DUST Search - Queue-syncing: make it impossible

Awry Barux wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

Cynicisim isn't the answer for if you want to be competitive in this game, you have to swallow some of your pride and be honest with yourself and the game.

This game has players who come from FPS titles that involved teamwork and strategy. This is not your ordinary, "I've played only Halo, COD and BF" crowd. Not making any implications towards you but it helps that you understand the type of game and playerbase you're dealing with.

You're playing with guys who played MAG, CS:GO, Rainbow 6 and Armored Core...all four games where teamwork, battleplans and smart strategy is a necessity to win or face with shameful defeat.

Of course it sounds repetitive but you need to find friends and other mercs to aid you in battle. These opportunities that you face these organized opponents are moments where you can learn new strategies and you can incorporate it into your own.

That's why I responded in the fashion that I did. Sometimes it just throws me for a loop that some folks don't instantly grab that concept about Dust and resist it. It's one of things that make Dust what it is.

So they stomped you. You have an opportunity to return the favor. Will you just complain? Or will you learn from the situation, thus making you a stronger and smarter merc? I hope for the latter.

I like those parts of Dust- there's a reason I'm playing Dust and not COD. I spent years playing CS 1.6 and Source. For the record, I recently joined a corp (New Eden Blades of the Azure) on my more-coherently-built alt, for precisely the reasons you are describing. I would happily welcome a team deploy mode to better facilitate fun and balanced matches.

However, none of that makes public contract queue-syncing okay. Queue-syncing is significantly different than the glorious teamwork-based game you're describing. Due to the way Dust's matchmaking apparently works, a queue-synced team is practically guaranteed NOT to face any sort of organized resistance. It's ridiculous to be able to create a team-deploy situation when the other team is all but guaranteed to NOT have team-deployed, and that's exactly what's going on when corporations queue-sync public contracts. I don't understand why you're advocating for queue-syncing... wouldn't you rather fight a real opponent?


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Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3155	Posted - 2014.02.11 04:32:00 - [1] - Quote Q sync has no place in pub contracts? It's breaks the core concept of any matchmaking?? It exacerbates an already awful NPE???? If you want to play with a full corp team, take it elsewhere????? I'm glad I don't visit these forums daily...between threads like this and the upcoming RR nerf, it's been a chore to read some ideas around here. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3157	Posted - 2014.02.11 04:41:00 - [2] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Team Sync (Deploy? Whatever) is coming. Are you ready? I believe the tear ducts are not... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3158	Posted - 2014.02.11 04:57:00 - [3] - Quote Cynicisim isn't the answer for if you want to be competitive in this game, you have to swallow some of your pride and be honest with yourself and the game. This game has players who come from FPS titles that involved teamwork and strategy. This is not your ordinary, "I've played only Halo, COD and BF" crowd. Not making any implications towards you but it helps that you understand the type of game and playerbase you're dealing with. You're playing with guys who played MAG, CS:GO, Rainbow 6 and Armored Core...all four games where teamwork, battleplans and smart strategy is a necessity to win or face with shameful defeat. Of course it sounds repetitive but you need to find friends and other mercs to aid you in battle. These opportunities that you face these organized opponents are moments where you can learn new strategies and you can incorporate it into your own. That's why I responded in the fashion that I did. Sometimes it just throws me for a loop that some folks don't instantly grab that concept about Dust and resist it. It's one of things that make Dust what it is. So they stomped you. You have an opportunity to return the favor. Will you just complain? Or will you learn from the situation, thus making you a stronger and smarter merc? I hope for the latter. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3161	Posted - 2014.02.11 05:19:00 - [4] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Cynicisim isn't the answer for if you want to be competitive in this game, you have to swallow some of your pride and be honest with yourself and the game. This game has players who come from FPS titles that involved teamwork and strategy. This is not your ordinary, "I've played only Halo, COD and BF" crowd. Not making any implications towards you but it helps that you understand the type of game and playerbase you're dealing with. You're playing with guys who played MAG, CS:GO, Rainbow 6 and Armored Core...all four games where teamwork, battleplans and smart strategy is a necessity to win or face with shameful defeat. Of course it sounds repetitive but you need to find friends and other mercs to aid you in battle. These opportunities that you face these organized opponents are moments where you can learn new strategies and you can incorporate it into your own. That's why I responded in the fashion that I did. Sometimes it just throws me for a loop that some folks don't instantly grab that concept about Dust and resist it. It's one of things that make Dust what it is. So they stomped you. You have an opportunity to return the favor. Will you just complain? Or will you learn from the situation, thus making you a stronger and smarter merc? I hope for the latter. I like those parts of Dust- there's a reason I'm playing Dust and not COD. I spent years playing CS 1.6 and Source. For the record, I recently joined a corp (New Eden Blades of the Azure) on my more-coherently-built alt, for precisely the reasons you are describing. I would happily welcome a team deploy mode to better facilitate fun and balanced matches. However, none of that makes public contract queue-syncing okay. Queue-syncing is significantly different than the glorious teamwork-based game you're describing. Due to the way Dust's matchmaking apparently works, a queue-synced team is practically guaranteed NOT to face any sort of organized resistance. It's ridiculous to be able to create a team-deploy situation when the other team is all but guaranteed to NOT have team-deployed, and that's exactly what's going on when corporations queue-sync public contracts. I don't understand why you're advocating for queue-syncing... wouldn't you rather fight a real opponent? So basically public contracts should be renamed as private contracts... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]