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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.13 13:03:00 -
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Raylon Mortien wrote:Still think a tank should require more than one operator.
16 infantry v 16 infantry = 16 v 16
A Madrugar has 8 times the armor of a proto heavy and a proto blaster deals 47 times the damage of a proto HMG.
Well wrong already
My basic proto heavy with 3 low slots gives me just over 1k armor + 600 shield, now a proto sentinal can give 1.2k armor with 600 shield
Maddy has 4k armor
So its only 4 times a basic proto heavy or 3 sentinals and a bit
As for AV why cant the same 2-3 guys kill every tank? why do we need more AV groups? why cant the AV concentrate fire on the same target? do we need a ritalin mod?
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:05:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Tankers are really hurting their credibility, especially the veteran ones who can't acknowledge how OP tanks are in pub match setting.
They are not OP in a PC match where you can control the variables of your own team. But in a pub match the odds are against you that you'll be able to control the infantry and deal with the tanks.
It's really one or the other and sometimes neither depending on the quality of your blueberries. Call me crazy but I don't think two or three tanks in a pub match of an FPS should be able to completely dictate a battle.
I've seen ONE dude able to maul infantry in a PC match. There are probably many more, but the one that stood out to me is Legend. Everyone else it doing tank on tank and tank vs dropship warfare.
Thats all i care about that my tank is no longer meh in PC
Pubs is pub namely because lolmatchmaking which since the hotfix has become alot better and has given more even sided games where it could go either way and also where i get to fight other tanks because the other side also bring out tanks so tanks do there things and infantry do theres
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:23:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Tankers are really hurting their credibility, especially the veteran ones who can't acknowledge how OP tanks are in pub match setting.
They are not OP in a PC match where you can control the variables of your own team. But in a pub match the odds are against you that you'll be able to control the infantry and deal with the tanks.
It's really one or the other and sometimes neither depending on the quality of your blueberries. Call me crazy but I don't think two or three tanks in a pub match of an FPS should be able to completely dictate a battle.
I've seen ONE dude able to maul infantry in a PC match. There are probably many more, but the one that stood out to me is Legend. Everyone else it doing tank on tank and tank vs dropship warfare. Thats all i care about that my tank is no longer meh in PC Pubs is pub namely because lolmatchmaking which since the hotfix has become alot better and has given more even sided games where it could go either way and also where i get to fight other tanks because the other side also bring out tanks so tanks do there things and infantry do theres That's what sucks about this. In PC it's just right. But these fools breaking out there win button in pubs with a majority of people unable and/or unwilling (because of cost) to deal with it WILL lead to tanks getting nerfed. AND because the vast majority of people don't participate in PC, they don't care.
But its backwards thinking
PC and pubs will always be seperate but you cant nerf things that are working well in 1 mode because of another
But you cant stop players using what they are skilled into in pubs, you can limit it to an extent but you would have to limit everything
Acedemy needs to be extended to like 100k WP or something to protect new players and even have a basic lobby where only basic items can be used
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.13 18:04:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Tankers are really hurting their credibility, especially the veteran ones who can't acknowledge how OP tanks are in pub match setting.
They are not OP in a PC match where you can control the variables of your own team. But in a pub match the odds are against you that you'll be able to control the infantry and deal with the tanks.
It's really one or the other and sometimes neither depending on the quality of your blueberries. Call me crazy but I don't think two or three tanks in a pub match of an FPS should be able to completely dictate a battle.
I've seen ONE dude able to maul infantry in a PC match. There are probably many more, but the one that stood out to me is Legend. Everyone else it doing tank on tank and tank vs dropship warfare. Thats all i care about that my tank is no longer meh in PC Pubs is pub namely because lolmatchmaking which since the hotfix has become alot better and has given more even sided games where it could go either way and also where i get to fight other tanks because the other side also bring out tanks so tanks do there things and infantry do theres That's what sucks about this. In PC it's just right. But these fools breaking out there win button in pubs with a majority of people unable and/or unwilling (because of cost) to deal with it WILL lead to tanks getting nerfed. AND because the vast majority of people don't participate in PC, they don't care. But its backwards thinking PC and pubs will always be seperate but you cant nerf things that are working well in 1 mode because of another But you cant stop players using what they are skilled into in pubs, you can limit it to an extent but you would have to limit everything Acedemy needs to be extended to like 100k WP or something to protect new players and even have a basic lobby where only basic items can be used I agree with you, and I feel sorry for CCP for having to find a way to make vehicles work in pubs and in PC. But what we have right now is killing pubs. At least it's killing lots of pub matches, to me in a worse way than a squad rolling through protostomping.
Not for me
In infantry compounds proto stomps hurt alot more than a tank because inside objectives the tank is useless but also i do see the tank as a counter to proto stomps
Before the vehicle changes proto stomping was everywhere and still is to an extent, the new vehicles came and even tho they are MLT tanks they can effectively help keep down a proto stomp where as before you could do nothing but die
Atm now with that matchmaking hotfix ive been having some really fun and more balanced games
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2014.02.13 18:07:00 -
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CaveCav wrote:And what about stomping through "Proto-Tank Spamming"?
Proto tank doesnt exist
They are afraid of giving us adv/proto hulls with more CPU/PG and slot layout
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.13 18:40:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:CaveCav wrote:And what about stomping through "Proto-Tank Spamming"? Proto tank doesnt exist They are afraid of giving us adv/proto hulls with more CPU/PG and slot layout you really think you are something. You only have the things CCP gave you. You are good because of someone elses mistake. Yet you brag, every chance you get. Pathetic
Are you about to cry?
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:08:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:
spkrs left nut is getting cold could move you mouth over to that one.
Its getting cold?
It sounds like you are already on it since you seem to know how cold it is
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