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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:00:00 -
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3% increase to light weapon/sidearm effective and maximum range.
Credit due to Kagehoshi, Rail weapons, bar the Forge gun, should have a nerf to base range.
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1915
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:02:00 -
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nope how about they get the gal bonus
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
479
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:03:00 -
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Range is a bad idea. Ye olde Sharpshooter was removed for that reason. Being able to shoot father "cuz i haz more sp" is not a good thing. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
5674
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:03:00 -
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Then the LR would have less of a role than its already non-existent one.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8979
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:06:00 -
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I would strongly support if the hybrid-rail weapons got a range reduction to compensate.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:09:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Range is a bad idea. Ye olde Sharpshooter was removed for that reason. Being able to shoot father "cuz i haz more sp" is not a good thing.
As much as I'd like to agree higher level weapons have longer ranges.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4050
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:09:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Then the LR would have less of a role than its already non-existent one.
How does this do anything but help the Laser Rifle?
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
647
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:15:00 -
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Should be +5% scope zoom
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2062
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:37:00 -
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What if its racial bonus significantly reduced the spool time for Rail Weapons and increased their reload speed?
-10% Spool time and +5% reload speed for Hybrid-Rail Light/Sidearm weapons per level.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1563
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:39:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Then the LR would have less of a role than its already non-existent one. How does this do anything but help the Laser Rifle?
...because the LR isn't a rail weapon?
And all the other bonuses are for specific weapons, ergo LR would be even more outclassed by the RR than it is as is.
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Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
195
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:41:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would strongly support if the hybrid-rail weapons got a range reduction to compensate.
Then that is no bonus at all. It's the same as giving Minmatar the clip size bonus of 10% and reducing their clip size by 10%, whats the point? |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4050
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:42:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:What if its racial bonus significantly reduced the spool time for Rail Weapons and increased their reload speed?
-10% Spool time and +5% reload speed for Hybrid-Rail Light/Sidearm weapons per level.
No, unless spool up time is severely increased. It is the only factor keeping the Rail Rifle from completely dominating CQC.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
582
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:43:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:What if its racial bonus significantly reduced the spool time for Rail Weapons and increased their reload speed?
-10% Spool time and +5% reload speed for Hybrid-Rail Light/Sidearm weapons per level.
they would need to increase the spoolup time so that the RR would be noticably more useful on caldari assault much like the heat up on laser weapons in relation to amarr assaults
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4050
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:43:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Then the LR would have less of a role than its already non-existent one. How does this do anything but help the Laser Rifle? ...because the LR isn't a rail weapon? And all the other bonuses are for specific weapons, ergo LR would be even more outclassed by the RR than it is as is. It would affect the LR too.
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
2825
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:44:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Range is a bad idea. Ye olde Sharpshooter was removed for that reason. Being able to shoot father "cuz i haz more sp" is not a good thing. As much as I'd like to agree higher level weapons have longer ranges.
But only slightly. Basic RR has an optimal of 65, and the Proto has a 78m optimal. That is 13 more meters.
For the record, a 15% increase in the range of a Proto RR would put it's Optimal to 90m and it's effective up to 117m.
For a gun with massive range, this would in fact push it over the top. Range for the RR is fine right now, what it needs is something to help it put more rounds down range accurately ( I'm in favor for a kick reduction. Thing kicks like a mule)
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
528
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Then the LR would have less of a role than its already non-existent one. How does this do anything but help the Laser Rifle? ...because the LR isn't a rail weapon? And all the other bonuses are for specific weapons, ergo LR would be even more outclassed by the RR than it is as is. It would affect the LR too.
But not in the hands of any of the other 3 races.
CCP your our matchmaking sucks
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6273
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:51:00 -
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In that case I want ROF on my AR.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
721
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Posted - 2014.02.09 06:52:00 -
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Make Spool up time .5 seconds, and give the CalAssault -10% charge time. At level 5, it'd still be .25 seconds.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2063
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:00:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:What if its racial bonus significantly reduced the spool time for Rail Weapons and increased their reload speed?
-10% Spool time and +5% reload speed for Hybrid-Rail Light/Sidearm weapons per level. No, unless spool up time is severely increased. It is the only factor keeping the Rail Rifle from completely dominating CQC.
I'm pretty sure CCP is going to be fairly unwavering in their desicion of weapon based assault Bonuses.
I get the feeling that they are doing the same thing to Assaults that they are doing to Logis, but with weapons instead of equipment. They are going to nerf weapons, then give assault suits bonuses that help to mitigate those nerfs.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Rail Rifle gets a reduced magazine size or an increased reload time. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Assault Rifle gets a nerf to its dispersion, the ScR gets a nerf to its RoF/heat buildup, and the Combat Rifle gets a nerf to its magazine size or burst interval speed.
You Caldari and Gallente Assault guys are going to have to decide what you want.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4050
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:14:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:What if its racial bonus significantly reduced the spool time for Rail Weapons and increased their reload speed?
-10% Spool time and +5% reload speed for Hybrid-Rail Light/Sidearm weapons per level. No, unless spool up time is severely increased. It is the only factor keeping the Rail Rifle from completely dominating CQC. I'm pretty sure CCP is going to be fairly unwavering in their desicion of weapon based assault Bonuses. I get the feeling that they are doing the same thing to Assaults that they are doing to Logis, but with weapons instead of equipment. They are going to nerf weapons, then give assault suits bonuses that help to mitigate those nerfs. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rail Rifle gets a reduced magazine size or an increased reload time. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Assault Rifle gets a nerf to its dispersion, the ScR gets a nerf to its RoF/heat buildup, and the Combat Rifle gets a nerf to its magazine size or burst interval speed. You Caldari and Gallente Assault guys are going to have to decide what you want. Logi Bro already stated that the Rail Rifle will have reduced damage, but he never stated if reduced damage would be limited to just the Rail Rifle.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2073
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:24:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:What if its racial bonus significantly reduced the spool time for Rail Weapons and increased their reload speed?
-10% Spool time and +5% reload speed for Hybrid-Rail Light/Sidearm weapons per level. No, unless spool up time is severely increased. It is the only factor keeping the Rail Rifle from completely dominating CQC. I'm pretty sure CCP is going to be fairly unwavering in their desicion of weapon based assault Bonuses. I get the feeling that they are doing the same thing to Assaults that they are doing to Logis, but with weapons instead of equipment. They are going to nerf weapons, then give assault suits bonuses that help to mitigate those nerfs. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rail Rifle gets a reduced magazine size or an increased reload time. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Assault Rifle gets a nerf to its dispersion, the ScR gets a nerf to its RoF/heat buildup, and the Combat Rifle gets a nerf to its magazine size or burst interval speed. You Caldari and Gallente Assault guys are going to have to decide what you want. Logi Bro already stated that the Rail Rifle will have reduced damage, but he never stated if reduced damage would be limited to just the Rail Rifle.
He also said a reduced damage is not to be the only change to the Rail Rifle. He then continued to say that that other changes will be made, presumably to other weapons, specifically, the other rifles.
CCP Logibro wrote:Like I mentioned in the other thread, this isn't the only change being made (and I don't mean to just the Rail Rifle). We'll have all the details soon.
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Neo Rinzler
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2014.02.09 14:39:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would strongly support if the hybrid-rail weapons got a range reduction to compensate.
What on earth is the point in giving the assault suit a range bonus which simply negates a new range nerf which you'd add if a range bonus was added ?? W e are better off not having the range bonus in the 1st place and not having the range nerf either and keep the current range ...
Seriously enough with your ideas for the Caldari .. you've already proven that you don't have a clue what your talking about |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9181
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Posted - 2014.02.09 14:43:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:nope how about they get the gal bonus
So... Give the Gal a useless bonus?
Also, the Gal one isn't that great and wouldn't be that great on a Callassault anyway.
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