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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:21:00 -
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I can strafe using the ps3 controller, but some people bounce of walls and still able to shoot me. How do they do it? are they using k/m? Maybe I should switch to k/m....... |
Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
842
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:25:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I can strafe using the ps3 controller, but some people bounce of walls and still able to shoot me. How do they do it? are they using k/m? Maybe I should switch to k/m....... No, you shouldn't. DS3 is better at pretty much everything except sniping at the moment. Perhaps you should turn on Aim Assist.
Good Advice
Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:29:00 -
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You should have replicated the floor and then rose up to shock and nova knife them
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:30:00 -
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stamina
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:38:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I can strafe using the ps3 controller, but some people bounce of walls and still able to shoot me. How do they do it? are they using k/m? Maybe I should switch to k/m....... No, you shouldn't. DS3 is better at pretty much everything except sniping at the moment. Perhaps you should turn on Aim Assist. ^^^This. As someone who prefers native KB/M support over DS3 mouse emulation(FragFX, XIM, Aimon, Etc..). I have given up on using a real mouse(RAT7) in this game, & have broken out my 5 year old AimonPS. My average KDR has more than doubled since the switch. Even though it doesn't quite "feel" right compared to native mouse input, it is simply more effective. I will admit that if my RAT7 didn't malfunction on me, I may not have even realize how bad the KB/M support is Dust514. But I won't even consider going back until they give us custom key bindings. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:15:00 -
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Spray and pray ... spray and pray. It cheapens game play does it not ..??.. and seems more accurate than aiming at times.
It would actually be nice if in gun battles one would have to account for changes in positioning , distance and terrain but that's too much like right.
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:22:00 -
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practice |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:37:00 -
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The art of pray and spray cannot be taught. You will simply develop it when you need it most.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:35:00 -
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Closed beta vets, most likely. Back in those days, strafing and bunny hopping was literally the only thing that mattered to survive.
"Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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snazzbear
PiZzA DuDeS
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:42:00 -
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play unreal tournament and come back here. Honestly how often do you ADS? |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:50:00 -
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This thread explains it: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=139357
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:53:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:practice
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:54:00 -
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snazzbear wrote:play unreal tournament and come back here. Honestly how often do you ADS?
About 90%. You?
// Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:54:00 -
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Back before aim assist, keyboard and mouse used to be king. You could jump, strafe left and right faster than any DS3 user, and have perfect aim. Now, it is highly outclassed by aim assist on DS3.
> GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥
-Oscar Wilde
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
251
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:56:00 -
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Legs. |
Debacle Nano
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
651
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:57:00 -
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Usually the X button.
Closed beta anyone?
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neausea 1987
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
18
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:06:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:practice its not that hard
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ what i do to proto suit users
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:06:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I can strafe using the ps3 controller, but some people bounce of walls and still able to shoot me. How do they do it? are they using k/m? Maybe I should switch to k/m.......
I was considering do that as well actually, just so I could have the strafe advantage. Given that I think I would win a **** ton more gun fights.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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snazzbear
PiZzA DuDeS
24
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:12:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:snazzbear wrote:play unreal tournament and come back here. Honestly how often do you ADS? About 90%. You?
For the most part I just use hip fire. Works well enough with an AR, and well most weapons. cept rails. I wouldn't say try this with RRs |
Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
457
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:16:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I can strafe using the ps3 controller, but some people bounce of walls and still able to shoot me. How do they do it? are they using k/m? Maybe I should switch to k/m....... No, you shouldn't. KBM is severely handicapped at pretty much everything except sniping at the moment. Perhaps you should turn on the aimbot. FTFY |
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noobsniper the 2nd
POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire
145
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:34:00 -
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Learn to aim pal its pretty easy u just gotta move the right stick
just call me scumbag noob
MAG vet raven ftw
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
351
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:38:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I can strafe using the ps3 controller, but some people bounce of walls and still able to shoot me. How do they do it? are they using k/m? Maybe I should switch to k/m....... It's like any FPS on any system/PC ever. Jump, strafe and shoot. I do it all the time. My favorite is jumping off a building and laying waste to the enemies below me before I hit the ground. |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising
610
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:40:00 -
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Well trust me aiming with KB/M right now is hard work. It feels like someone has took your mouse and done terrible hideous things to it.
And all of this talk that KB/M can strafe faster is total nonsense. Aim Assist is the main thing keeping the game the way it is.
I would love to see AA turned down further or even just out right removed to be honest. Go back to people actually having to aim again. (Oh the horror, aiming for yourself in an FPS game... I know its shocking) |
Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:49:00 -
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snazzbear wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:snazzbear wrote:play unreal tournament and come back here. Honestly how often do you ADS? About 90%. You? For the most part I just use hip fire. Works well enough with an AR, and well most weapons. cept rails. I wouldn't say try this with RRs
HAH. I've killed people at 30m+ with just RR hipfire. Aim assist for hip fire is absolutely magical. Try it out some time, you'll be shocked. ADS is overrated inside the 50m range, especially given how much ADS reduces your all-important strafe speed. |
snazzbear
PiZzA DuDeS
24
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:52:00 -
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Didn't say it wasn't possible, I just wouldn't recommend actively doing it :p
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:55:00 -
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If anyone thinks that kb/m is why this happens, you only need to try playing with kb/m to see that it's pretty much like this: http://a.gifb.in/1232550737_predator%20duck%20hunt1.gif |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2904
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Posted - 2014.02.12 04:55:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The art of pray and spray cannot be taught. You will simply develop it when you need it most.
I wouldn't call it "Spray and Pray", but......
It's just good FPS skill to know when and when not to ADS.
Sometimes, firing from the hip is a better solution than ADS'ing (Even if you waste more bullets).
At the same time, you gotta know when to ADS as well.
It just comes with practice and experience.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
765
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:11:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Back before aim assist, keyboard and mouse used to be king. You could jump, strafe left and right faster than any DS3 user, and have perfect aim. Now, it is highly outclassed by aim assist on DS3.
Aim assist has little to do with kb/m not being king. After Uprising hit kb/m went to complete sh!t; it literally felt like something was pushing my aim away from the people I was trying to shoot like two magnets with the same polarization and it was nearly impossible to select anything on the radial menu that wasn't directly up, right, or down. I use it after every update and after every update it's still sh!tty.
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
514
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Posted - 2014.02.12 06:16:00 -
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QFT. As a long-time PC FPS player, I would punch a kitten in the face for raw mouse input in Dust. Until then, DS3 and DS3 only. |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
196
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:33:00 -
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People mention this in terms of AA and 'spray and pray'...I and many others I'm sure do this with shotguns. It's usually the best way to finish a target/stay alive when they are not subject to OHK due to tanking (imo).
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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