DUST Search - Sniper Rifle Tagging

Summ Dude wrote:

I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned here and there around the forms, but searching didn't turn up anything specific, so here goes. I think a very interesting feature to add to Sniper Rifles would be the ability to tag enemies. So basically when you have an enemy in your sights, you can press some secondary fire button (probably L2) to tag the enemy, effectively lighting him up like an active scanner would. Only let the tags last significantly longer than a scanner would, but balance this by only giving the sniper a handful of active tags that he can have available at one time (say maybe 3-6). Potentially increase number of active tags with gear level (although I know everyone rails against creating a bigger gap between STD and PRO) and/or add a skill to the SR to increase active tags available.

I believe this would help give snipers an actual team-based role on the battlefield. And giving them WP for the intel assists would actually encourage them to actively help out their squad, so we have less snipers just sitting in one place the whole match trying to do nothing but rack up kills.

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Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 191	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:42:00 - [1] - Quote I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned here and there around the forms, but searching didn't turn up anything specific, so here goes. I think a very interesting feature to add to Sniper Rifles would be the ability to tag enemies. So basically when you have an enemy in your sights, you can press some secondary fire button (probably L2) to tag the enemy, effectively lighting him up like an active scanner would. Only let the tags last significantly longer than a scanner would, but balance this by only giving the sniper a handful of active tags that he can have available at one time (say maybe 3-6). Potentially increase number of active tags with gear level (although I know everyone rails against creating a bigger gap between STD and PRO) and/or add a skill to the SR to increase active tags available. I believe this would help give snipers an actual team-based role on the battlefield. And giving them WP for the intel assists would actually encourage them to actively help out their squad, so we have less snipers just sitting in one place the whole match trying to do nothing but rack up kills. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Tyjus Vacca Valor Coalition 188	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote +1
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4579	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:47:00 - [3] - Quote Yes. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1444	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:50:00 - [4] - Quote This is definitely something I'd like to see. When sniping, I've often offered intel to my squad, but sometimes it's a bit harder to convey it over voice. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 200	Posted - 2014.02.12 07:25:00 - [5] - Quote Bump. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 820	Posted - 2014.02.12 07:36:00 - [6] - Quote I like the general idea My only problem is that currently the game mechanic is: If your actively scanned - the enemy is a fair distance away but at least your told your highlighted. Giving you the option to back off / search for the scanner. If your passively scanned - your not told about it but the enemy is close by, so your own suit scanner has a chance of picking him up as well. Also the changes to the scanner are specifically to prevent an enemy scanning you indefinitely. I know there is general LOS issues but this mechanic will allow permascanning to continue, but again without the warning. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3193	Posted - 2014.02.12 07:48:00 - [7] - Quote lol the search for sniper relevance continues...more at 11 Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 201	Posted - 2014.02.12 08:03:00 - [8] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: I like the general idea My only problem is that currently the game mechanic is: If your actively scanned - the enemy is a fair distance away but at least your told your highlighted. Giving you the option to back off / search for the scanner. If your passively scanned - your not told about it but the enemy is close by, so your own suit scanner has a chance of picking him up as well. Also the changes to the scanner are specifically to prevent an enemy scanning you indefinitely. I know there is general LOS issues but this mechanic will allow permascanning to continue, but again without the warning. I hadn't exactly thought about the warning mechanic, but I don't see why this couldn't also just give them same message. Seems pretty fair, given the effective range it would work at. In regards to how long the scans last, I do believe they should last longer than Active Scanner scans. But like I said, this would be balanced by being able to tag far less people at a time than Active Scanners. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1967	Posted - 2014.02.12 08:20:00 - [9] - Quote well you can tag people but you have to be squad lead "But we have been blessed"
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2184	Posted - 2014.02.12 08:31:00 - [10] - Quote I like the idea in general but think it should be opened up a little - all players should get some sort of tagging ability, whether sniper, scout, AV, whatever. You can tag one or two players at a time but that tag only remains as long as you maintain line of sight on the target, so it would not be as OP as active scanning. Perhaps certain things like snipers and scouts give a buff to the number of tags you can have active and/or the length of time the tag lasts after losing LOS? Then sniper scouts would suddenly become really useful - oh yes I think the registry lads will like this! Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts

Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1131	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:15:00 - [11] - Quote This would be nice... but you'd have to fix the rendering issues first. The Z-fighting/culling issues around Surface Installations and mountainous terrain being the biggest thing needed to achieve something like this. It really doesn't matter if you can tag someone... when no body renders in the area you are looking in. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1131	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:17:00 - [12] - Quote Django Quik wrote: I like the idea in general but think it should be opened up a little - all players should get some sort of tagging ability, whether sniper, scout, AV, whatever. You can tag one or two players at a time but that tag only remains as long as you maintain line of sight on the target, so it would not be as OP as active scanning. Perhaps certain things like snipers and scouts give a buff to the number of tags you can have active and/or the length of time the tag lasts after losing LOS? Then sniper scouts would suddenly become really useful - oh yes I think the registry lads will like this! Bad Idea. This would just revert us back to before 1.4 where everyone could see anyone because of shared team vision. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1806	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:21:00 - [13] - Quote sniper irfle tagging has been mentioned (by me) in literally every single thread complaining about sniper rifles since beta. general idea was to nerf scanners, and let snipers have basically the same effect we have now. then you can have various sniper rifles with various lengths of tag time, i.e the tactical rifle would tag longer then the charged.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 207	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:54:00 - [14] - Quote calisk galern wrote: sniper irfle tagging has been mentioned (by me) in literally every single thread complaining about sniper rifles since beta. general idea was to nerf scanners, and let snipers have basically the same effect we have now. then you can have various sniper rifles with various lengths of tag time, i.e the tactical rifle would tag longer then the charged. Variant SRs that have more and/or longer-lasting tags available would definitely be a reasonable thing to have. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4446	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:52:00 - [15] - Quote 2 things: 1. Any enemy in the crosshairs of a Sniper Rifle should be marked on TacNet for everyone on the Sniper's team as long as the Sniper is scoped in on the target and has high enough Scan Precision to pick up the enemy. 2. Scouts should also light up enemies when they're scoped in with the target in the crosshairs, but only within a limited range, where Sniper Rifles should have a much more generous range limit. 3. Any enemy lit up on the TacNet should remain visible after being lit up for a period of time based on their Scan Profile. These would encourage Snipers to work as more of a team asset rather than a purely solo role, as well as buffing Scout Snipers in particular (a role CCP keep trying to promote without really doing anything to support it) and adding another layer of usefulness to both Profile Dampeners AND Precision Amplifiers.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 211	Posted - 2014.02.13 09:28:00 - [16] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: 2 things: 1. Any enemy in the crosshairs of a Sniper Rifle should be marked on TacNet for everyone on the Sniper's team as long as the Sniper is scoped in on the target and has high enough Scan Precision to pick up the enemy. 2. Scouts should also light up enemies when they're scoped in with the target in the crosshairs, but only within a limited range, where Sniper Rifles should have a much more generous range limit. 3. Any enemy lit up on the TacNet should remain visible after being lit up for a period of time based on their Scan Profile. These would encourage Snipers to work as more of a team asset rather than a purely solo role, as well as buffing Scout Snipers in particular (a role CCP keep trying to promote without really doing anything to support it) and adding another layer of usefulness to both Profile Dampeners AND Precision Amplifiers. Ahem.....cough....that was three things... Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4447	Posted - 2014.02.13 09:30:00 - [17] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: 2 things: 1. Any enemy in the crosshairs of a Sniper Rifle should be marked on TacNet for everyone on the Sniper's team as long as the Sniper is scoped in on the target and has high enough Scan Precision to pick up the enemy. 2. Scouts should also light up enemies when they're scoped in with the target in the crosshairs, but only within a limited range, where Sniper Rifles should have a much more generous range limit. 3. Any enemy lit up on the TacNet should remain visible after being lit up for a period of time based on their Scan Profile. These would encourage Snipers to work as more of a team asset rather than a purely solo role, as well as buffing Scout Snipers in particular (a role CCP keep trying to promote without really doing anything to support it) and adding another layer of usefulness to both Profile Dampeners AND Precision Amplifiers. Ahem.....cough....that was three things... Wow that's a bad typo... I'm awesome. Thanks for spotting that one. Will be fixed as soon as I find my post again to edit it.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 350	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:11:00 - [18] - Quote Random bump. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12130	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:16:00 - [19] - Quote +1. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Galthur Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 435	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:27:00 - [20] - Quote I would like to see this on a new racial sniper as a alt feature similar to the how ScR has charged shots. What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.

Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 81	Posted - 2014.04.08 21:55:00 - [21] - Quote Would help alot with sniper to squad communication No proto in public matches!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThWFhoB8kS8&feature=youtu.be
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 16	Posted - 2014.04.09 14:31:00 - [22] - Quote REALLY like this idea. +1, could even be auto when spotted by a sniper,( but I appreciate this would probably work better and not be op.)
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 367	Posted - 2014.04.09 19:19:00 - [23] - Quote Galthur wrote: I would like to see this on a new racial sniper as a alt feature similar to the how ScR has charged shots. Why exactly? I don't really see snipers getting crazy amounts of WP as it is right now. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 491	Posted - 2014.06.22 13:43:00 - [24] - Quote Let's bump this and get Rattati's/Logibro's attention.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 106	Posted - 2014.06.22 14:20:00 - [25] - Quote Bump
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 376	Posted - 2014.06.23 02:19:00 - [26] - Quote Uh, thanks guys. I thought it was a good idea anyway. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Yeeeuuuupppp 363	Posted - 2014.06.23 03:45:00 - [27] - Quote Like spotting in battle field. +1. Also, I want a bolt acTion sniper so I don't have to sit in the red line or on a tower to snipe.. wanna quick scope some peeps Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 239	Posted - 2014.06.23 04:04:00 - [28] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned here and there around the forms, but searching didn't turn up anything specific, so here goes. I think a very interesting feature to add to Sniper Rifles would be the ability to tag enemies. So basically when you have an enemy in your sights, you can press some secondary fire button (probably L2) to tag the enemy, effectively lighting him up like an active scanner would. Only let the tags last significantly longer than a scanner would, but balance this by only giving the sniper a handful of active tags that he can have available at one time (say maybe 3-6). Potentially increase number of active tags with gear level (although I know everyone rails against creating a bigger gap between STD and PRO) and/or add a skill to the SR to increase active tags available. I believe this would help give snipers an actual team-based role on the battlefield. And giving them WP for the intel assists would actually encourage them to actively help out their squad, so we have less snipers just sitting in one place the whole match trying to do nothing but rack up kills. Yep, mentioned many times. Once or twice by yours truly (different character). THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 153	Posted - 2014.06.23 04:27:00 - [29] - Quote if you can tag them you can shoot them bad idea
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 381	Posted - 2014.06.23 18:28:00 - [30] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: if you can tag them you can shoot them bad idea Um, why? Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.



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