially when you get close to someone. But there are still plenty of cases even now where I thought to myself...
"Damn it, if only I didn't have to walk to the bastard with charged knives."
or
"Why did I stop sprinting? Had I kept on going I would've had him!"
or
"OMG, I HAD HIM! Why does using the nova knives result in me having tunnel vision?"
It's those small problems when you really want the knives to be addressed. Sure, the incoming cloak might help but that's just like putting paint on top of corroded metal. You won't see the corrosion but the corrosion will still be there causing problems.
The point I'm trying to make here is that these problem, though miniscule, are the equivalent of a thorn on one's side. Most of the time a skilled knifer wouldn't need to worry about these problems, but when these problems do crop up it creates a level of frustration that lingers for quite a while even in a 1v1 encounter. Sometimes the most practical solution is to just jump-charge attack someone and that really helps but that trick only works one time per encounter and if you fail to kill at that point, your chances of survival drop significantly and you're left up to chance to see whether you succeed or not.
It's these little things that should be part of the "1,000 Paper Cuts" that, if addressed, can finally remove the annoying thorns on one's side. In the meantime, these problems are mostly bearable so long as I don't find myself in situations where they can be a complete hindrance.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1901
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Posted - 2014.02.13 17:17:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:So um... *sucks on teeth*... considering that 1.8 is likely to come around early March and we have not seen a single new Dev Blog so far since the end of January of this year, are there any improvement (mechanics wise) coming for the Nova Knives?
And by "improvements" I mean at least one of the following:
1. Fix that god damn annoying part of the knives that causes our sprint to be interrupted whenever we even instant-swipe the knives against someone. If I'm chasing someone and I swing the knives, I expect to keep on running. I can go outside in real life right now with a kitchen knife and swing it around while sprinting through the neighborhood and I'm not even wearing a dropsuit. Of course, I would need to do that safely without someone calling the police on me thinking I'm some crazy nut with a knife. So why is it that we're 20,000+ years into the future in this game and I can't even do that with my dropsuit and knives?
2. I CAN HAZ SPRINT WHILE HOLDING CHARGE??? PLZ. THK U.
3. I would really appreciate it if you guys would at least fix that bug where the knives seem to stop swiping after 3 consecutive instant-swipes.
4. So about that temporary hot fix you made for the knives back in 1.6, is that being overhauled finally in 1.8?
please do this in real life and video tape it. For bonus points chase your neighbors with a hockey mask on.
For the Federation!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9384
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:19:00 -
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I wish people couldn't backpedal out of the slash distance and shoot you...
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6825
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:23:00 -
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Well, I can confirm that the knives no longer jam up after three consecutive instant swipes. That's an improvement for once. Now I don't have to worry about freezing up my knives if I have to slash wildly in a tight situation.
But still... too many instances where I often yell at the TV whenever I'm in a small room with an enemy merc and I can't stab him because:
A) Tunnel vision B) The 1.6 hotfix for the hit detection is reminding me why it's only temporary according to CCP. C) My sprint gets interrupted when I use the instant-swipe.*
* - The problem with "c" is that whenever I'm chasing someone and deal damage with the instant slash, the enemy at that point already knows I'm there behind them after they hear the slashing noise and they lose their shield. At that point it becomes critical for a knifer to do another instant-slash right there on the spot while their still behind them. But because the sprint got interrupted and the enemy is still moving, that ninja have to first sprint again to catch up and by the time he catches up it's too late. The enemy turns around, back pedals, and opens fire. Game over.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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shadow drake35
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
65
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:25:00 -
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i would like early march but not looking like that will happen
The Mercenary Way
Who careswhat i use as long as the job is done and i get paid.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2180
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:41:00 -
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CCP is just looking out for your safety. Even they know you shouldn't run with knives.
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6827
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Posted - 2014.02.14 20:17:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:CCP is just looking out for your safety. Even they know you shouldn't run with knives.
To be honest, when I hand someone the knife I lack the courtesy of giving it to them handle first.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
7132
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:13:00 -
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Yay! My thread gets mentioned in the biweekly thread. Too bad I didn't notice it sooner. Do'h.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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CLONE ALPHA 001
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:07:00 -
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I would like some nova SWORDS !!! Make them a light weapon Give um higher damage then a knife and a 1.5 meter range with a 60 degree arc for some battle field ninja action would go good with the new cloaky majigger |
Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs Canis Eliminatus Operatives
409
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Well, I can confirm that the knives no longer jam up after three consecutive instant swipes. That's an improvement for once. Now I don't have to worry about freezing up my knives if I have to slash wildly in a tight situation.
But still... too many instances where I often yell at the TV whenever I'm in a small room with an enemy merc and I can't stab him because:
A) Tunnel vision B) The 1.6 hotfix for the hit detection is reminding me why it's only temporary according to CCP. C) My sprint gets interrupted when I use the instant-swipe.*
* - The problem with "c" is that whenever I'm chasing someone and deal damage with the instant slash, the enemy at that point already knows I'm there behind them after they hear the slashing noise and they lose their shield. At that point it becomes critical for a knifer to do another instant-slash right there on the spot while their still behind them. But because the sprint got interrupted and the enemy is still moving, that ninja have to first sprint again to catch up and by the time he catches up it's too late. The enemy turns around, back pedals, and opens fire. Game over.
no sprint attacks, other than that your correct we need sprint charge. I'm not sure how the'll fix tunnel vision.
I make merc cakes, my pan is a dropship.
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VikingKong iBUN
Third Rock From The Sun
31
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:20:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:So um... *sucks on teeth*... considering that 1.8 is likely to come around early March and we have not seen a single new Dev Blog so far since the end of January of this year, are there any improvement (mechanics wise) coming for the Nova Knives?
And by "improvements" I mean at least one of the following:
1. Fix that god damn annoying part of the knives that causes our sprint to be interrupted whenever we even instant-swipe the knives against someone. If I'm chasing someone and I swing the knives, I expect to keep on running. I can go outside in real life right now with a kitchen knife and swing it around while sprinting through the neighborhood and I'm not even wearing a dropsuit. Of course, I would need to do that safely without someone calling the police on me thinking I'm some crazy nut with a knife. So why is it that we're 20,000+ years into the future in this game and I can't even do that with my dropsuit and knives?
2. I CAN HAZ SPRINT WHILE HOLDING CHARGE??? PLZ. THK U.
3. I would really appreciate it if you guys would at least fix that bug where the knives seem to stop swiping after 3 consecutive instant-swipes.
4. So about that temporary hot fix you made for the knives back in 1.6, is that being overhauled finally in 1.8? please do this in real life and video tape it. For bonus points chase your neighbors with a hockey mask on. Use a clown mask, Fallout 3 style :D |
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