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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:28:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Especially now with the Mass Driver changes right. I must say 1.8 is looking out to be the best patch ever, as long as there's no major bugs along with it.
CCP's track record is longer downtimes and borked content for a few days with small patches to fix and adjust the new content. I am not trying to be a downer, just a realist. Expect anything but a flawless release.
I would not expect a SP refund either. They are master trolls, don't forget it. I do think we will get a partial refund because they have painted themselves into a corner but I would not be surprised if it doesn't happen.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.09 16:17:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Especially now with the Mass Driver changes right. I must say 1.8 is looking out to be the best patch ever, as long as there's no major bugs along with it.
CCP's track record is longer downtimes and borked content for a few days with small patches to fix and adjust the new content. I am not trying to be a downer, just a realist. Expect anything but a flawless release.
I would not expect a SP refund either. They are master trolls, don't forget it. I do think we will get a partial refund because they have painted themselves into a corner but I would not be surprised if it doesn't happen.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1603
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Posted - 2014.02.09 16:50:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Especially now with the Mass Driver changes right. I must say 1.8 is looking out to be the best patch ever, as long as there's no major bugs along with it. Nope. There is clearly an internal discussion within CCP about the merits of any kind of sp respec, and personally I see the latest round of sp bonus weeks as the workaround to this issue: don't refund the sp, just shower is with massive amounts of bonus sp so that we can all play with the new toys come patch day. At most, well get a suit respec. But I don't think that's a given, either. Yes but the sp event we just had would be too far away from 1.8 release. So in my opinion unless they have another one, the last sp event we had is just too far away from the 1.8 release date. I already spent my sp because I am confident we will get a respec. The main point to me is if they don't give a respec lots of people have said they're gonna leave, plus they would be missing out on an opportunity to bring back old players.
The only thing that will bring back and keep old players is content. Refunded SP is about a six week bandaid. A full line up of suits and weapons will do more for the game than any refunded SP will. Good games keep players not how often one can respecialize. We need content not respecs. You want to bring back players and make the active players happy? Add all suits and weapons, player trading/market and PVE. A full line of vehicles from every race will help but the first three are the most important.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Especially now with the Mass Driver changes right. I must say 1.8 is looking out to be the best patch ever, as long as there's no major bugs along with it. Nope. There is clearly an internal discussion within CCP about the merits of any kind of sp respec, and personally I see the latest round of sp bonus weeks as the workaround to this issue: don't refund the sp, just shower is with massive amounts of bonus sp so that we can all play with the new toys come patch day. At most, well get a suit respec. But I don't think that's a given, either. Yes but the sp event we just had would be too far away from 1.8 release. So in my opinion unless they have another one, the last sp event we had is just too far away from the 1.8 release date. I already spent my sp because I am confident we will get a respec. The main point to me is if they don't give a respec lots of people have said they're gonna leave, plus they would be missing out on an opportunity to bring back old players. The only thing that will bring back and keep old players is content. Refunded SP is about a six week bandaid. A full line up of suits and weapons will do more for the game than any refunded SP will. Good games keep players not how often one can respecialize. We need content not respecs. You want to bring back players and make the active players happy? Add all suits and weapons, player trading/market and PVE. A full line of vehicles from every race will help but the first three are the most important. Yet adding in that backlogged content without refunding SP will only serve to further push players away
I agree, I am only saying that a SP refund does not make the game fun, to stop players from leaving and staying gone we need content not refunds. It will help for a while but respecs doesn't keep or attract players. It may bring some back for make us feel better-for a while-but it doesn't solve any of the problems we have.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 01:17:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The only skills that should be refunded are sidearm skills and the light/heavy frame skills
If you wanted to use a mass driver, you should've put SP into it by now.
Pretty much what you said.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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