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![BAD FURRY BAD FURRY](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:53:00 -
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THIS will FIX EVERYTHING !!! lol ok not everything .... but at lest we can all sleep sound at not not having to here MY KDR is better then YOUR KDR !!
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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ThePlayerkyle13
PlayerArmy Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:57:00 -
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Didn't Naughty Dog do the same with Unchanted Online? & i wonder if it made people be Objective focused rather than becoming a mass murder. If you get my meaning. :)
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
452
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:00:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Didn't Naughty Dog do the same with Unchanted Online? & i wonder if it made people be Objective focused rather than becoming a mass murder. If you get my meaning. :)
Naughty Dog is still alive ???
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:03:00 -
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NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll never get rid of KDR; by god, I'll keep track of everyone's by paper & pen if I have to... I will... you just watch me!.... yeah.
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![Mauren NOON Mauren NOON](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:06:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:THIS will FIX EVERYTHING !!! lol ok not everything .... but at lest we can all sleep sound at not not having to here MY KDR is better then YOUR KDR !! I agree whole heartedly. alot of the proto stompers will be,less inclined to do so.and that's why a lot of COD fanboys even play this game....to flaunt KDR and show force in proto +1 good sir
Scr and commando enthusiast.
ARC Commander
"A closed mouth gathers no foot"
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:08:00 -
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It'll never happen CCP don't want to turn anyone away from the game and seeing as there are quite a few proto stomping KDR flaunting idiots about they will never do it, never! |
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:08:00 -
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Instead of getting rid of KDR just add more stats, like objects hacked, virus uploads stopped, etc |
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:11:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:It'll never happen CCP don't want to turn anyone away from the game and seeing as there are quite a few proto stomping KDR flaunting idiots about they will never do it, never!
there's more to gain the lost here !
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:11:00 -
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Nah, just add ISK efficacy.
Value of items destroyed / Value of items lost
Use the ISK value of similar tier items for AUR item value.
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
454
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:13:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Nah, just add ISK efficacy.
Value of items destroyed / Value of items lost
Use the ISK value of similar tier items for AUR item value.
OMG !! CCP GIVE THIS GUY 80,000 AUR NOW!!! HE,s ON TO SOMETHING !!! :D
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:17:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:THIS will FIX EVERYTHING !!! lol ok not everything .... but at lest we can all sleep sound at not not having to here MY KDR is better then YOUR KDR !! The kdr stat has been a travesty since the beginning, but honestly the problem isn't the stat but the problem is all of the geniuses that believe in it's importance. |
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:18:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Nah, just add ISK efficacy.
Value of items destroyed / Value of items lost
Use the ISK value of similar tier items for AUR item value.
Pretty much this...
Not that it is a bad thing...
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Xer0 Zexeroth
Raskil Militia
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:20:00 -
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Not trying to (re)state the obvious or previously said but this will get rid of A LOT of try-hards trying to buff K/D. But they really will probably do one of two things:
1. Quit because they have no souls and all they care about is K/D
2. Continue playing whilst taking their lack of K/D and RL frustration out on pub games...
Maybe... Just maybe... they could become normal players... I don't know, I'm not a doctor.
Seasoned Dropship Pilot waiting for Jets and Hoverbikes...
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
456
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:23:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Instead of getting rid of KDR just add more stats, like objects hacked, virus uploads stopped, etc no kdr must go!
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:24:00 -
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Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
508
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:29:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same.
New Eden is not so different than any other place. All the tough guys gang up and pick on the little guys. Then they brag and pat each others bottoms, gg man. making them fight each other would be too funny.
Who wants some?
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![Mauren NOON Mauren NOON](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:31:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same. Lol then there will be matches full of only tankers
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A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life...
"The only thing to fear is fear itself"
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:32:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same. New Eden is not so different than any other place. All the tough guys gang up and pick on the little guys. Then they brag and pat each others bottoms, gg man. making them fight each other would be too funny.
Oh, and the sheer inability to play anyone less trollish than yourself would absolutely make them cry real tears. And I hear that tears are somewhat desirable around here.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2650
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:33:00 -
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Yes, get rid of the k/d padders.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:35:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:THIS will FIX EVERYTHING !!! lol ok not everything .... but at lest we can all sleep sound at not not having to here MY KDR is better then YOUR KDR !!
KDR is overrated. Still can't wrap my head around how much people care for it?? It's just a meaningless statistic.
Having said that, I finally checked my own KDR for the first time EVER yesterday. A nice healthy 3.0 or something like that (see how meaningless it is).
All that really matter is that ISK and that Victory screen, KDR be damned.
Nuff Said
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:38:00 -
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That which gets measured gets attention.
Stats have a profound effect on the play of the game and are a way for the developer to signal how they want the game played.
Prominently display KDR and you promote KDR based play. Bury the stat and promote ISK efficiency in its place and you promote playing well with the cheapest gear. Suddenly the proto stompers show up at the bottom of the listing if they die a few times. Combine ISK efficiency with WP and you see who can help achieve victory with the least cost.
Either CCP is unaware of the power of measurement, which seems odd given their obsession with numbers, or they just don't care to promote their values with in-game stats. |
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:46:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141476
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Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Thumb Green wrote:NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll never get rid of KDR; by god, I'll keep track of everyone's by paper & pen if I have to... I will... you just watch me!.... yeah.
Lol. You're a KDR crack head aren't you? I highly recommend a KDR therapist to help you calm those addictions ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:55:00 -
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Mauren NOON wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same. Lol then there will be matches full of only tankers
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:06:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same.
By the way, this is the removal of KDR for all intents.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:10:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Better yet, matchmaking by KDR. Once all the high KDRs are grouped into a tight little wad fighting each other with their padding tactics, 90% of them will get creamed down the food chain, and the other 10% will quit from sheer boredom. That might break closer to 50/50, but the net result will be the same. By the way, this is the removal of KDR for all intents. Yes !
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:11:00 -
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No+¦o+¦+ìo+¦+¦o+¦+++ô!!!!
How am I supposed to measure my epeen without KDR? |
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:14:00 -
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Even better would be a war point per death ratio/ a war point per game ratio, each mode having a separate statistic.
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:15:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:No+¦o+¦+ìo+¦+¦o+¦+++ô!!!!
How am I supposed to measure my epeen without KDR?
Have you tried a digital micrometer?
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:16:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Even better would be a war point per death ratio/ a war point per game ratio, each mode having a separate statistic.
I'd still match by KDR first, but as a second statistical filter, this is a great idea.
Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
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