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Yelhsa Jin-Mao Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:51:00 - [1] - Quote Assaults and Logis will be about as rare in 1.8 as a commando is in 1.7. I'm calling it now, DUST514 in 1.8 will be the equivalent of 'Supersize vs Super-Skinny', only instead of Supersized Mc Donalds meals and KFC Family Buckets for one vs Celery Sticks and Graham Crackers, we will see HMG's and Core Locust Grenades vs Breach Shoutguns and Remote Explosives. I can has ISK
Bleeding Knight Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 103	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:54:00 - [2] - Quote Source?
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 301	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:55:00 - [3] - Quote AHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!..... No. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. [Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 848	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:55:00 - [4] - Quote Calling it now - it won't. There will probably be a more even mix though
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10634	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:56:00 - [5] - Quote I'll be using my respec to ditch my fatsuit for a scout. I can definitely see scouts and heavies being FoTG for a while though. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 665	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:57:00 - [6] - Quote I agree with you OP. I've been a logibro since closed beta and I will probably still have at least a logi setup on my main because my corp expects it, but overall I think I'll be playing more Caldari commando in 1.8 Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 812	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:58:00 - [7] - Quote ..... and you just got this NOW!!! *Assassination is my thing.*
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 482	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:59:00 - [8] - Quote Eh, assault will prob still be most popular. Follows by logi, but it will be a lot closer in numbers 35% assault/med 20% logi 15% scout, 15% sentinel/heavy, 15% commando
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1346	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:00:00 - [9] - Quote I'll probably use my commando as a fat logi. If I feel it's not working I'll skill amarr or gallente logis again. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
OZAROW 0uter.Heaven 1356	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:05:00 - [10] - Quote Yes but how many good scouts??? Going from super squishy scout is one thing but going from slayer , taking bullets an then putting on a scout suits is another lol then they ll nerf scouts an hence for the constant b!tching for a respect, can't wait SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2176	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:06:00 - [11] - Quote Will be heavy/sentinel/commando 514 "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 482	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:09:00 - [12] - Quote I'm running around dominating as a passiv scanning adv gallante scout. More slots, CPU and pg? And just free cloak since I get a new equipment slot? Gunna be easy mode.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 425	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:10:00 - [13] - Quote Heavys will die in a fire without logis, no reps or ammo resuply will make being a logi with all the new heavys around the most powerful unit on the battle field, enemys will curse you and team mates will sing your name in battle songs.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10640	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:13:00 - [14] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Yes but how many good scouts??? Going from super squishy scout is one thing but going from slayer , taking bullets an then putting on a scout suits is another lol then they ll nerf scouts an hence for the constant b!tching for a respect, can't wait When I can be bothered to play I tear it up in my ADV scout fit with no relevant skills raised. Having a near maxed out scout is going to be glorious. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 149	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:14:00 - [15] - Quote I'm going Gal logi and Gal scout on GREY CARDINAL. I probably won't go proto on all logi equipment this time around so 32 mill SP will probably get me comfortably specced into a few other roles/suits too. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 489	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:20:00 - [16] - Quote logis rare..lol maybe slyaer logis, somenes got to rep those heavies A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2334	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:21:00 - [17] - Quote I'm all over that bandwagon. Assaults are (and will be) the least versatile dropsuits in the game, why would anyone that has any sense skill them other than just to prove some moot point? Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 226	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:25:00 - [18] - Quote Hahaha funny. Say that to my 85 assault combat rifle mag and 8 flaylock mag in 1.8 Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 451	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:31:00 - [19] - Quote real logies will still be logies because we need them, there will be gunfighters that don't want to be slower than balls and the assault will actually give them an edge over logies, there will be alot more scouts because the ninja in us all will finally have a chance to come out. I can see heavies being a new abused fit though, no bonus to heavy weapons and heavy weapons are crap, we'll be seeing alot of tanked heavies with rail rifles and combat rifles. Although CCP logibro said that the rail rifle will be hit with the nerf bat in 1.8 and there will be other changes to the rifles and guns in general so maybe heavy weapons will actually be useful. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 224	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:33:00 - [20] - Quote Scouts deserve it, as do the Heavy Suits (Commando/Sentinel). I'll finally be picking up my Gal Scout (was gonna get it, but then all my points went into ADSs...) Meanwhile, I'll rep all the bangwagon Heavies. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!

NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 278	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:35:00 - [21] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: real logies will still be logies because we need them, there will be gunfighters that don't want to be slower than balls and the assault will actually give them an edge over logies, there will be alot more scouts because the ninja in us all will finally have a chance to come out. I can see heavies being a new abused fit though, no bonus to heavy weapons and heavy weapons are crap, we'll be seeing alot of tanked heavies with rail rifles and combat rifles. Although CCP logibro said that the rail rifle will be hit with the nerf bat in 1.8 and there will be other changes to the rifles and guns in general so maybe heavy weapons will actually be useful. So the ninja went in the closet, then the assault did too, now im mad, so I pull out my gun! You better come out or I cap some ***! 1! 2! 3!oh, this is nice 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 585	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:42:00 - [22] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Assaults and Logis will be about as rare in 1.8 as a commando is in 1.7. I'm calling it now, DUST514 in 1.8 will be the equivalent of 'Supersize vs Super-Skinny', only instead of Supersized Mc Donalds meals and KFC Family Buckets for one vs Celery Sticks and Graham Crackers, we will see HMG's and Core Locust Grenades vs Breach Shoutguns and Remote Explosives. If you were in closed beta you'd realize how dumb you sound We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1080	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:42:00 - [23] - Quote So many people are going to don a scout suit and get torn the shreads and join the "I want more respecs" crowd. Scouts are getting a buff for the people already skilled into them. new people are going to find out it is hard-mode. And that the cloak will be underwhelming. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday morning)
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 480	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:44:00 - [24] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Assaults and Logis will be about as rare in 1.8 as a commando is in 1.7. I'm calling it now, DUST514 in 1.8 will be the equivalent of 'Supersize vs Super-Skinny', only instead of Supersized Mc Donalds meals and KFC Family Buckets for one vs Celery Sticks and Graham Crackers, we will see HMG's and Core Locust Grenades vs Breach Shoutguns and Remote Explosives. Nope. Well probably see a lot more heavy and min logi combos though. That, i can assure you of. Assaults will be balanced, and logi slayers will be forced to help their team. Scouts will be viable, and commandos will no longer be a joke. Im not quite sure what the problem is Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 893	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:49:00 - [25] - Quote if we get a respec ill go gallogi, gallassault, amarr heavy, and caldari scout probs. scanners will be godsends since they'll be rare, the gallassault turns the AR into CQC king with bonus(minmatar will prolly get nerfed), amarr heavy is the tankiest heavy(has like 20 more hp potential than gallente) with best resistances while the crap regen 900 shield will still make me a little more self reliant, caldari scout just cus i'd like to have decent sprint with a little more shield than minnys. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Foxbat 071 Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2014.02.08 21:42:00 - [26] - Quote this made me lol *BLAP* ( X ) Call For Help ( O ) Respawn
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3941	Posted - 2014.02.08 22:17:00 - [27] - Quote Not going to happen. The numbers out scouts and sentinels (there are commandos, remember) will stay the same; just assaults and logis will complain about them more. I am your scan error.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 301	Posted - 2014.02.08 22:22:00 - [28] - Quote Did you not see the amarr and min assault bonuses? Yes the gallente/caldari suits got hosed, but they aren't many of then tbh. I'll see one, 1 in 4 games if it's a ck.0, the lower tiers almost never. Lesser galassaults are a bit more common but gk.0s are unicorns. 32db Mad Bomber.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 904	Posted - 2014.02.08 22:35:00 - [29] - Quote Gonna laugh as people spec into scouts only to get shredded by rifle fire in less then a second Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Onesimus Tarsus 1122	Posted - 2014.02.08 22:38:00 - [30] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Gonna laugh as people spec into scouts only to get shredded by rifle fire in less then a second I'm actually going to spec into Amarr Scout, because I hate me. Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.

TYCHUS MAXWELL Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.02.08 22:56:00 - [31] - Quote "This thread reminds me of all the tanks are gonna be doomed!" Threads before 1.7 launched. IE, the community was aware of the specs but they either A) ignored the hardeners and passive hp bonuses thinking an extra 1000-2000 armor mattered without high resistance hardeners or B) were trolling the community. As much as I don't want to believe that CCP will go overboard, they are going to almost surely go overboard with the changes. The passive resistance on heavies is going to make them chew up medium suits. They will need healz! people naively say. You don't need heals on a heavy, I can run 6.8k isk heavy machine gun fits that can down quite a few people and chew up proto assaults/logis without reps and that's before the passive resistances are added. You don't have to have active repairs to kill more than you die in heavy suits, you just have to have a positive K/DR and you are well on your way to pulling your weight on your team if you are doing this at objectives. Light suits though pitiful at the moment I expect to see in 1.8 running around with militia shotguns and cloaks. Unless there is a huge delay between uncloaking and firing, players will just cloak right up to targets and make their rag doll fold in half. From what CCP has shared, the cloaks can last for many seconds which gives scouts plenty of time to sprint to a new target in cityscapes. If you think scout shottys are bad now, they will be a part of the FOTG along with any sort of heavy in 1.8. Its not hard to see when we do get the stats what is going to be overpowered, like that of Rail Rifles. People were likewise saying, well that .2 seconds is a big deal! Not big enough to ignore the massive effective range advantage over other rifles and the same damage as a freakin' breach assault rifle.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1369	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:05:00 - [32] - Quote I don't see it... "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
TYCHUS MAXWELL Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:17:00 - [33] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: I don't see it... That's ok, somehow people didn't see tanks514 either, when they were given much more speed, heavy resistance hardeners, and passive regen for armor tanks while giving shield tanks 2000 regen per second on actives, all while nerfing av across the board and there were constant tank QQ threads saying tanks were going to be unusable, because this community has the foresight of a mole. One thing I have learned about the community of this game since I started playing last summer. Most of the community didn't invest SP into arithmetic and game theory.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4491	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:18:00 - [34] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Assaults and Logis will be about as rare in 1.8 as a commando is in 1.7. I'm calling it now, DUST514 in 1.8 will be the equivalent of 'Supersize vs Super-Skinny', only instead of Supersized Mc Donalds meals and KFC Family Buckets for one vs Celery Sticks and Graham Crackers, we will see HMG's and Core Locust Grenades vs Breach Shoutguns and Remote Explosives. I think you are wrong. Med frames will always have an important place in the battlefield. They are Balance. They are versatility. Scouts are fast and have cloaks.But have a limit to how much HP they can have. Not everybody can play successfully with 450 HP OR LESS.Everything sounds fancy until you think of a full enemy proto squad with Prroto scanners on gallente Logis vs you.... Heavies will be Damage sponges and powerful offensive behemoths,but they are fitted with the WORST of all E-war stuff. They will never detect anything besides near Shooting un-dampened Med frames and other heavies, while every single other personknows where they are at all times,which is, by definition in an FPS, the ultimate disadvantage. MEd Frames will still be able to transform their suits to be the thing they need to be, from stealth ,to HP tanked. From the Minmatar Assault with High speed and DAmage modded Combat rifle, To the HP tanked Cal and Gal Heavies, To the useless Amarr Assault that loyalist will still use for the lulz,to the Zerg Storm Summoning Amarr logi to the Flawless Radar Gallente Logi; i doubt MEd frames will dissapear.... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
TYCHUS MAXWELL Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:25:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Assaults and Logis will be about as rare in 1.8 as a commando is in 1.7. I'm calling it now, DUST514 in 1.8 will be the equivalent of 'Supersize vs Super-Skinny', only instead of Supersized Mc Donalds meals and KFC Family Buckets for one vs Celery Sticks and Graham Crackers, we will see HMG's and Core Locust Grenades vs Breach Shoutguns and Remote Explosives. I think you are wrong. Med frames will always have an important place in the battlefield. They are Balance. They are versatility. Scouts are fast and have cloaks.But have a limit to how much HP they can have. Not everybody can play successfully with 450 HP OR LESS.Everything sounds fancy until you think of a full enemy proto squad with Prroto scanners on gallente Logis vs you.... Heavies will be Damage sponges and powerful offensive behemoths,but they are fitted with the WORST of all E-war stuff. They will never detect anything besides near Shooting un-dampened Med frames and other heavies, while every single other personknows where they are at all times,which is, by definition in an FPS, the ultimate disadvantage. MEd Frames will still be able to transform their suits to be the thing they need to be, from stealth ,to HP tanked. From the Minmatar Assault with High speed and DAmage modded Combat rifle, To the HP tanked Cal and Gal Assaults, To the useless Amarr Assault that loyalist will still use for the lulz,to the Zerg Storm Summoning Amarr logi to the Flawless Radar Gallente Logi; i doubt MEd frames will dissapear.... Oh no the proto logi that cost 80k+ isk just detected my 3k isk shotgun light dropsuit, woe is me imma die. Oh what's that? They lost 360 spinning and scanned in the wrong direction and are now on cooldown, dinner is served... Oh no I can't see the guys before they run to the objective I am covering with my heavy, oh wait I see one, dead...
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 640	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:27:00 - [36] - Quote I think initially sure, there will be an influx of whatever people think is going to get the best bonuses. People tend to chase whatever they feel will be the next FOTM. Give it some time and everything will balance itself out, people will see the need for a logi even if they are not as effective. Eventually people are going to get tired being slow as hell and weak as hell and will find their way back to the Assaults. And if 1.8 does launch in March we may even get another balance sweep before fanfest, who knows what will change.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6762	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:29:00 - [37] - Quote Yes, let's all ignore the assault bonuses and logi bonuses and pretend heavies and scouts will be the next flavor of the month. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 716	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:44:00 - [38] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: real logies will still be logies because we need them, there will be gunfighters that don't want to be slower than balls and the assault will actually give them an edge over logies, there will be alot more scouts because the ninja in us all will finally have a chance to come out. I can see heavies being a new abused fit though, no bonus to heavy weapons and heavy weapons are crap, we'll be seeing alot of tanked heavies with rail rifles and combat rifles. Although CCP logibro said that the rail rifle will be hit with the nerf bat in 1.8 and there will be other changes to the rifles and guns in general so maybe heavy weapons will actually be useful. So the ninja went in the closet, then the assault did too, now im mad, so I pull out my gun! You better come out or I cap some ***! 1! 2! 3!oh, this is nice South park! XD 1! I'm gonna shoot you both 2! I'm gonna cap some b** 3! closet door opens R. Kelly walks in Closet door closes Oh, this is nice. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
TYCHUS MAXWELL Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:47:00 - [39] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Yes, let's all ignore the assault bonuses and logi bonuses and pretend heavies and scouts will be the next flavor of the month. i pretty much ignore them right now, they aren't big game changer and won't be later, a cloak and passive resistance on a tanky suit (That's % reduction which means the more shielding and armor aka a heavy suit the more effective EHP heavies will have). Who cares about rate of fire if your mag dump doesn't kill them/you can't see them. Game theory has to be approached from the bigger picture not this, "Well I can think of one way to counter this, that is ineffective against many other things." I know adv/proto forge guns can wreck militia tanks, this doesn't make tanks balanced towards av. I know sniper rifles and CQC can wreck a rail rifle some of the time, this doesn't make rail rifles balanced. I know you can outrange a combat rifle with a rail rifle/laser rifle/sniper rifle, this doesn't make combat rifles balanced. Balance is only achieved when weapons and suits have trade offs that make them relatively effective, imbalance occurs when the pros outweigh the cons to a strategy. Imbalance is what creates FOTM, why? Because it's simply more effective then other options, which from a game perspective wastes time spent on under powered assets and makes for a much more shallow game for the players. Hell this whole game currently is a pointless meta game. You can easily burn holes in the wallets of proto spam with gun game and thinking. Everyone though tries to race to proto gear so that they can lose money... Oh you went 32/2? Half those suits were frontline... and you made how much isk after losing 200k+ in suits? Oh but you need proto gear to get districts to farm isk in PC! Yeah but if you didn't spam proto gear you would never need to district farm in the first place. This whole game is a catch 22 competitively.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 901	Posted - 2014.02.08 23:48:00 - [40] - Quote I've always mained scouts, anyways.

ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 719	Posted - 2014.02.09 00:12:00 - [41] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: So many people are going to don a scout suit and get torn the shreads and join the "I want more respecs" crowd. Scouts are getting a buff for the people already skilled into them. new people are going to find out it is hard-mode. And that the cloak will be underwhelming. 0(OP) \| 1(easy) \| 2(normal) \| 3(hard) \| 4(UP) Tanks are at 0 Assault/logi are at 2 DS/sentinel is at 3 Commando are 3.5 Scouts are 4 After 1.8 Tanks are at 1 (maybe) Assaults/Sentinels are at 2 Logis are 2.5 DS/Scouts/commandos are at 3 So to you I say scouts being hard mode is giving real scouts a break. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 454	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:12:00 - [42] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: real logies will still be logies because we need them, there will be gunfighters that don't want to be slower than balls and the assault will actually give them an edge over logies, there will be alot more scouts because the ninja in us all will finally have a chance to come out. I can see heavies being a new abused fit though, no bonus to heavy weapons and heavy weapons are crap, we'll be seeing alot of tanked heavies with rail rifles and combat rifles. Although CCP logibro said that the rail rifle will be hit with the nerf bat in 1.8 and there will be other changes to the rifles and guns in general so maybe heavy weapons will actually be useful. So the ninja went in the closet, then the assault did too, now im mad, so I pull out my gun! You better come out or I cap some *****! 1! 2! 3!oh, this is nice R kelly plays this game? huh...maybe I can get some of my friends on here...though they might stay away because they don't wanna get peed on. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 287	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:16:00 - [43] - Quote Komodo Jones wrote: NK Scout wrote: Komodo Jones wrote: real logies will still be logies because we need them, there will be gunfighters that don't want to be slower than balls and the assault will actually give them an edge over logies, there will be alot more scouts because the ninja in us all will finally have a chance to come out. I can see heavies being a new abused fit though, no bonus to heavy weapons and heavy weapons are crap, we'll be seeing alot of tanked heavies with rail rifles and combat rifles. Although CCP logibro said that the rail rifle will be hit with the nerf bat in 1.8 and there will be other changes to the rifles and guns in general so maybe heavy weapons will actually be useful. So the ninja went in the closet, then the assault did too, now im mad, so I pull out my gun! You better come out or I cap some ***! 1! 2! 3!oh, this is nice R kelly plays this game? huh...maybe I can get some of my friends on here...though they might stay away because they don't wanna get peed on. Lol yup 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race**
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 454	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:22:00 - [44] - Quote WAIT! I GOT IT! Amarr worships R Kelly, the color of the suits and the ships...he gave them all a golden shower! It all makes sense now... This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1091	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:17:00 - [45] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: So many people are going to don a scout suit and get torn the shreads and join the "I want more respecs" crowd. Scouts are getting a buff for the people already skilled into them. new people are going to find out it is hard-mode. And that the cloak will be underwhelming. 0(OP) \| 1(easy) \| 2(normal) \| 3(hard) \| 4(UP) Tanks are at 0 Assault/logi are at 2 DS/sentinel is at 3 Commando are 3.5 Scouts are 4 After 1.8 Tanks are at 1 (maybe) Assaults/Sentinels are at 2 Logis are 2.5 DS/Scouts/commandos are at 3 So to you I say scouts being hard mode is giving real scouts a break. Yes. You get it. Completely. Though I'd rank some of the other things differently, but you are completely correct about the scouts. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday morning)
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2824	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:36:00 - [46] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: So many people are going to don a scout suit and get torn the shreads and join the "I want more respecs" crowd. Scouts are getting a buff for the people already skilled into them. new people are going to find out it is hard-mode. And that the cloak will be underwhelming. 0(OP) \| 1(easy) \| 2(normal) \| 3(hard) \| 4(UP) Tanks are at 0 Assault/logi are at 2 DS/sentinel is at 3 Commando are 3.5 Scouts are 4 After 1.8 Tanks are at 1 (maybe) Assaults/Sentinels are at 2 Logis are 2.5 DS/Scouts/commandos are at 3 So to you I say scouts being hard mode is giving real scouts a break. Yes. You get it. Completely. Though I'd rank some of the other things differently, but you are completely correct about the scouts. I bet you this is gonna happen. Someone looks at the scout stats, thinks of it as a light assault specs into it in 1.8 Plays it like an assault (walking straight down hallways, always taking the most direct route etc etc) Gets murdered from trying to take on squads of 3+ people rages comes to the forums to complain It'll happen, I'm calling it right now. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 27	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:57:00 - [47] - Quote Psht, I'm just going to spec fully back into Minmatar scout anyway. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Ulme Mees Rautaleijona Top Men. 116	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:17:00 - [48] - Quote Oh yeah I would like to see alot of scouts on the battlefield, I do seriosly hope they will be the new FOTM so I can get them easy kills! Fear is a disease!
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1601	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:27:00 - [49] - Quote Bleeding Knight wrote: Source? A crystal ball hanging from a tinfoil hat. I hope that it does happen because at least there will be more than gal logi on the field. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1601	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:32:00 - [50] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: So many people are going to don a scout suit and get torn the shreads and join the "I want more respecs" crowd. Scouts are getting a buff for the people already skilled into them. new people are going to find out it is hard-mode. And that the cloak will be underwhelming. 0(OP) \| 1(easy) \| 2(normal) \| 3(hard) \| 4(UP) Tanks are at 0 Assault/logi are at 2 DS/sentinel is at 3 Commando are 3.5 Scouts are 4 After 1.8 Tanks are at 1 (maybe) Assaults/Sentinels are at 2 Logis are 2.5 DS/Scouts/commandos are at 3 So to you I say scouts being hard mode is giving real scouts a break. Yes. You get it. Completely. Though I'd rank some of the other things differently, but you are completely correct about the scouts. I bet you this is gonna happen. Someone looks at the scout stats, thinks of it as a light assault specs into it in 1.8 Plays it like an assault (walking straight down hallways, always taking the most direct route etc etc) Gets murdered from trying to take on squads of 3+ people rages comes to the forums to complain It'll happen, I'm calling it right now. Probably will because it seems that is how they play now, not much adapt or die more like complain and cry. Scouts aren't medium frames or they would be called medium so trying to use one as such is like racing a Lambo in Honda Civic. Play the suit's strengths. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson

ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 723	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:22:00 - [51] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Probably will because it seems that is how they play now, not much adapt or die more like complain and cry. Scouts aren't medium frames or they would be called medium so trying to use one as such is like racing a Lambo in Honda Civic. Play the suit's strengths. As a scout it's not always as simple as that (1.8 could hopefully change that) but you're right either way. Even real scouts will dabble in "Light Assault" fits at some point in there career but even then they still play as scouts. An influx of scouts could mean a lot of work for R O N 1 N lol. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 285	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:30:00 - [52] - Quote Just w8 and c NYAN will show what is the most overpowerd thing in the game and spam ambush with it. =ƒÿë War never changes
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 257	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:36:00 - [53] - Quote i must of missed the memo heavy weapons useless? tell that to all the proto suits who die to my templar and std hmg combo. im already seeing more and more heavyies. you can tell the new fat boys easyily. they dont move much and let you shot them in the face and barely dent your shield unless they are in a group. im sure heavyies will be FOTM right up till people get sick of calling in a lav every time they want to get anywhere. i do hope they ban light weapons from sentinal suits.
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 99	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:52:00 - [54] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Assaults and Logis will be about as rare in 1.8 as a commando is in 1.7. I'm calling it now, DUST514 in 1.8 will be the equivalent of 'Supersize vs Super-Skinny', only instead of Supersized Mc Donalds meals and KFC Family Buckets for one vs Celery Sticks and Graham Crackers, we will see HMG's and Core Locust Grenades vs Breach Shoutguns and Remote Explosives. that would be the most beautifull thing ever i trueely hope your premonition comes to pass if it did my dreams would come true ;-; so beautiful yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3525	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:54:00 - [55] - Quote Well I've seen a ton of commandos in 1.7 so I guess I'll see a boat load of assaults and logis Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command Patron saint of Commandos =ƒÿç
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 180	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:59:00 - [56] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Just w8 and c NYAN will show what is the most overpowerd thing in the game and spam ambush with it. =ƒÿë Nyan fielding squads of gal-scouts would make me cry. Considering the buffs to other dropsuits, the new stats seem fine - but I don't want it to get some kind of FoTM status. I think the Shinobi event awakened a lot of people's inner Scout. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
TcuBe3 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 403	Posted - 2014.04.18 03:37:00 - [57] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Eh, assault will prob still be most popular. Follows by logi, but it will be a lot closer in numbers 35% assault/med 20% logi 15% scout, 15% sentinel/heavy, 15% commando Couldn't be more wrong the game is now essentially heavy/scout 514.... CCP Fanboys remind me of the Heaven's Gate cult. "DON'T DRINK THE COOL AID PEOPLE!"
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 432	Posted - 2014.04.18 03:46:00 - [58] - Quote TcuBe3 wrote: Bones McGavins wrote: Eh, assault will prob still be most popular. Follows by logi, but it will be a lot closer in numbers 35% assault/med 20% logi 15% scout, 15% sentinel/heavy, 15% commando Couldn't be more wrong the game is now essentially heavy/scout 514.... ikr, lol and the idiot who said the cloak would be "underwhelming"...great call on that one, smh


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