We don't need independent heavies. One hp is enough at the most two hp/s.

I think all suits should have passive armor. Specially with the huge buff the Caldari are getting to shield repair.

Race H/M/L
Caldari 0/0/0
Minmatar 1/1/2
Amarr 2/3/4
Gallente 3/5/7

Honestly that 3 HP/s is extremely insignificant. On a decently tanked Gal scout (2 basic plates to not break speed) without any efficacy bonus would take 100 seconds to recover fully. While a Caldari with a maxed tank would take at most 13 seconds. Without breaking tank, speed, or utility.

Amor should never repair as fast as shields. That is why plates give so many hp. Do you want more armor regen? Sacrifice your brick tanking

Concerned at the number of gal heavies that will be on field after 1.8. More ranking ability than the Amarr and with an in-built 5hp/sec rep at max level coupled with a supposed nerf to damage mods. Why bother with the Amarr (unless RP or you use the Dren suit a lot)?

How are they getting 5 hp at max level?

How are they getting 5 hp at max level?

Isn't it 1hp per skill level?

No

I personally think they should not have an inherent armor rep "why you dip-****" you ask well simple it has more low slots than the Amarr heavy making it the better "ARMOR TANKER" with stacked complex plates. But it's just my opinion, you may now proceed to cleverly rip my post apart and poop on it :)

Don't forget it moves faster than amarr heavy.

7 =/= 50...

3hp/s natural regen does not an independent heavy make.

3hp/s natural regen DOES an accurate racial representation make.

One number is persistent and has no delay. Also the person getting the armor rep bonus is still enjoying a good shield rep while the reverse for the other guy is not likely true.

As for the original topic. The scout has a harder time getting a decent armor rep on his suit. On the Heavy Frame it's a very small bonus, on the squishy Scout more a necessity.

I'm just going to point out that armor tankers do not have a "good shield rep." The Gal/Amarr sentinels both have 15/s shield rep, even if you added that to 7, it still =/= 50. Not that I'm supporting his idea of 3/5/7 repair, but I just thought that was pertinent.

Personally I would just say that all Gallente suits should have the same progression. STD/ADV/PRO-->1/2/3.

I personally think they should not have an inherent armor rep "why you dip-****" you ask well simple it has more low slots than the Amarr heavy making it the better "ARMOR TANKER" with stacked complex plates. But it's just my opinion, you may now proceed to cleverly rip my post apart and poop on it :)

Same reason they have the best shield regen/delay stats

7 =/= 50...

But stack on two complex reppers and two complex Plates: ~20 hp/s CONSTANT armor rep with around 560 armor. Combine with your 223 buffer shield, and you have one tough Gal Assault.

Comparison: Cal Assault with 553 shields and 243 armor vs. 223 Shield and 560 armor Gal Assault.

Both take 600 damage.

Gal assault loses all of its shields, and only has 183 armor left. Armor repairs immediately and regens fully in 19s. Shield begin rep in 10.7s, and fully heal in 9s. In 19.7s, the Gal assault has fully healed itself from 600 damage

Cal Assault loses all of its shields, and has 196 armor left. Armor doesn't repair at all, so it waits for shields. It is running dual regulators (complex) but has no extra regen due to having to run 4x extenders to hit the same eHP. Regen starts after 9.27s and shields will fully rep in 14 seconds afterwards. In 23.27s the Cal assault will have healed only 553 damage. The last 47 health cannot be repaired without an external source.


This is the problem when you have Armor rep that fast. Armor tank does regen better, and can still run damage mods in its high slots.

EDIT: Just noticed that this was talking about scouts. Well, my data is still relevant for assaults as well.

I personally think they should not have an inherent armor rep "why you dip-****" you ask well simple it has more low slots than the Amarr heavy making it the better "ARMOR TANKER" with stacked complex plates. But it's just my opinion, you may now proceed to cleverly rip my post apart and poop on it :)

Complex extenders add 7% to the DEPLETED recharge delay.
So first:
A. Two regulators do more than cover 4x complex extenders
B. Try that same test without losing all the shields.

And finally, Caldari are getting a massive boost in recharge speed, AND the delays are getting much shorter.
So your comparison is.. pretty damn bad.

But stack on two complex reppers and two complex Plates: ~20 hp/s CONSTANT armor rep with around 560 armor. Combine with your 223 buffer shield, and you have one tough Gal Assault.

Comparison: Cal Assault with 553 shields and 243 armor vs. 223 Shield and 560 armor Gal Assault.

Both take 600 damage.

Gal assault loses all of its shields, and only has 183 armor left. Armor repairs immediately and regens fully in 19s. Shield begin rep in 10.7s, and fully heal in 9s. In 19.7s, the Gal assault has fully healed itself from 600 damage

Cal Assault loses all of its shields, and has 196 armor left. Armor doesn't repair at all, so it waits for shields. It is running dual regulators (complex) but has no extra regen due to having to run 4x extenders to hit the same eHP. Regen starts after 9.27s and shields will fully rep in 14 seconds afterwards. In 23.27s the Cal assault will have healed only 553 damage. The last 47 health cannot be repaired without an external source.


This is the problem when you have Armor rep that fast. Armor tank does regen better, and can still run damage mods in its high slots.

EDIT: Just noticed that this was talking about scouts. Well, my data is still relevant for assaults as well.

If u wana be racially correct shouldn't they just have an effectivness bonus to armor repairers?

Why does the scout have +3 while the heavy has +1? the Gal Heavy is supposed to be the most flexible armor suit in the game while the scout suit has much less need for a high rep speed.