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I was running adv Minmatar assault

With a pro smg

and cmplx sidearm dmg mods

and he dropped me in under a second

started shooting him

he turned around

and dropped me in under a second

done for tonight

No RR can do 776 damage in <1 second, especially with spool-up time. Not saying it isn't overpowered right now (1.8 nerfbat confirmed), but your anecdote is not plausible. If you started shooting first, you have only yourself to blame for missing, because there's no way the events could have transpired as you describe them. Please don't post such gross exaggerations.

Lynn: I've read your post three times and absolutely can't figure out what you mean. Why are low recoil weapons hard to use in CQC? Why should low ROF = low accuracy?

Ok fine if you wanna get all ******* technical
A RR with NO damage mods or skills in prof, does 423 damage per second (rof / 60) x 55 dmg = 423dps
776 / 423 = 1.8 seconds
Thats WITHOUT any damage increases that could have been present

Like it makes a huge ******* difference do some math before you trash my post

There's really nothing wrong with rail rifles. Damage mods yes, the rifle itself is fine especially compared to the assault combat rifle. But rr will be overnerfed soon enough.

Let's day you miss .5 seconds of fire- that would be 3.5 shots of Gal Ar, or 114 damage.
If you miss .5 seconds of Rr that's about 2 shots, 105 damage.
The thing though is the RR has the same Damage per clip, so it takes longer to use that clip. Thus meaning for that second you lose the same amount of Dps, but you're missing much less of your total clip.
Also you could just sweep fire it, and hit the 6 shots necessary to drop any frame save heavies.

So, when you count in the 0.25 seconds of spool-up time, you had 2.05 seconds (if your opponent had perfect accuracy) AFTER he turned around to kill him with a damage-modded proto SMG. Assuming you were using a Six Kin SMG with a single complex damage mod, you were putting out 423.5 damage per second. While the RR is certainly OP, you definitely could have won that one. You can't blame this one on the gun.

Yes, but the point is that there should have been NO WAY for me to lose that engagement. Even if I miss half my shots I should still have won that because he is using a weapon optimized for mid-long range (77m) and i'm using one optimized for close range ( 20 - 1 m)
It shouldnt have been "could have won", it should have been "I got inside this guys range and now I shall proceed to destroy him"

Ok fine if you wanna get all ******* technical
A RR with NO damage mods or skills in prof, does 423 damage per second (rof / 60) x 55 dmg = 423dps
776 / 423 = 1.8 seconds
Thats WITHOUT any damage increases that could have been present

Like it makes a huge ******* difference do some math before you trash my post

There's really nothing wrong with rail rifles. Damage mods yes, the rifle itself is fine especially compared to the assault combat rifle. But rr will be overnerfed soon enough.