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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1052
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Posted - 2014.02.09 22:30:00 -
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I've been curious lately, about the various beliefs and culture New Eden holds, and how they reflect on us clone soldiers. The Caldari have the various Winds, Amarr have the Scriptures and their Faith, Intaki have the Ida and so on and so forth. What I am asking here is simply, what is your culture? What god(s) do you believe in? How do you greet people? What customs do you have? Are there any folkloric tales? What idioms and proverbs do you have? How does your culture reflect on your nature as a clone? Those kind of questions I seek to get answers for, and I'll start off with my own culture, the Intaki.
The Intaki are often considered to be a quiet and contemplative people, never confronting and never outspoken. We think before we speak, and when someone is involved in a task, we rather wait for them to acknowledge us instead of interrupting them. Maximum wxpression via minimum expression is a common proverb that crystallizes our essence, and our culture, beliefs and artwork reflect this mindset.
Our faith, the Ida, is more a way of living and a philosophy than a religion. Followers of Ida live moderately and devote their entire life for understanding this, even several ones. A core belief of the Ida is the cyclical nature of life. A solution leads to more problems, a burnt forest gives birth to a new one, death leads to rebirth. When someone has understood the cycle completely, they can break it and finally move on. We do not have a concept of absolute truth in Ida, or heaven, nor hell. The Ida is a path, and you are expected to walk it yourself. Some people, who are called the Idama and are considered very wise, have decided to pass their soul to the body of an infant, allowing them to live several lifetimes and understand the cycle completely. Rebirth is a deeply engraved part of our culture.
Our paintings and literature are often called thought-provoking and groundbreaking. Intaki artists have revolutionized old artforms ans created new ones, such as metapainting and touch sculpturing. Most notable example of these are our folkloric paintings, depicting historical and mythological settings, creating symboloc renditions of the people of New Eden, and the literature about the volcano Yasur, which erupted the day Gallente made first contact with our people.
We have many unwritten rules and customs that we use when communicating with one another and with non-Intaki, revolving about showing respect to our conversational partners. We bow when we greet, we let our partners finish before speaking ourselves, and we avoid being confrontational. Offending someone is extremely frowned upon in our culture, and we remain calm even in the most chaotic of situations. When we speak, we speak clearly, slowly and sentetiously. Maximum expression via minimum expression.
Capsuleers and clone soldiers aren't too uncommong among the Intaki, and cloning can be compared to the Ida rebirth almost directly. Some Idama have also become capsuleers and clone soldiers to understand the cycle better too. We do not separate infomorphs(people whose only defining trait is the information they carry in their brians) from the 'normal people', at least not the followers of Ida. In a way, every single Intaki is an infomorph.
So what are your own culture and beliefs? I would like it if you shared them here. Keep in mind though, this is not a place to debate if one way of belief is "right" or "wrong", but merely as a place to share your own culture.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.02.09 23:16:00 -
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Do you mean religous culture or our cultural sorroundings that influenced our choices in life? I for an example don't know much about the ethnic caldari religion, which was practiced in my homestation, I just know about our rather different funeral traditions, but that's it.
If you want to hear something about how life was on our station then just ask, but I think the only interesting fact about it is that we live in a station which original purpose was to colonize the planet that we are orbiting. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1056
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Posted - 2014.02.10 09:50:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:Do you mean religous culture or our cultural sorroundings that influenced our choices in life? I for an example don't know much about the ethnic caldari religion, which was practiced in my homestation, I just know about our rather different funeral traditions, but that's it.
If you want to hear something about how life was on our station then just ask, but I think the only interesting fact about it is that we live in a station which original purpose was to colonize the planet that we are orbiting.
Religion and general culture are often linked to each other deeply, and what I asked is what is your culture, what folklore, artwork etc. How it affects you as a clone soldier, as in what your culture thinks about cloning tech, is what I'm interested in knowing as well.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:12:00 -
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Well then I try to explain my culture which are the Caldari of the Civire bloodline.
We Civire are highly competetive and aggressive people who are known to always stay focused and calm in various kinds of situations in whatever line of work we choose. We are known as quick and efficent problem solvers.
The male members of the Civire are strict people who follow their own unmovable and strong moral code, which makes us see world not in grey shades but more in a black and white kind of way.
Being idle is for us something that we avoid most of the time, we take our jobs very serious, because our work is what we are and we expect that everyone we know thinks the same, our profession is even more worth than our relationships with other people.
Female Civire are not much different from the males, they too have a very inflexible moral code, and they try to become the best workers in the job they choose.
They are also very sensible when it comes to people who don't act like a real caldari would do, they see these individuals as outcasts of our society.
Most of them work as teachers, drill sergeants or other lines of work where you have to teach someone the ways of the caldari and they are proud of it.
My drill sergeant back in my young days for an example turned us into excellent recruts and she even turned the foulests little maggot into a respected member of our squad.
We don't have much to do with religion or arts, our world is our work and that is what counts for most of us.
Most Civire are seen in every kind of job from steelworkers, to engineers and members of a buisness board.
But the most interesting job for a Civire is the one of a mercenary it's just fits most personalitys there are even familys who worked as mercs for generations. Entrepreneurs is a rather odd yet fitting job choice for us because we see trading and buisness as a war for dominance that we need to win with every possible method.
There are some of us who don't like how the Caldari State is controlled or how our society works. These "Dissenters" try to change the system with much time and effort , but not in an outright rebellous kind of way. Our security officers (me included) always had to keep an eye on these individuals and what they planned.
I think this is most of the stuff that I know about us, like I said I don't have much knowledge on the subject of arts and religion in our culture and I don't know much about the other bloodlines because the majority of us where Civire.
I hope this helps. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
189
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:39:00 -
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https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Religions_and_rituals
This might add-on to what you know so far also look at my post in Dust fiction called "The Amarr Holy Scriptures" it has alot of Amarr stuff also the Pratorien Libary here in the IGS area of the forums it may also help you |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1058
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:46:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Religions_and_rituals
This might add-on to what you know so far also look at my post in Dust fiction called "The Amarr Holy Scriptures" it has alot of Amarr stuff also the Pratorien Libary here in the IGS area of the forums it may also help you
((Firstly, this is IC. I want to hear what your character says and thinks of his or her culture, not what you wrote about it OOC. Second, I wanted to see you tell it out to me, speak it in your own words instead of copypasting a link, that just feels lazy))
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
189
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:55:00 -
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Oh lol I thought you were looking for the actual lore links & stuff XD my bad well everything I think you can find in my character bio post & some other posts I've made about. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1058
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:05:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Oh lol I thought you were looking for the actual lore links & stuff XD my bad well everything I think you can find in my character bio post & some other posts I've made about.
((Issue still prevails, I'm here to hear what your character itself thinks in this thread, not read some other post that you made ages ago. Just saying: "Go here and read that" still feels lazy to me, and defeats the point of this thread, nevertheless the fact that my character can't read your bio, as it is OOC information. And remember, brackets around OOC posts))
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:28:00 -
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You also asked about Capsuleers and immortal Mercenarys well I would say that in the point of view of a Civire that the cloning tech gives them the opportunity to live the life of a mercenary whether in space or on the ground and that without the fear to die, which is in the eyes of the young and typical Civire the perfect opportunity.
And many Civire CEO's are most likely Capsuleers or Mercs, just for the fact that this makes them far harder to kill IF a rivalling Corporation ( or allied Corp) tries to get rid of them, some people would call that paranoia we call it being cautious.
Our station, as an example again, liked the capsuleers most of the time, they were good couriers and wandering traders and don't get me started on all these children and teenagers who thought that this is the most amazing thing ever and that clones lifes are full of adventures and wonders.
But most of them stopped caring after they noticed what for a good life we had back home, still there were some who decided to become a capsuleer and succeded.
Mercenarys are most likely the same thing but I was the first person on our station to be turned into one, they were only a rumor back in my mortal days, we didn't even believe that they were true until that day.
Again I hope I helped you with finding the information you wanted any other better educated Caldari can come and correct me because like I said I don't know everything. |
Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
598
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Posted - 2014.02.15 01:00:00 -
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Ermac is correct, but most of our race doesn't forsay worship the four winds, but follows the teachings and the ideas they have given us. The winds each help us in a way they guide us the winds dont ask for worship, but for us to honor them. We call it "The Way", and many Caldari follow "The Way" without realizing it.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Hunter Junko
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2014.02.15 07:57:00 -
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I cant say much about my beliefs. being that i was a trader/pilot before i became a clone soldier. because of this, i've been subject to the colors of new eden.
but i can say is this: The Thukker way is a method of disciplining our people, by teaching us ( often times the hard way) to learn from our mistakes or to never deviate from the path we've chosen. I chose to become a pilot, but before that i also had to overcome some very difficult obstacles. obstacles that had me tested to the very limits in terms of willpower and resourcefulness.
my leisure clone has a tribal necklace, made from the bone of an animal said to be even more terrifying than the amarr's slaver dogs. ,symbolizing proof that i can ready to leave my village and ply my trade throughout new eden. i've been at it ever since.
i'f i had my original body i would show you the scars i had from fighting that animal.
although i am a clone soldier, i am first a pilot and before that ,a member of the Thukker tribe. that alone has seemed to help me retain my sanity |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10027
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:43:00 -
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I believe in life.
There is no faith I follow. I believe that a better universe will not simply be gifted by some god, or that there's some hereafter.
I believe in making the best of our existence. That is all.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7494
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I believe in life.
There is no faith I follow. I believe that a better universe will not simply be gifted by some god, or that there's some hereafter.
I believe in making the best of our existence. That is all.
As do I. But I believe through Faith we find purpose.
My culture I suppose is more difficult to pin point and specific to me personally.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3300
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:01:00 -
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I gotta roll Khanid
They believe that man's influence is greater than god's but do not deny the existence of god.
That's like, reality.
Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7506
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:24:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:I gotta roll Khanid
They believe that man's influence is greater than god's but do not deny the existence of god.
That's like, reality.
You misunderstand the significance of the mark. Its not what they believe but it was a symbol of Khanid independence against the Throne.
The Khanid however are once again a people of the Empire, many Khanid are not of the same opinion as their King.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3306
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
You misunderstand the significance of the mark. Its not what they believe but it was a symbol of Khanid independence against the Throne.
The Khanid however are once again a people of the Empire, many Khanid are not of the same opinion as their King.
Or so you believe.
The King who did not perform the ritualistic suicide would not allow the Amarr theological council's demands end his life before his work was done.
Man's will was greater than God's (you could relate that to Adam and Eve if you wanted). If the King did sacrifice himself he'd a followed the Amarrian ways AKA God's will.
Although technically the suicide was a measure of keeping order in the Empire, think about it: The Empire is a religious one, one where actions are taken in the name of their god.
That's just how I see it. There are Khanid who want to rejoin the Amarr empire I know, but I'm not among them :P.
Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7512
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:58:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:True Adamance wrote:
You misunderstand the significance of the mark. Its not what they believe but it was a symbol of Khanid independence against the Throne.
The Khanid however are once again a people of the Empire, many Khanid are not of the same opinion as their King.
Or so you believe. The King who did not perform the ritualistic suicide would not allow the Amarr theological council's demands end his life before his work was done. Man's will was greater than God's (you could relate that to Adam and Eve if you wanted). If the King did sacrifice himself he'd a followed the Amarrian ways AKA God's will. Although technically the suicide was a measure of keeping order in the Empire, think about it: The Empire is a religious one, one where actions are taken in the name of their god. That's just how I see it. There are Khanid who want to rejoin the Amarr empire I know, but I'm not among them :P.
Then silence yourself. The Empire doesn't need your kind amongst its ranks.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:24:00 -
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Guys could you both at least explain something from your culture?
This is not a place to discuss why someone is wrong or make it a competition this is a place where we want to explain in our words our cultures.
So could both of you please stop this and make an attempt to contribute to this topic? |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7513
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:32:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:Guys could you both at least explain something from your culture?
This is not a place to discuss why someone is wrong or make it a competition this is a place where we want to explain in our words our cultures.
So could both of you please stop this and make an attempt to contribute to this topic?
Indeed I shall.
I may need some time to compose the whole thing.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1756
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Posted - 2014.02.26 03:17:00 -
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I believe in no gods and no eternal reward once my clone contract is up.
Gods are the sort of filth a master feeds to his slaves to keep them in line.
I visit a shrine to my ancestors whenever I can make it home to Lustrevik. Unlike some of my family, I believe they're dead and gone, not spirits watching over me.
But I respect my ancestors' experiences and knowledge that they've passed on, and I feel that I can keep that part of them alive in a way by remembering and honoring them.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Hunter Junko
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
234
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Posted - 2014.02.26 07:46:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:I believe in no gods and no eternal reward once my clone contract is up.
Gods are the sort of filth a master feeds to his slaves to keep them in line.
I visit a shrine to my ancestors whenever I can make it home to Lustrevik. Unlike some of my family, I believe they're dead and gone, not spirits watching over me.
But I respect my ancestors' experiences and knowledge that they've passed on, and I feel that I can keep that part of them alive in a way by remembering and honoring them.
huh.. which tribe are you from Distrubed? or is it something you personally adopted as your own? |
Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
26
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Posted - 2014.02.27 04:21:00 -
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My God is Death.
I serve my God the bodies of my enemies.
Nothing religious. Nothing spiritual. Nothing financial. If I am well paid for applying my skills, so be it. If I take a financial loss, I will survive.
And I will kill again. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7676
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Posted - 2014.02.27 10:52:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:My God is Death.
I serve my God the bodies of my enemies.
Nothing religious. Nothing spiritual. Nothing financial. If I am well paid for applying my skills, so be it. If I take a financial loss, I will survive.
And I will kill again.
That's a hollow way to live....
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
26
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:My God is Death.
I serve my God the bodies of my enemies.
Nothing religious. Nothing spiritual. Nothing financial. If I am well paid for applying my skills, so be it. If I take a financial loss, I will survive.
And I will kill again. That's a hollow way to live....
But it's my choice. The simple act of choosing a life and living it the way I desire is fulfilling in and of itself. |
Rinas Rylos
Rinas' Raiders
80
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:04:00 -
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I used to be pretty similar to most "pureblooded" Gallente. The government is great, all the other empires and factions and whatnot are a bunch of bullshit (except for the Minmatar, of course), we're the zenith of human freedom, blah, blah blah. It was all pretty much lip service, and I felt the same way about religion. Not that it was pushed on us a whole lot anyway. 'Course, I'd have sworn the government was the best thing since hyperspace travel if it'd gotten me a decent living wage, so hey.
Being able to live out on a space station (on a Gallentean one, admittedly, but so far they haven't tried to **** with me) has given me a bit more of an expanded perspective. It wasn't as though I really thought the other empire races were lesser, but I didn't really have much of a chance to interact with 'em, y'know? Going out into space has given a lot to think about, but probably the most reassuring thing I've come to learn is that just about all four empires are full of ****. It isn't just the Gallente, oh no, everyone has some kind of idiocy running rampant throughout their culture. They say that none of us are as stupid as all of us, but as it turns out, we're all doing pretty well on the stupidity front all on our own.
Have you checked out my diary?
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
629
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Posted - 2014.03.03 23:19:00 -
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((I'll be giving an in detail explanation of "the way" soon I'm currently working a 24 hour shift so plenty of free time.))
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5306
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Posted - 2014.03.23 07:13:00 -
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Beliefs?
A nice busty short girl with a nice ass and hips with a pretty face.
Culture?
Doggy Style.
And that's how I role.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
699
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Posted - 2014.03.23 13:28:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Beliefs?
A nice busty petite girl with a nice ass, hips and a pretty face.
Culture?
Doggy Style.
And that's how I role.
Not to sound rude but do you even know your culture? I've read some beliefs within the Federation, and even though most of your people are drug addicts the upper class have a relatively nice culture.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5311
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Posted - 2014.03.23 15:24:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Beliefs?
A nice busty petite girl with a nice ass, hips and a pretty face.
Culture?
Doggy Style.
And that's how I role. Not to sound rude but do you even know your culture? I've read some beliefs within the Federation, and even though most of your people are drug addicts the upper class have a relatively nice culture.
haha, that's rich. Last time I checked this was about my beliefs.
and I just like to have a good time and blow **** up with artistic flare.
But to actually humor this Caldari's comment, yes I do but this was about my culture and beliefs. You want to categorize and have a specific idea of what you think I, as an ethnic Gallente, should say in this thread only shows that you don't know too much about our society.
Now as an individual; Some people, like myself are content with the fact that there probably isn't a god and look at the success of the ancestors, and modern selves as something to take in awe and "oneness" you could say. There isn't a whole lot to my beliefs besides the golden rule humanity has always attempted to keep. So no, none of that supernatural, or spiritual matters here, not that there's anything wrong with that though. So if you wanted some kind of Religious hoopla answer from everybody you're going to have a bad time.
Also if you think Gallenteans should follow a certain character pattern that you have perceived in your mind you're going to have a horrible time especially from me.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis CALSF
699
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Posted - 2014.03.23 16:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Beliefs?
A nice busty petite girl with a nice ass, hips and a pretty face.
Culture?
Doggy Style.
And that's how I role. Not to sound rude but do you even know your culture? I've read some beliefs within the Federation, and even though most of your people are drug addicts the upper class have a relatively nice culture. haha, that's rich. Last time I checked this was about my beliefs. and I just like to have a good time and blow **** up with artistic flare. But to actually humor this Caldari's comment, yes I do but this was about my culture and beliefs. You want to categorize and have a specific idea of what you think I, as an ethnic Gallente, should say in this thread only shows that you don't know too much about our society. Now as an individual; Some people, like myself are content with the fact that there probably isn't a god and look at the success of the ancestors, and modern selves as something to take in awe and "oneness" you could say. There isn't a whole lot to my beliefs besides the golden rule humanity has always attempted to keep. So no, none of that supernatural, or spiritual matters here, not that there's anything wrong with that though. So if you wanted some kind of Religious hoopla answer from everybody you're going to have a bad time. Also if you think Gallenteans should follow a certain character pattern that you have perceived in your mind you're going to have a horrible time especially from me.
Typical. I try to understand my enemy and yet he says his beliefs. You are apart of the gallente federation your beliefs are shared with rose you grew up with I'm simply stating that blowing things up and having sex isn't all you have. If it is you have a very shallow life and I will direct you to a higher calling. And I don't wanna sound rude, but we caldari aren't religious we are spiritual their is a difference.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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