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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.02.09 13:42:00 -
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Gallente Assault suit <-- Arguably the worst bonus in 1.8, and right now has a useless bonus Shotgun <-- 4m max range and is out DPS'd by an SMG Assault Rifle <-- Worst rifle of the four, lowest range with same DPS as high range weapons Plasma Cannon <-- Worst AV and arguably worst weapon, right there with the laser Ion Pistol <-- Isn't released yet but it's so easy to see how underpowered it is it's not even funny
Gallente tech that does work: Active Scanner <-- Getting a heavy nerf in 1.8 Flux Grenade <-- Just barely works as equipment breaker. Core locus already defeats most shields with the added bonus of actually killing people.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.09 13:48:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:I am starting to think that CCP will not only nerf the AR in 1.8 but also not give the Gallente weapons the highest DPS as they should. Hey! Caldari need that high DPS to go along with their range!
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.09 13:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Arguably the worst, maybe. Not absolutely the worst - that Caldari one is pretty terrible. But then, both are awful. But then you look at their weaponry...
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.09 14:00:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:All weapons and TTK are being readjusted in 1.8 - who knows, the AR might become the highest DPS rifles afterall. And a nerf to SMGs is coming too, so your shotgun might out damage them too. Also, the changes to medium suit stats/layouts haven't come out yet either.
Wait for all the facts before you start making assertions like these. SMG wasn't confirmed to be nerfed. CCP are betting on the Gallente assault bonus making the AR half useful. Don't ask where I know it from. I was talking about medium frame bonuses, I didn't say anything about their stats.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.09 14:11:00 -
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Tau Lai wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Gallente Assault suit <-- Arguably the worst bonus in 1.8, and right now has a useless bonus Shotgun <-- 4m max range and is out DPS'd by an SMG Assault Rifle <-- Worst rifle of the four, lowest range with same DPS as high range weapons Plasma Cannon <-- Worst AV and arguably worst weapon, right there with the laser Ion Pistol <-- Isn't released yet but it's so easy to see how underpowered it is it's not even funny Gallente tech that does work: Active Scanner <-- Getting a heavy nerf in 1.8 Flux Grenade <-- Just barely works as equipment breaker. Core locus already defeats most shields with the added bonus of actually killing people. Sidenotes: Gallente are the only one's without a medium frame BPO (As in non militia) Up until 1.8, Gallente had no sidearm Conclusion: I am going full Gallente in 1.8 regardless, even if the assault suit had 10HP and the AR shot pink fluffy bunnies instead of plasma I would go Gallente. Y u no fix You must be kidding. Caldari was way too nerfed in 1.7, ruining the shield tank setup. FW is invaded by an armor tank gallente legion right now........ Shields weren't ruined. My Caldari assault still dominates.
In FW I see Caldari/Minmatar/Amarr suits just as often as Gallente suits.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
6313
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:08:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Django Quik wrote:All weapons and TTK are being readjusted in 1.8 - who knows, the AR might become the highest DPS rifles afterall. And a nerf to SMGs is coming too, so your shotgun might out damage them too. Also, the changes to medium suit stats/layouts haven't come out yet either.
Wait for all the facts before you start making assertions like these. SMG wasn't confirmed to be nerfed. CCP are betting on the Gallente assault bonus making the AR half useful. Don't ask where I know it from. I was talking about medium frame bonuses, I didn't say anything about their stats. CCP Saberwing wrote:I saw that CCP Logibro hinted at Rail Rifles being nerfed a bit in 1.8 - this is true :) I've mentioned a few times that there will be TTK adjustments in 1.8 and we are looking at improving this overall by reducing the base damage and damage mods on some of the Rifles / SMGs. The difference isn't huge(!!!) - but it's there.
Well, the thread seems to be about why CCP are making the gallente so generally crap but it's far too early to be saying that when there's so much more information that could come out to change the balance of EVERYTHING. Now, if you know things that the rest of us don't, that's great but if you're not going to share that knowledge, don't go around alluding to it and telling us how it's going to affect the game without us being able to judge the information for ourselves. And for the record, I agree with you on the bonus not looking particularly useful with all things currently as they stand but say they increase kick/dispersion on all automatic weapons dramatically, then it'll be massively useful (at least for the AR). I don't believe they are. According to CPM, in internal testing AR seems to dominate in CQC thanks to the bonus.
Though I find it hard to believe internal testing considering they figured that the RR is fine, even BEFORE the nerf that happened before thw 1.7 release. We just barely managed to get a slight change out of wolfman after I talked with him on IRC.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:27:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:
I don't think CCP internal testing = real battle. It's probably two dudes just messing around... and the AR should dominate even without the bonus since you know it's not the Gallente Assaults only who use the AR.
Actually internal testing is when their entire office does a few matches and report their findings.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
6318
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:58:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:List of worst bonuses from least to greatest: Caldari assault Amarr scout Gallente Assault Amarr heavy ( it needs resistance to both armor killing weapons )
Really? Resistance is a bad bonus?
Yeah, sure, it's on both shields and armor, but still.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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